ThePentaCON releases trailer

[Lyte Trip]

You've already indicated that physical evidence wouldn't be good enough, other eyewitnesses are waved off at the flick of your wrist, and while claiming there are no contradictions, there are: according to you, your eyewitnesses do not support the scientific explanation.

There is ZERO testimony that directly contradicts the claims of the witnesses we will present.

If you claim otherwise then please provide the testimony so it can be compared side by side with what we will present.

 

[boloboffin]

 

[Totovader]

There is ZERO testimony that directly contradicts the claims of the witnesses we will present.

If you claim otherwise then please provide the testimony so it can be compared side by side with what we will present.

This is not an answer to my question- and it seems as if you're trying to be careful with your wording.

Since I have no idea what your witnesses said- only that they place the plane in a position contradictory to the known evidence- it's fairly easy to conclude that you are not being honest at all.

 

[chippy]

There is ZERO testimony that directly contradicts the claims of the witnesses we will present.

If you claim otherwise then please provide the testimony so it can be compared side by side with what we will present.

Weren't there people who claimed that the plane actually hit the light poles? That would directly contradict your flight path.

 

[~enigma~]

Lyte Trip,

Are you going to answer?

And how were they fooled? Why is it you are the only one in the world able to figure this out? Do you know that fact alone proves your claim false.

 

[Lyte Trip]

This is not an answer to my question- and it seems as if you're trying to be careful with your wording.

Since I have no idea what your witnesses said- only that they place the plane in a position contradictory to the known evidence- it's fairly easy to conclude that you are not being honest at all.

Now that is what we skeptics like to call a........

LEAP OF LOGIC!









Really brah......wait for the testimony.

Your communication methods are seriously textbook and predictably BORING!

*yawn*

 

[Pardalis]

I suggest this thread be saved in the JREF memory banks for posterity, as the perfect example of the mind of a self-deluded true believer, so that psychologists around the world could study this for generations to come.

 

[Totovader]

So Lyte- you claim there is no contradiction, but then there is- and then there isn't...

Is this because you're afraid of what your witnesses will say when you release your video? Will they be highly vocal in rejecting your characterizations of their statements?

Furthermore, your claim that:

Physical evidence is only > eyewitness testimony when the physical evidence wasn't staged or provided by the perpetrator.

Is perhaps more telling than you're willing to admit. Using that same logic- I'd be interested in hearing your formula for when there is no physical evidence to support the testimony.

And- using your logic, we shouldn't believe you, because it's likely that your evidence was planted- and we should go with "our" eyewitnesses...

 

[Lyte Trip]

Lyte Trip,

Are you going to answer?

They were fooled by a perfectly timed sleight of had illusion and because their brains were ready to accept the fact that a plane would hit the building as a result of what just happened in new york.


I was able to figure this out because I was the only one with enough dogged diligence to buy a plane ticket, CALL the witnesses, obtain approval from the Pentagon and Navy to film, knock on doors, ask the questions, film the answers, and come home with footage to present to the world.

 

[chippy]

Her commute to the airport took her south on Route 110, in front of the parking lots of the Pentagon. As she approached the parking lots, she saw a low-flying jetliner strike the top of nearby telephone poles. She then heard the plane power up and plunge into the Pentagon.

-Kat Gaines, from the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce website

Source: http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/witnesses/sgydk.html

"There was a huge screaming noise and I got out of the car as the plane came over. Everybody was running away in different directions. It was tilting its wings up and down like it was trying to balance. It hit some lampposts on the way in."

-Afework Hagos, from The Guardian

Source: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

"I am sorry to rain on your parade, but I saw the plane hit the building. It did not hit the ground first.... It did not hit the roof first... It hit dead center on the side... I was close enough (about 100 feet or so) that I could see the "American Airlines" logo on the tail as it headed towards the building... The plane looked like it was coming in about where you have the "MAX APPROACH" on that picture... I was at about where the "E" in "ANGLE OF CAMERA" is written when the plane hit... It was not completely level, but it was not going straight down, kind of like it was landing with no gear down... It knocked over a few light poles in its way..."

-Steve Riskus, in an e-mail interview with humanunderground.com

Source: http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/F77penta13.html

 

[Totovader]

Now that is what we skeptics like to call a........

LEAP OF LOGIC!









Really brah......wait for the testimony.

Your communication methods are seriously textbook and predictably BORING!

*yawn*

If you're trying to claim that my statement was not logical- you're going to need to do more than claim it's a "leap of logic"... whatever that is.

