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Is troy a typical debunker

Is Aphelion really just Pdoherty?

He seems to be here day and night and starts a new thread every 5 minutes.

JAQ
 
Is Aphelion really just Pdoherty?

He seems to be here day and night and starts a new thread every 5 minutes.

JAQ

Do you just accuse all new posters of being pdoherty? I've started a few threads. I'm bored with the spinning in the current theads.

@Totovader, yes it is guilt by association. Just like we are accused of anti-semitism because there are holocaust deniers who are truthers.
 
@Totovader, yes it is guilt by association. Just like we are accused of anti-semitism because there are holocaust deniers who are truthers.

The difference being, JREF banned him, while people like the Loosers go out of their way to defend the Holocaust Deniers.

So, not quite the same, right?
 
@Totovader, yes it is guilt by association. Just like we are accused of anti-semitism because there are holocaust deniers who are truthers.

Oh, so then it's ok when you do it because some of us do it to you?

So it's guilt by association because of guilt by association using guilt by association...


:jaw:
 
Nobody is accusing all members of the Truth Movement of being anti-semitic, people are just expressing concern at the tolerance of members who are. Kudos was given to Dylan (and others) for pulling out of the Arizona conference. I think it's in the Truth Movement's best interest to make this kind of dissociation from Holocaust Deniers.
 
Do you just accuse all new posters of being pdoherty? I've started a few threads. I'm bored with the spinning in the current theads.

@Totovader, yes it is guilt by association. Just like we are accused of anti-semitism because there are holocaust deniers who are truthers.

Not every new poster, just every 5th.

If 'truthers' would disassociate themselves from holocaust deniers* and stop depending on anti-semitic websites and 'reporters' for their research, then perhaps the guilt would go away.

*And not just when it is pointed out by people from outside the 'truth' club.
 
Do you just accuse all new posters of being pdoherty? I've started a few threads. I'm bored with the spinning in the current theads.

Pdoh has had multiple socks here (docker, jessicarabbit, and a few others). They all followed a similar posting style (starting multiple threads and a high postcount/day).

Considering the number of posters that fit the above criteria who did turn out to be Pdoh, I don't consider the inquiry to be much of a stretch.
 
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@Totovader, yes it is guilt by association. Just like we are accused of anti-semitism because there are holocaust deniers who are truthers.
Argumentum ad hominem
This is a fallacy we studied before but it bears repeating, not least because it's perhaps the most frequently charged and least understood, in spite of its relative simplicity. ...
Tu Quoque—the person is said to not practice what he or she preaches ...
You say people should learn to live within their means, but you are in debt yourself and make no effort to get out of it.
This is an ad hominem tu quoque, since it draws to our attention an inconsistency in the argument: if the claim is true, then the claimant should either change his or her ways or admit that the claim doesn't have to apply to everyone after all. It has the form:
P1: A claims B;
P2: A practices not-B;
C: Therefore, B is inconsistent with A's actions.
...
Pointing out an inconsistency in someone's thinking does not show their position to be mistaken but it may show their advocacy of it to be hypocritical. If we change the form slightly, it becomes fallacious:
P1: A claims B;
P2: A practices not-B;
C: Therefore, B is false.​
That someone may be a hypocrite, of course, does not show their ideas to be false. The first form of tu quoque is fine but the latter is fallacious. In summary, then, the ad hominem fallacy brings irrelevancies to a discussion and distracts from the real point at issue.​
 
Pdoh has had multiple socks here (docker, jessicarabbit, and a few others). They all followed a similar posting style (starting multiple threads and a high postcount/day).

Considering the number of posters that fit the above criteria who did turn out to be Pdoh, I don't consider the inquiry to be much of a stretch.

FYI I think people like pdoherty are as big a hindrance to the truth movement as disinfo specialists like Nico and killclown. His accusation is baseless like most of the claims here.
 
Personally I think pdoherty, killklown and nico haupt (bless you!) are all working together.

OMG! It's a CONSPIRACY!!1111!!
 
Troy is the same guy that constantly calls into Alex Jones' show, right?

The saying, "his heart is in the right place" applies. He simply hasn't done the research, he's not skilled in debate- and is often unprepared to counter the tactics used by conspiracists, and often gets too emotional.

Jones often lets him on the show because he knows this, and he knows he can manipulate Troy to make it look like the scientific movement is a bunch of emotional cultists.
 
Troy is the same guy that constantly calls into Alex Jones' show, right?

The saying, "his heart is in the right place" applies. He simply hasn't done the research, he's not skilled in debate- and is often unprepared to counter the tactics used by conspiracists, and often gets too emotional.

Jones often lets him on the show because he knows this, and he knows he can manipulate Troy to make it look like the scientific movement is a bunch of emotional cultists.


Troy is some redneck who rang John Connor and without entering into any kind of debate starting making violent threats against John. You are condoning that behaviour are you?
 

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