Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

[CatherineFearnley]

The link to the famous "Retreat"

http://groups.msn.com/306355ti7igqi..._Message=119&LastModified=4675527396404386002

its says nothing really other than a load of old waffle designed to impress anyone gullible enough to be impressed by such blarney. It is well know he is residing in a Bournemouth suburb---heaven help his neighbours--what must they think when they see the tea-pot cosy clad one sneak out of his "Retreat cum Cathedral"


As we have trie d numerous times via the Internet with addresses unconnected to ourselves and snail mails, to get a straight answer, it is all Pie in the sky.

I invite anyone of you here on this board to put a simple question to him via his message boards or by writing a letter to his address---please contact me privately----to get a straight answer about his


CHURCH SERVICES AND MINISTRY

YOU SUSPECT A VAMPIRE IN THE NEIGHBOURHOOD AND NEED HELP

THAT YOU NEED TO COME AND STAY WITH HIM FOR A RETREAT


If any one of you gets an answer, let alone a straight answer, then you will be the first!


barbara

 

[Myth Buster]

Combat 18 and the Gomeche connection

Nothing what we have posted is FALSE, MALICIOUS OR THREATENING. Catherine

Just about everything you post falls under one or more of those categories.

 

[Myth Buster]

Combat 18 and the Gomeche connection

He did post all our names, addresses, and phone numbers on the infamous Combat 18 message boards. It's no wonder that so many people in the world hate his guts. Catherine

How would Sean Manchester have known your private telephone numbers and addresses? You were provided with his by Farrant and we all know what you did with them, don't we? It is delusional to believe that "many people in the world hate his guts." Radio and television programmes have admitted that his popularity boosts their ratings whenever he appears or contributes. His books sell exceptionally well, and he is frequently a specially invited guest at all manner of functions. This is not what happens to someone hated by all and sundry.

Grampian Police possess material evidence that Catherine and Barbara conspired with a man called Gomeche, then a moderator for Combat 18, to upload onto that violent website Sean Manchester's name and full private address together with stolen images of him and incitements of extreme hatred against him.

This evidence largely takes the form of email messages between the two females and Gomeche. It would have all come out in court had Gomeche not been sectioned under the Mental Health Act just days before his trial.

Gomeche conspired to frame Sean Manchester and this has been established beyond any reasonable doubt. The police accept that Gomeche with his computer skills attempted to pose as Manchester on the net on some occasions. He had also done this with others he disliked after they had been brought to his attention. Manchester was brought to Gomeche's attention by Farrant.

Farrant, Barbara and Catherine conspired with Ian Keith Gomeche (age 55) to disseminate calumny and to incite hatred against Sean Manchester on the internet for over thirteen months. Gomeche needed no encouragement where harassment and hatred are involved, as countless other victims already know to their cost. His attacks on innocent people via the internet has lasted years.

It came to an end because, since 29 July 2005, Gomeche was placed in custody. Held initially at HMP Craiginches, Aberdeen, for what is believed to be a breach of conditions relating to his appearance in court, this was a chance for the Procurator Fiscal's office to make strategic determinations about how to proceed with a number of serious cases, finally presented to them at the end of the first week of August 2005, supported by a mass of evidence gathered from the seizure of his computers in the previous year. The complexity and size of the investigation that has been mounted can be gauged by the fact that one case submitted is reported to have over 250,000 emails as supporting evidence!

This fortuitous custody was used as an ideal opportunity to have Gomeche's mental state professionally examined, in order to either finally give him the help and medication he clearly needs or alternatively to head off any possibility of him using his mental condition in any defence against these very serious charges when they proceed to trial.

Under section of the Mental Health Act, Gomeche was moved from prison to the Cornhill Psychiatric Hospital in Aberdeen with a preliminary diagnosis of "psychosis", and there are reports that further tests diagnosed "bi-polar affective disorder with schizophrenia." The cases did not go ahead and section and treatment under the Mental Health Act became the preferred resolution at the time.

While this does unfortunately mean that there may be no final legal closure for those who have suffered Gomeche's criminal victimisation and harassment over many years, it does ensure that he will remain isolated and unable to harrass while he undergoes treatment, something we must accept as a valid alternative. Additionally, it has been explicitly confirmed by the investigating officers that should he be released in the future and re-offend, immediate action will be taken to bring him into custody without delay on first report received by the local police. This does guarantee some confidence at last among those who have suffered that they can finally go about their lawful business without having to fear his unrestricted reappearance in future.

