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My first LC Forum post. Will it be the last?

Firestone said:
Congratulations ref! :)

Sad to see that no one there corrects 28th Kingdom on is silly statement about insurance. Maybe even Dylan thinks it's true! :confused:
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Thanks FS :)

28th statement about the insurance was very strange. Nobody else even commented on that. Maybe they still believe it. I'm not there to correct them anymore.
 
I can see how that conversation would go now.

LTW: "Next on the line, we have John from Bridgeport, Connecticut. John, you're on with Jason Bermas."

Me: "Hi Jason, I'm calling on behalf of the James Randi Educational Foundation, and I would like to know why it is that you ban any dissenting voices on your forum."

LTW: "Next on the line, we have Alex from Austin, Texas. Alex, you're on the air with Jason Bermas."
 
Hey,

Someone called Cassandra just demanded answers to the insurance claim. Let's see how this developes ;)
 
the fraud king wants to debate fiction?

Is Dylan as dumb as his followers? Or is he smart keeping up the fraud to make money?

Which is it? (when will anyone know?)
 
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juryjone said:
from look-up:

Quote:
the definition of "eduction" differs from person to person...
Yes, I suppose it does...
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Actually, the entire basis for language is the fact that definitions of words don't differ from person to person. If you don't believe me, all you have to do is go down to a restaurant in Australia and ask for a "napkin" from your waitress. You'll see firsthand the sort of misunderstanding and confusion that comes about when definitions differ from person to person.
 
ref said:
Hey,

Someone called Cassandra just demanded answers to the insurance claim. Let's see how this developes ;)
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What do you think... by how many minutes will Cassandra outlast you?:rolleyes:
 
Fraud king defines himself!

It is no secret that Loose Change was started as fiction - Dylan said so!

Fact Dylan wrote a fictional film Loose Change.

Fact Dylan made money off of LC film. LOTS of money!

Fact Dylan has a habit of debunking himself in an ironic manner..

Right in front of his lemming followers at LCF, Dylan defines himself!

First he is has a thing for Gravy as seen on his avatar. He loves Gravy or something. Proof is his avatar.

Next Dylan posts the definition of Dylan's motives and makeup

Characteristics of pseudo-skeptics

* The tendency to deny, rather than doubt
* Double standards in the application of criticism
* The making of judgements without full inquiry
* Tendency to discredit, rather than investigate
* Use of ridicule or ad hominem attacks
* Presenting insufficient evidence or proof
* Pejorative labelling of proponents as 'promoters', 'pseudoscientists' or practitioners of 'pathological science.'
* Assuming criticism requires no burden of proof
* Making unsubstantiated counter-claims
* Counter-claims based on plausibility rather than empirical evidence
* Suggesting that unconvincing evidence is grounds for dismissing it
* Tendency to dismiss all evidence
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Right in front of his LCF loyalist, he tells them what he is. Whether he means labeling or libeling, does not matter he has defined himself to a T; and his spelling is usually much better than mine. Our pseudo-intellectual could us a trip to the wizard.
 
I doubt seriously that Dylan, in his heart of hearts, believes his own nonsense anymore. He simply has too much invested in the whole Twoof thing to admit that, though, so he's going to try to milk a few more months of "leader of the pack" status out of it, make a few more bucks, and disappear quietly into the sunset.
 
jhunter1163 said:
I doubt seriously that Dylan, in his heart of hearts, believes his own nonsense anymore. He simply has too much invested in the whole Twoof thing to admit that, though, so he's going to try to milk a few more months of "leader of the pack" status out of it, make a few more bucks, and disappear quietly into the sunset.
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Broadly agree.
I'd give even money that LC:FC is a non-show (2007 that is, small bets accepted ;) )
 
astorstraussenheim @ LC

"One more note to JREF

I have been a part of this internet community for a over a year now.I have pretty much read every post since i started on the old forum. After examining many hundreds of your posts over there, i can sincerely say that the people on this forum have a hard-on for humanity.It isn't hard to see this. The people here have a genuine love for everyone on the planet. JREF posters however, are not the same. I have not yet figured out if you people are totally heartless, because i'am still trying to get past why so many people over there keep re-hashing Simpsons, and South Park quotes.
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WE are heartless? They are human? Please. Where is your respect for people, I ask.
 
