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The Dick Cheney Countdown

When will Cheney resign?

  • On or before March 31, 2007

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • Between April Fools Day and New Years Eve 2007

    Votes: 3 5.5%

  • Between New Years Day 2008 and Jan 20, 2009

    Votes: 3 5.5%

  • Never

    Votes: 48 87.3%
  • Total voters
    55
steverino said:
When I read the headline I thought it would be a "countdown to his death" thread. I predict he dies of a heart attack this coming September, and resigns by Christmas.
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Congratulations, Steverino! You get the prize for the most creative prediction for the demise of the Cheney regency.
 
hgc said:
Congratulations, Steverino! You get the prize for the most creative prediction for the demise of the Cheney regency.
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Seconded. I had to read it twice to make sure I understood it.

Lurker
 
hgc said:
The first step to dethroning Cheney is Congressional subpoenas. Let's not hold our breath.
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What are you talking about? The first step?! The last time Congress sent him a subpoena, he replied that he would meet with them but would not be under oath and he insisted that there be no electronic recording devices in the room. It will take a helluva lot more than Congressional subpoenas.
 
Good luck to him. They don't have to even respond- he doesn't show up, he's in contempt of Congress- and that goes to trial. Of course, it requires a majority vote, and a US Attorney. Hey, didja notice they went and fired all the competent US Attorneys? Now, gee, I wonder why they did that? Any guesses?
 
Ladewig said:
What are you talking about? The first step?! The last time Congress sent him a subpoena, he replied that he would meet with them but would not be under oath and he insisted that there be no electronic recording devices in the room. It will take a helluva lot more than Congressional subpoenas.
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Yeah, I said that as a first step so that they can include his refusal in the bill of impeachment.
 
Schneibster said:
Good luck to him. They don't have to even respond- he doesn't show up, he's in contempt of Congress- and that goes to trial. Of course, it requires a majority vote, and a US Attorney. Hey, didja notice they went and fired all the competent US Attorneys? Now, gee, I wonder why they did that? Any guesses?
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The Justice Department nor any prosecutor has nothing to do with impeachment proceedings. It's a political process, not a criminal adjudication process. True the Republicans in the House in 1998 used Ken Starr as their principal accuser against Clinton, but it wasn't necessary.
 
I have a theory that happiness in one's job relates to the authority to responsibility ratio. People are unhappy when they have responsibility for events without authority to control events. Conversely lots of authority without responsibility is guaranteed happiness. No matter how you screw up somebody else gets the blame and when stuff goes right you can use your authority to step in and grab a share of the credit.

Cheney, has maneuvered himself into a job with an off the chart authority to responsibility ratio. His ideas have dominated American foreign policy for six years and Bush gets the blame. Why in the world would anybody leave a situation like this. You get to experiment to your hearts content with every foreign policy idea you've ever had. You can get people fired that you don't like and reports buried. You can get no-bid contracts for your crony companies and make a reasonable chunk of change in the process and in the end no mater how you screw up somebody else gets the blame. And somebody thinks that Cheney is going to quit this job?

I suppose Cheney might actually die and leave office that way, but resign, I'm a doubting it.
 
Crossbow said:
Cheney will not resign until they pry the VP nameplate from his cold, dead hands, or January 20, 2009.

Which ever comes first!.
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I'm sure thats the way you prefer, right?

Why would he resign? A year and a half left until his term is over...might as well ride the train out.
 
The best reason to resign would be so his replacement has time to establish a reputation before he runs for Pres.

So, Who would be his replacement, and how would he/she be chosen? With the dems holding the reins, Cheney has to stay put, doesn't he ?
 
casebro said:
The best reason to resign would be so his replacement has time to establish a reputation before he runs for Pres.

So, Who would be his replacement, and how would he/she be chosen? With the dems holding the reins, Cheney has to stay put, doesn't he ?
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I was going to bring up this very point.

First, I don't think that Cheney gives a hairy hoot about what happens to Republicans in 2008 election. If he did, he wouldn't be so furiously digging their mass grave with his continued lunacy.

As for the replacement, I've mused elsewhere that Rice is the obvious choice, but that wouldn't be for the purpose of setting up the successor, but rather to move Lieberman to State so that Jodi Rell (Gov of CT) can appoint a Republican Senator to that seat.

In any case, I would hope that the Democratic Congress, most likely the House, as Lieberman would be a reliable Republican vote, would hold the line until they get someone they want -- namely NOBODY. If Bush goes down to impeachment, he should not be replaced by a VP of his choosing. He should be replaced by Pelosi.
 
hgc said:
As for the replacement, I've mused elsewhere that Rice is the obvious choice, but that wouldn't be for the purpose of setting up the successor, but rather to move Lieberman to State so that Jodi Rell (Gov of CT) can appoint a Republican Senator to that seat.

In any case, I would hope that the Democratic Congress, most likely the House, as Lieberman would be a reliable Republican vote, would hold the line until they get someone they want -- namely NOBODY. If Bush goes down to impeachment, he should not be replaced by a VP of his choosing. He should be replaced by Pelosi.
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What we have here is political chess at its finest.
 
Hgc:

Do you honestly think there is a snowball's chance in hell that Bush will be impeached? Sorry, I don't see it. If you think he will, I think you are being influenced by reading far too many leftist websites. And I say that as a leftist myself.

Matter of fact, I am willing to put my $ where my mouth is and will give 10:1 on Bush NOT being impeached.

Lurker
 
Lurker said:
Hgc:

Do you honestly think there is a snowball's chance in hell that Bush will be impeached? Sorry, I don't see it. If you think he will, I think you are being influenced by reading far too many leftist websites. And I say that as a leftist myself.

Matter of fact, I am willing to put my $ where my mouth is and will give 10:1 on Bush NOT being impeached.

Lurker
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No, I don't think he will be impeached, and if so, then certainly not convicted in the Senate. But I do think it's worth talking about day-in and day-out to as many people as I can. I want it to become imaginable, at least. That's the first step.

If I had asked you in January, 1998 if there was a snowball's chance in Hell that Clinton would be impeached, what would you have said?

ETA: It would be worth it just to push Lieberman all the way out of the nest.
 
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