So the professor should be held accountable for violations of the blasphemy law, and the Marine should be held responsible for assault, right?
If a professor of mine wasted 15 minutes of my time acting like a retarded child instead of educating me I'd knock him out myself.
I don't see how the blasphemy law could be enforceable in any meaningful way given the ambiguity of the story. Is it a state or private university? What was the topic of class? What is the context that is left out?Originally Posted by Huntster
So the professor should be held accountable for violations of the blasphemy law, and the Marine should be held responsible for assault, right?
The marine's actions, however, are clearly assault.
Example:
A recent military combat veteran, after his discharge from the Marines, decided to go to college. One of his classes was in Political Science. The day he showed up and sat down in class, the professor got up and declared he was an atheist...he then shouted: "God if you are real, then you have 15 minutes to knock me off this podium."
He then proceeded to denying, cursing, and contumeliously reproaching God, his creation, final judging of the world, cursing and contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, cursing and contumeliously reproaching and exposing to contempt and ridicule the holy word of God contained in the Holy Scriptures for 14 minutes. At this time, the Marine got up, walked up to the professor, and cold-cocked him, knocking him out and lying flat on the floor. After a minute or two, the professor woke up, got up , and ask the Marine what in the world he thought he was doing. The Marine calmly stated, "God was busy, so He sent me."
Now I suppose you'd demand the arrest and criminal prosecution of the Marine?
I don't see how the blasphemy law could be enforceable in any meaningful way given the ambiguity of the story."....
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....the professor got up and declared he was an atheist...he then shouted: "God if you are real, then you have 15 minutes to knock me off this podium."
He then proceeded to denying, cursing, and contumeliously reproaching God, his creation, final judging of the world, cursing and contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, cursing and contumeliously reproaching and exposing to contempt and ridicule the holy word of God contained in the Holy Scriptures for 14 minutes.....
So the professor should be held accountable for violations of the blasphemy law, and the Marine should be held responsible for assault, right?
It's the religious meddling in politics that resulted in that Massachusetts law?
without knowing more about the class and the subject "professional misconduct" isn't a viable logical leap to make given this story. but within the context of the story, I don't know if it is professional misconduct at all and neither do you. is it rude? yea. Is it misconduct? depends on more context we are not given.
No, and yes. The blasphemy law is unconstitutional and therefore unenforceable......Originally Posted by Huntster
So the professor should be held accountable for violations of the blasphemy law, and the Marine should be held responsible for assault, right?
Erm, yes?Originally Posted by Huntster
It's the religious meddling in politics that resulted in that Massachusetts law?
Are you familiar with the history of Massachusetts?
"Religion meddling in politics" is about the best description I can come up with for the first 150 years of MA history....
CRIMES AGAINST CHASTITY, MORALITY, DECENCY AND GOOD ORDER
So, back to my original question (remarkable you and I are able to possibly do this, fowl):...........
......you "demand the arrest and criminal prosecution of the Marine", and the professor?...............................
"Ambiguous":
"Ambiguous"?:
Let me put it to you this way.
I cannot imagine a set of circumstances outside of a scripted theatrical performance where such behavior would not constitute "professional misconduct." Even if the professor was carrying out a psychological experiment, it would constitute experimentation on subjects without their informed consent (since obviously the Marine didn't now what was going on), and therefore misconduct.
I have no problem making that particular logical leap.
......As for ambiguous, yes lacking clear details is ambiguous in the context of your little story.
Whoever wilfully blasphemes the holy name of God by denying, cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, his creation, government or final judging of the world, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, or by cursing or contumeliously reproaching or exposing to contempt and ridicule, the holy word of God contained in the holy scriptures shall be punished by imprisonment in jail for not more than one year or by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars, and may also be bound to good behavior.
A recent military combat veteran, after his discharge from the Marines, decided to go to college. One of his classes was in Political Science. The day he showed up and sat down in class, the professor got up and declared he was an atheist...he then shouted: "God if you are real, then you have 15 minutes to knock me off this podium."
He then proceeded to denying, cursing, and contumeliously reproaching God, his creation, final judging of the world, cursing and contumeliously reproaching Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost, cursing and contumeliously reproaching and exposing to contempt and ridicule the holy word of God contained in the Holy Scriptures for 14 minutes. At this time, the Marine got up, walked up to the professor, and cold-cocked him, knocking him out and lying flat on the floor. After a minute or two, the professor woke up, got up , and ask the Marine what in the world he thought he was doing. The Marine calmly stated, "God was busy, so He sent me."
Says who?
however nothing the professor has done is illegal, bad actions or not, in that story.
The Constitution......Originally Posted by Huntster
Says who?
Was it the "reliegion meddling in politics", or was it vice versa?
Perhaps "a Marine" long ago punched out a foolish "professor" which prompted lawmakers to pass laws which were an attempt to protect a bunch of fools on both sides from each other?
Yet I have clearly stated which points were left out in your story. Are you just going to repost your same comments over and over with added insults, or do you have anything new to add?....Still "ambiguous"?
.... which is why the grounds for rescintion of tenure would be "incompetance," and not "incompentance and moral turpitude." I'm not sure where you got the idea that only illegal actions can be grounds for removal of a professor from a tenured position, but that's far from the truth. As a simple example, failure to maintain professional accreditation/licensure through continuing education can be "incompetence" and grounds for removal of tenure. It's not illegal for a professor to stop reading the journals, but it can cost her her job.
The professors words and acts were worded with the exact same words used to describe the violations made illegal under the Massachussets law, which is the subject of this thread.
Still ambiguous?
Got a reference?