 

[Myth Buster]

Privacy violation

The link to the famous "Retreat"

http://groups.msn.com/306355ti7igqi..._Message=119&LastModified=4675527396404386002

its says nothing really other than a load of old waffle designed to impress anyone gullible enough to be impressed by such blarney. It is well know he is residing in a Bournemouth suburb"

Well known by whom? The only people who have published this information in violation of the terms of joining the JREF are yourselves. The town is not mentioned anywhere on the link. The town is mentioned only by yourselves.

 

[Paul]

Myth Buster, in between avoiding answering direct questions could you stop behaving like a spiteful child if that's possible. You complain about Manchester’s information being made available yet use every opportunity to post personal information about others. You also claim no connection yet posses far beyond casual knowledge of the situation and a distinct animosity to anyone doubting the loony bishop.

As for the combat 18 episode, is this public information or are you engaging in calumny?

 

[Lothian]

Couple of quick questions.


Mythbuster. Am I right in surmising that you don’t approve of bashing the bishop?

Cathy & Babs. Do you believe in any fantasy characters other than God?

 

[Myth Buster]

How about a level playing field?

Myth Buster, in between avoiding answering direct questions could you stop behaving like a spiteful child if that's possible. You complain about Manchester’s information being made available yet use every opportunity to post personal information about others. You also claim no connection yet posses far beyond casual knowledge of the situation and a distinct animosity to anyone doubting the loony bishop. As for the combat 18 episode, is this public information or are you engaging in calumny?

How many of my direct questions have been answered?

What I have posted is public information which, up until recently, could have been read on the Gomechewatch website and can still be found on various others.

Please identify exactly what "personal information" I have divulged. What I have "divulged" came partly indirectly from the two females themselves and partly from the net in general. My information is not "casual" because I had to look hard to find it. But it's out there.

They, on the other hand, are posting private information without attracting any disapproval on your part.

But, then, you are someone who talks of others "engaging in calumny" and "a loony bishop" in the same breath.

 

[Timble]

Bournemouth probably comes from the address (or former address) of the Gothic Press, and that other photo looks a lot like Bournemouth.

 

[Myth Buster]

Malicious gossip is not my style

Couple of quick questions.


Mythbuster. Am I right in surmising that you don’t approve of bashing the bishop?

Cathy & Babs. Do you believe in any supernatural characters other than God?

I do not believe in attacking anyone on the say-so of a couple of vitriolic females waging a hate campaign.

 

[brodski]

But, then, you are someone who talks of others "engaging in calumny" and "a loony bishop" in the same breath.

The man thinks that vampires are real, and that he has "exorcized" them, that counts as loony in my book.
Further more, calling someone a "loony" can be deemed to be a "base insult" and therefore not actionable under UK law. Insinuating that someone ahs links with neo-Nazi terrorist organizations on the other hand, is a different matter entirely.

Don't think for a moment that we are supporting one vampire hunter over another, they all appears to be deluded, Manchester gets more attention from sceptics than other (possibly more deluded) "vampire hunters", as he has a much higher media profile.

 

[brodski]

I do not believe in attacking anyone on the say-so of a couple of vitriolic females waging a hate campaign.

How about attacking him because HE THINKS HE FIGHTS VAMPIERS?
Debunking him seems a reasonable activity for those engaged in skeptical activism.

 

[Darat]

...snip....

Will you answer my rather simple question or not?

Thanks - so just to make it clear you have no connection to Sean Manchester?

 

[Lothian]

I do not believe in attacking anyone on the say-so of a couple of vitriolic females waging a hate campaign.

Fine Sean, but I asked about masturbation.

What is your opinion ? Does the British Old Catholic Church follow the Vatican line ?

 

[Paul]

How many of my direct questions have been answered?

Perhaps if you asked anything worth a considered answer.

What I have posted is public information which, up until recently, could have been read on the Gomechewatch website and can still be found on various others.

So you support the posting of the minutiae of the lives of people you don't like, but da bishop is off limits?

Please identify exactly what "personal information" I have divulged. What I have "divulged" came partly indirectly from the two females themselves and partly from the net in general.

Whether information is personal is not defined by where it was obtained.

My information is not "casual" because I had to look hard to find it. But it's out there.

So, if you weren't hiding behind an anonymous username, anything I could dig up on you would be OK to publish?

They, on the other hand, are posting private information without attracting any disapproval on your part.

But you, of course, would never do anything like that.

But, then, you are someone who talks of others "engaging in calumny"

I thought the phrase might make you feel at home.

and "a loony bishop" in the same breath.

Well he does believe in vampires and make ridiculous claims about them.

 

[CatherineFearnley]

Manchester threatens to sue everyone every second Breath--as the Bizaree Byss website in American said
"My attorney and I are waiting." They waited in vain. They even had the unique distinction of getting an aopogy out of the idiot!!!

