Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter

[CatherineFearnley]

A friend of mine who he could not possibly connect with me, sent off for a programme to his "Retreat Centre" as advertised on his MSN board. The impression on there(do you want the link? )is that is is a formal Retreat Centre not a place for family and friends---we could all call our houses "retreats" in that case. My friend sent a SAE and it was a genuine wish to see what courses he was advertising and what church amenities he had---there was no reply of course, so he shouldnt be advertising!!


barbara

barbara

 

[Myth Buster]

Robin graves

As for your point about paranormal research, yes, I have done some I admit out of interest and curiosity, as when I was researching Robin Hoods Grave I got a lot of reports independently from people who had seen and experienced "strange goings ons" by the grave. ... This is a different kettle of fish entirely from breaking into tombs, desecrating peoples nearest and dearest

Are you claiming that Robin Hood was a real person and not a character of fiction?

Has Sean Manchester been charged with "breaking into tombs, desecrating people's nearest and dearest"?

No.

Has one of your associates been charged with and found guilty of "breaking into tombs, desecrating people's nearest and dearest?"

Yes.

Facts are what count. Not wild and unsubstantiated allegations.

 

[Myth Buster]

Robin the truth

It is true also that we attended an "occult" service to exorcise/bless Robin Hood's Grave. Barbara

Catherine says this "occult service to exorcise/bless Robin Hood's grave" was something which did not "involve spiritualism, ghost hunting, and witchcraft or occult rituals."

The person conducting the occult ceremony, according to the Fortean Times forum, was a witch by the name of Gareth Medway and he was assisted by three others. These are identified as David Farrant, Barbara Green and Catherine Fearnley. Nobody else seems to have been involved except those taking photographs and making a video. One of the photographs appeared in a local Yorkshire newspaper.

 

[Myth Buster]

Retreat to reality

If it is just his house -bungalow for friends then he doesn't need to plaster it all over his message boards and website as a retreat house. The way he's advertising it as put it in the category as a official retreat where you can pay to go.

If what you say is true, why not provide links to where all these "adverts" appear? I could find none and I daresay neither will you find any.

The only place where there is something about his private retreat is on the "Friends of Bishop Sean Manchester" forum which also offers a photograph, and this was placed there not by him but by his secretary.

Far from being a "bungalow" it is a substantial house with stained glass windows, not apparently his main residence, and, once again, the adjoining message carries no advertising as "a retreat where you can pay to go." It is clearly his private retreat for his private use.

Many people refer to their home in the country or at the coast as their retreat, and it is correct for them to do so.

 

[Myth Buster]

Grave desecration by whom?

There is a world of difference between going around doing a bit of paranormal research then desecrating graves and breaking an entry into tombs in Highgate Cemetery. Catherine

I couldn't agree more, which is why I find it very odd that you should want to raise such a topic here.

Your own boyfriend was sentenced to a significant term of imprisonment for malicious vandalism and tomb desecration at Highgate Cemetery, was he not?

 

[CatherineFearnley]

So what if he went into Prison. At least he's not denied it. And at least he's paid the price for it. Manchester should be found guilty for discriminating against David. And should not be allowed to keep spouting off about it.

It was not myself who brought in the subject of desecrating graves and doing paranormal research it was MythBuster himself who brought in the subject. And just because Sean Manchester wasn't charged with desecrating graves doesn't mean to say that he did not do this. He should have been charged for breaking an entry and climbing through a hole in the tombs roof. He has said so himself in his worst selling flimsy stapled pamphlets. Anybody reading from Satan To Christ will be appalled and disgusted over the facts what he is claiming about his wife and what she got upto. She should be ashamed of herself. If I was his wife I would hit him over the head with a frying pan.

Happy the man who has placed his trust in the Lord

Happy indeed is the man
who follows not the counsel of the wicked;
nor lingers in the way of sinners
nor sits in the company of scorners,
but whose delight is the law of the Lord
and who ponders his law day and night.