Please, answer my question- brah... There is no reason to continue to avoid it (no reason besides the obvious, that is).

 

[chippy]

They were fooled by a perfectly timed sleight of had illusion and because their brains were ready to accept the fact that a plane would hit the building as a result of what just happened in new york.


I was able to figure this out because I was the only one with enough dogged diligence to buy a plane ticket, CALL the witnesses, obtain approval from the Pentagon and Navy to film, knock on doors, ask the questions, film the answers, and come home with footage to present to the world.

How do you plan on presenting it to "the world"?

Your communication methods are seriously textbook and predictably BORING!

So boring that you're spending Friday night replying to these responses?

 

[Lyte Trip]

So Lyte- you claim there is no contradiction, but then there is- and then there isn't...

Is this because you're afraid of what your witnesses will say when you release your video? Will they be highly vocal in rejecting your characterizations of their statements?

Oh hell no! They will be the very first to speak out against us if we misrepresent their claims. I am not worried about that in the least.

Furthermore, your claim that:



Is perhaps more telling than you're willing to admit. Using that same logic- I'd be interested in hearing your formula for when there is no physical evidence to support the testimony.

And- using your logic, we shouldn't believe you, because it's likely that your evidence was planted- and we should go with "our" eyewitnesses...

You've lost me.

The testimony is rock solid.

 

[Totovader]

They were fooled by a perfectly timed sleight of had illusion and because their brains were ready to accept the fact that a plane would hit the building as a result of what just happened in new york.


I was able to figure this out because I was the only one with enough dogged diligence to buy a plane ticket, CALL the witnesses, obtain approval from the Pentagon and Navy to film, knock on doors, ask the questions, film the answers, and come home with footage to present to the world.

Um.

The Pentagon and Navy gave you permission to film?

Also- your characterization of the events indicates that you did no investigation- you simply interviewed people (and people whom you preselected to confirm your silly theory).

Could this perhaps be the answer to my question? You did no real investigation?

The shock...

The horror...

 

[apathoid]

They were fooled by a perfectly timed sleight of had illusion and because their brains were ready to accept the fact that a plane would hit the building as a result of what just happened in new york.

So when the plane pulled up sharply and flew away at max thrust, the witnesses ____________{fill in the blank for me Lyte}

 

[chippy]

You've lost me.

The testimony is rock solid.

Why, because they're adamant about it?

Consider this, Lyte. You are adamant about your story. We are adamant about ours. We can't both be right, right? Just because someone is very passionate and willing to go to great lengths to prove something doesn't necessarily mean that they are correct about it, does it?

Also, why is it that the testimony of 4 people is what really counts, yet you advertise the testimony of 13 people in your video? Are you trying to be misleading?

 

[Totovader]

Oh hell no! They will be the very first to speak out against us if we misrepresent their claims. I am not worried about that in the least.



You've lost me.

The testimony is rock solid.

You understand that upon releasing this film- several people will be interested in REALLY hearing their version of the events, instead of your version of their comments?

The first thing to do will be to exclude you as a puppeteer. So if you're lying- you're going to come back here and walk the gauntlet? I doubt it.

The testimony is not supported by any physical evidence, correct? In fact- it contradicts physical evidence- and many other witnesses.

Not that difficult of a question, really- Lyte. What trouble could you possibly be having but being unable to answer to a poor investigation, knowing that any attempt to answer will immediately expose you as a fraud and a liar?

 

[Lyte Trip]

Um.

The Pentagon and Navy gave you permission to film?

Yes they did and it was not easy to obtain. The citgo is a military exchange and will only sell gas to govt employees. It is HIGHLY secured and even mainstream media is detained if they try to film there.

Also- your characterization of the events indicates that you did no investigation- you simply interviewed people (and people whom you preselected to confirm your silly theory).

Could this perhaps be the answer to my question? You did no real investigation?

The shock...

The horror...

Huh?

No.

We called EVERYONE on the list that we could find numbers for.

We booked as many interviews as possible.

And we also went door to door in the neighborhood and found many previously unpublished (untainted) witnesses of the plane.

If that isn't considered a true investigation then I don't know what is.

 

[chippy]

Say Totovader...whereabouts in Minneapolis are you? I live just off the University of Minnesota campus.

 

[Coritani]

Lyte,

Why are you ignoring the mountain of physical evidence that supports the official story?

Why are you taking eyewitness testimony over physical evidence? Physical evidence > eyewitness testimony.

If the physical evidence was falsified or planted, please provide evidence of this. If not, answer the two questions above.