What else--how does Manchester know so much about Ian Gomeches medical history--is he in breach of Freedom of Information?

Cstherine and I are not waging "HATE CAMPAIGN" WE DONT HATE THE SILLY OLD DUFFER, BUT WE ARE SIMPLY answering his postty accusations against him. That is entirely within our rights to rectify all the nasty sleaze he has written about us just because we got in touch with his arch enemy David Farrant, to see what he ahd to say about Manchesters accusations.

Just listening to one persons point of view is the action of a docile person with no intelliegence.

Finally if his blasted RETREAT HOUSE is a private residence not open to the public who wish to make a retreat, I suggest he takes it off his message board and stops making out that it is a proper retreat centre where you can go for a retreat. If it si just his house open for his friend--if he has any--then why has he got to advertise it???????

touche old chap!

barbara

 

[CatherineFearnley]

Please "bear with us" as that ghastly modern sayingis--Catherine and I will undertake to becoem un--conjoined by tomorrow when she comes over. However, just to say as we are both in the same boat with old Manchersterkins and his dickipoggy church and naughty accusations about us both--for the sin of asking David Farrant for his point of view---there is not the problem that we are hiding under each others names or pretending to be someone else--like a certain belly-busting bishop!


barbara

 

[Lothian]

Please "bear with us" as that ghastly modern sayingis--Catherine and I will undertake to becoem un--conjoined by tomorrow when she comes over. However, just to say as we are both in the same boat with old Manchersterkins and his dickipoggy church and naughty accusations about us both--for the sin of asking David Farrant for his point of view---there is not the problem that we are hiding under each others names or pretending to be someone else--like a certain belly-busting bishop!


barbara

What is a dickipoggy church?

Does bonkers Manchester cause more harm that the bonking bishops and paedophile priests in your own church?

 

[Miss Whiplash]

So a senior Anglican Bishop within the Church of England as by Law Established is not verification?

No, because the C of E has no record of him. Where can we find verification other than Manchester's own website?

And if Old Catholics in the UK publish an Ad Clerum in support of Sean Manchester, how can he possibly be described as "self-proclaimed"?

Who has published support? The Old Catholic churches I've contacted have never heard of him.

Furthermore, why should he or anyone else feel obliged to prove anything to those who are obviously out to ridicule and defame him, especially when they are also out to ridicule and defame his traditional brand of religion?

Who is defaming his religion? I am asking for independent verification of his credentials.

The fact still remains that he was properly ordained and consecrated. Those three occasions were witnessed. Only militant atheists like yourself and those waging a compulsive hate campaign raise this as an issue. Why should he or those in his church be remotely bothered by what you think, say or do? You are against him.

If you are not bothered, why are you having a temper tantrum? Why do you think I'm a militant atheist?

Regarding Darat's question, I thought I had answered it.

Try again.

Will you answer this question: do you have some affiliation with David Farrant?

Of course I will answer this. I have no affiliation with David Farrant at all. I'd never heard of the man until I found that poor family whose blog you two wrecked. After reading that trainwreck, I contacted the parties involved. You had already invited me to your forum - only to approve my application and then ban me. Farrant invited me to his forum and I've yet to post anything.

Why are you obsessed with what forums I join?

 

[Miss Whiplash]

The link to the famous "Retreat"

http://groups.msn.com/306355ti7igqi..._Message=119&LastModified=4675527396404386002

its says nothing really other than a load of old waffle designed to impress anyone gullible enough to be impressed by such blarney. It is well know he is residing in a Bournemouth suburb---heaven help his neighbours--what must they think when they see the tea-pot cosy clad one sneak out of his "Retreat cum Cathedral"
<snip>


barbara

I wonder just what this cottage is. After a little research, I found Manchester, when he was in his "Lord Byron" persona, showed an American author pictures of his "Bryon Manor." It was a pic of Manchester dressing in his Byronic foppery posing in front of a restaurant. Diners and the waiters could be seen in the background.

 

[Myth Buster]

Hate campaign terrorists

Further more, calling someone a "loony" can be deemed to be a "base insult" and therefore not actionable under UK law. Insinuating that someone ahs links with neo-Nazi terrorist organizations on the other hand, is a different matter entirely.

Then you must level that accusation against Catherine and Barbara because they have done more than just insinuate that Sean Manchester has "links with neo-Nazi terrorist organisations" while I have merely stated the fact that they have had links with Ian Keith Gomeche and assisted Gomeche in the harassment of Sean Manchester. The closest they got to a neo-Nazi terrorist organisation was Gomeche who was a welcome ally in their hate campaign against Manchester. If you consider that a link, so be it. They have certainly not denied it, nor can they because they know that some of the evidence has already appeared on the net.