ref said:
WE are heartless? They are human? Please. Where is your respect for people, I ask.
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while i was posting at LC, i was ridiculed constantly by those that were convinced that the US government orchestrated the 9/11 attacks. i would continually respond in a friendly manner, as i have an honest, genuine concern for the well being of those that may become sucked into this nonsense.

i was nice and i was respectful to the regulars, despite the fact that they bombarded me with insults. i continually replied calmly and rationally, you know, because i'm some "heartless jref".

to some extent, i'm angered that i've wasted so much time trying to help those that are willfully ignorant. i'm angered that the very folk i spent time attempting to help would ignore my track record, label me as "heartless", and then ban me.

to a greater extent, i'm depressed by the entire "truth movement". it's rather depressing that folk can become attatched to some idea to such an extent that they simply ignore evidence. it's depressing that these sorts can somehow attract new members, perpetually offering the same, debunked lies. it's depressing that a few people i personally know have fallen for this garbage, and that even when i've presented them with irrefutable proof that their evidence is bunk, they've not abandonded their positions. it's depressing to lose respect for friends that i once respected.

heartless? no. disheartened? yes.
 
astorstraussenheim @ LC

"One more note to JREF

I have been a part of this internet community for a over a year now.I have pretty much read every post since i started on the old forum. After examining many hundreds of your posts over there, i can sincerely say that the people on this forum have a hard-on for humanity.It isn't hard to see this. The people here have a genuine love for everyone on the planet. JREF posters however, are not the same. I have not yet figured out if you people are totally heartless, because i'am still trying to get past why so many people over there keep re-hashing Simpsons, and South Park quotes.
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But then again it is not us heartless JREFERs that are accusing innocent people of planning, executing and covering up mass murder of 3000 of their fellow countrymen without a shred of evidence.

Only a heartless soul would make up stories about fake phone calls, fake evidence, fake DNA, fake plane crashes, fake black boxes, fake damage to lamp posts. Only a truly heartless soul would stalk witnesses, call witnesses liars and laugh at testimony that decimates their silly theories. Such individuals would mock the final words of the victims; they would laugh in the face of such a painful loss the families have had to endure. They would treat this most horrific event as though it was stage managed just for themselves.
True heartless individuals would promote the insanity of holograms, no planes, space beams, and secret death squads. They accuse those who defend the nation of being traitors and standing down. They would banish all the planets structural engineers to hell for not agreeing with them
Only a truly heartless individual would take all the bitter and twisted distortions there are about this dreadful event and squeeze it into a DVD and profit from it.

And only truly heartless individuals would drool over and worship such individuals, call them great and laugh as the lies that they generate spread further and further.
 
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' WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH THIS? GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES PLEASE.'
(Some guy on JREFers)

'Don't ruin their fun.'
-Dylan


Dylan said it himself he works 'day and night night and day' on the LC:FC script.
Hardly a life.
 
Dylan is also asking people to call in to the radio show....saying we're scared.
Is it a premium rate number or what?
Because that has to be the only reason why he would want us to call in...

I can hear the convosation now...



'Hello you're on LTW radio'

'err Hi, I have some problems with Loose Change...'

'MY FILM, NOT YOURS!'

*dial tone*
 
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jhunter1163 said:
I doubt seriously that Dylan, in his heart of hearts, believes his own nonsense anymore. He simply has too much invested in the whole Twoof thing to admit that, though, so he's going to try to milk a few more months of "leader of the pack" status out of it, make a few more bucks, and disappear quietly into the sunset.
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I think if he genuinely believed that the world really does work the way it would have to work for his version of 9/11 to be correct, he would be living in 24 hour-a-day, pants-crapping terror - constantly looking over his shoulder, assuming every cab driver, waitress, paperboy, etc. was a potential NWO assassin on a mission to silence him.
 
The people here have a genuine love for everyone on the planet.
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does that mean they have a genuine love for us JREFers? or are we all on a different planet?

and if we are on a different planet, how does that fit in with the moon landing hoax?
 
Dylan's too caught up in his own BS to actually admit he's wrong. He's showing signs of weakness, like during the Hardfire debate. It became solely obvious to me that he's too deep in when he said "nothing" to the 'what would falsify your beliefs' question posed by our own Ronald. Why did he say nothing? Because anything he says we could probably produce and he would either have to accept it, give up etc, or deny that it is counter evidence.

Other things to think - all his mates are CT'ers - does we want to lose all his mates? no.
 
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