We Scored One For The Skeptics!

[Z]

Good, you seem to have got the message.

So, bringing this back on-topic: have you gotten the message that no one here censored, or caused to be censored, any video? Have you gotten the message that showing this video out of context might have led to legal problems for the station, and would be irresponsible?

Have you yet gotten the message that Loose Change is a simple propaganda piece, relying on the ignorance and laziness of its viewers to survive?

If you have, it's a good sign. If not... I guess you never will.

 

[Arus808]

I still want to see where in all of this, how we censored anything; that is as if we can control what Irish TV decides to broadcast.

 

[T.A.M.]

TC:

When Merc releases his documentary, I know exactly what to say, and that is...

"What a crock of shaite!"

Their documentary will prove NOTHING, will be watched by NOONE, and will go NOWHERE.

As for the FDR data,

Let us apply Occam...Of the following, which is the simplest explanation, requiring the least amount of assumptions or additional variables:

(1) Data was corrupted due to damage sustained by FDR on aircraft impact.
(2) Data, within the limits of possible error, could be misinterpreted in keeping with the finds of "Pilots for Truth"
(3) Data, planted by the evil PNAC Cabal to cover themselves, actually proves them guilty...drat, stupid, stupid PNAC.

My god man, are you THAT FU%KING STUPID? Really are your seriously that dumb? Are the rest of your fellow truthers really that moronic?

TAM

 

[Anti-sophist]

I agree.

But if AA77 didn't hit the Pentagon (as confirmed through it's fdr data) then how?

The FDR data does not confirm this in any way shape or form and is, in fact, completely consistent with the official story. I'm sorry to break this news to you and I will be happy to take this particular to it's very own thread and thrash you about repeatedly on it.

Before you open your mouth too wide, realize I already have posts, pictures, graphs, and spreadsheets to debunk virtually everything that has ever been uttered by pilotsfor911truth.org, UnderTow, and JDX.

Unless you can bring something new to the table, I advise you use the search feature at the top before continuing this any farther.

Bring your argument to the group of pilots who obtained the data and did all the work on it. I dare you!!!!!

First of all there was not "group" of pilots. There was one. Second of all, pilots don't analyze FDR data. Engineers do. You happen to be talking to one. Third, and most importantly, I have already done this and debunked every single FDR myth there is.

As I said, feel free to take your claims and your evidence to its own thread and we can deal with this issue. If all you are going to do is parrot JDX and his hack organization, use the search feature at the top and you will find the answers you seek.

 

[~enigma~]

Besides the fact that "Pilots for 9/11 Truth" are only pretending to be pilots.

I thought their real name was PSYCHOTICS FOR 9/11 TRUTH

 

[The Doc]

Lol is Pdhorety claiming to all his LC pal's that he tricked all of us by saying he wasn't a truther anymore? Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't we the ones who seriously doubted him and chose not to forgive him regardless of his opinion?

What makes me sick about this guy is the simple fact that he's turned the deaths of innocent people into "Me vs the JREF'ers". You need help Pdoh. And you need it fast.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Semantics....."predominantly" Saudi's.........

"19" vs. "15" is not semantics, you dolt...

Like the ones who are still alive or why the passengers of UA93 all only mention 3 hijackers.......

This has already been discussed. Your information is outdated, much like your way of thinking.

 

[Brainache]

So when the free marketplace of ideas opens for business on Monday can I put in a bid for pi to be equal to three? I'm sick of all those pesky numbers after the decimal point.

I'd also like to submit that Relativity is too confusing so the famous equation should be ammended to read: E=MC Hammer.(You Can't Touch This).

Somehow I get the feeling that the marketplace of ideas may be resistant to my obviously sensible suggestions and that just proves that all you JREFers are Nazis.

 

[boloboffin]

I'd also like to submit that Relativity is too confusing so the famous equation should be ammended to read: E=MC Hammer.(You Can't Touch This).

Actually, after reading a brutal flaying of a woo's posting, I think that should be MC TAMmer, as in: "TAMmer, please don't hurt them."

 

[Loss Leader]

But. again we truthers don't have anything to loose getting information out there.

The word "But" is not a sentence. "Lose" has been misspelled.

Also, the dumbass official conspiracy theory.

This is a sentence fragment. It makes no sense.

You guys, don't seem to have any shame.

There should not be a comma in this sentence.

 

[TC329]

So the government planted the FDR in the oentagon in order for it to disprove that the plane it came from hit the pentagon? Have you taken your anti-psych meds today?

The data is what it is. It shows what it shows. Instead of handing out insults try downloading the .csv file and see if you can figure it out yourself. Course I guess insults are alot easier...........

 

[Pardalis]

The data is what it is. It shows what it shows. Instead of handing out insults try downloading the .csv file and see if you can figure it out yourself. Course I guess insults are alot easier...........

Why don't you try and answer the logical problem Enigma has confronted you with?

 

[Pardalis]

Or maybe you could answer Boloffin's logical dilemma?

How do you believe that the government planted a FDR at their fake Flight 77 crash scene that proves beyond a doubt that Flight 77 DIDN'T hit the Pentagon?

 

[TC329]

How do you explain the remains of the passengers found in the Pentagon rubble?

There's no way of telling which is the horribly burned remains of a Pentagon employee and which are the horribly burned remains of a passenger. Does seem odd that a human body could withstand more than the plane could though, doesn't it? I mean the Shanksville plane also shattered into thousands of pieces and left no real visibly identifiable parts of an airplane other than 3 or 4 things. Same at the Pentagon. The difference being only 8% of UA93's remains could be recovered and 100% of AA77's.

That doesn't even strike you as slightly odd?

 

[Pardalis]

There's no way of telling which is the horribly burned remains of a Pentagon employee and which are the horribly burned remains of a passenger

Have you ever done DNA analysis on human remains before?

 

[TC329]

John DOH! already had two people qualified in FDR data analysis tell him why his assessment is flawed, but facts have never interested him a great deal.

But when the data he has presented, which you claim others have told him is flawed, is backed up by multiple highly credible witnesses (who's character you can't and probably won't dare to attack) what are you going to say?

 

[kookbreaker]

There's no way of telling which is the horribly burned remains of a Pentagon employee and which are the horribly burned remains of a passenger.

That was an incredibly ignorant statement. I'm sorry, but are you aware of certain advances in forensic technology in the past few decades?

 

[kookbreaker]

But when the data he has presented, which you claim others have told him is flawed, is backed up by multiple highly credible witnesses (who's character you can't and probably won't dare to attack) what are you going to say?

I for one do not know what I will say then, but right now I will say the following:

Stop overselling your game.

We've heard this 'whaddya gonna do when 'x' comes out' before. All I will say to that is:

"Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat!"

 

[TC329]

Or maybe you could answer Boloffin's logical dilemma?

I don't believe the government planted it there. I believe it's the data from AA77 which didn't crash and it was stopped at 1 second before the time it is alleged to have crashed.

 

[TC329]

Have you ever done DNA analysis on human remains before?

You asked me to explain the remains of passengers from the Pentagon. I stated you cannot tell by looking at the pics who is a passenger and who is not. Therefor you cannot say beyond all shadow of a doubt that any of the passengers died in a violent airplane crash at the Pentagon.

They made the same claim that they identified 100% of UA93 at a special facility in VA. Yet on 9/11/6 I got a copy of the Tribune Democrat at the UA93 memorial and in it Wally Miller states he still retains the remains. 3 caskets full of unidentifiable remians. 3 caskets.....about 8% of the passengers.