He is like a tree that is planted beside the flowing waters,
that yelds its fruit in due season
and whose leaves shall never fade;
and all that he does shall prosper.

Not so are the wicked, no so!
For they like winnowed chaff
shall be driven away by the wind.
For the Lord guards the way of the just
but the way of the wicked leads to doom

Ps 1:1-4.6.R.Ps 39.5

 

[CatherineFearnley]

Please look Psalm 1.1-4.6.R.Ps39:5

Manchester also FatBellyBuster is talking about of his backside. It was not us who brought the subject of desecrating graves and the paranormal. It was FatBellyBuster who accused US of being 'involved' in such matters. And anyway even if we were involved with such subjects so what. We were entitled to be. It wasn't as though we were going to a Church at that point so we were completely justified.

David is entitled to live a quiet life without some tosser harping on about HIS faults. At least he admits his faults and doesn't say that he is Mr. Perfect and the immaculate conception like Manchester did in Stray Wits, how utterly disgusting talking about his mum and dad in that way. I would have been ashamed of myself. Not to mention that Manchester had more afffairs then hot dinners. But whatever anybody saw in him I cannot imagine. Bring me the sick bag.

Didn't God himself mix with Sinners, does none of the Bible ever sink in with you to say that you are a so-called 'Bishop' you certainly do not behave like one and should have been excommunicated and defrocked and burnt at the stake years ago and ducked in the ducking stool and put a scolds bridle on and whipped at the cart tail.

Catherine

 

[CatherineFearnley]

Not only should he not have been charged with breaking and entering, he should be charged for all the bodies that he's allegedly burnt and chopped up and desecrated into the process or is he now denying that he's done this. Is that not technically speaking interferring with dead bodies. Which is illegal in this Country and no doubt elsewhere.

Catherine

 

[CatherineFearnley]

Robin Hood was a real person, there is plenty of documented evidence about someone of that name in medieval records. Thsi is more than can be said of Sean Manchester, he is just a person making titles up for himself to feed his overflated ego.
As it is Sunday he should have been in his church giving a sermon, not writing silly messages on the Internet. Obviously he has nothing better to do with his time. He is a complete cham and charlaton, in all the disputes about him on the Internet, he has never been able to prove any of his claims from being Lord Byrons descendent to being a Bishop. He was a milkman for a time, I'll give you that!

As for his riduculous claims to have killed thousands of vampires-where are they all--these so called "vampires" would have had family and descendents, so it is obviously all tommyrot to say he has killed thousands of vampires---even to kill one would take some explaining and verification to the authorities, the whole vampire myth--if busting myths is what you want to do---is quite unsupportable. Doctors , coroners and the police, as well as family members, would have something to say if they saw a bit fat fella in the nude in a skimpy purple cloak covering his unmentionables lurking around graveyards in a purple cloak with his dangling cross,and hadn-held stake, garlic and sextons shovel, digging up their nearest and dearest and taking photos to publish on the Internet.

If there was any direct descendents of the Wace family of Highgate into which tomb his got into through a hole in the roof he had hacked---he was a bit thinner then!----they would have had him up for tomb vandalism and interfering with their ancestors corpse.

If Manchester did not do this then he is a liar to say he didnt, as he has published it all in the Highgate Vampire--which he swears is the Gospel truth and his Vampires Hunters Handbook.

So he is stuffed both ways, either he is a liar or a trespasser doing criminal damage.

So what is it to be? He is hoist with his own petard--whatever a petard is--maybe a stake in his case

barbara

 

[Rrose Selavy]

It's clear from just a little research that there has been a long running (since the 70s) rivalry and feud between Manchester and Farrant (self proclaimed president of the "Highgate Vampire Society") et al over "ownership" of the investigation of the mythical entity known as the so called "Highgate Vampire" -

The world of wannabe- Van Helsings is a small place it seems-
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[Myth Buster]

JREF Forum Rules

Manchester also FatBellyBuster is talking about of his backside.

By posting on the JREF Forum you agree to abide by and follow the Guidelines and Rules. These include:

1. Be civil and polite.

2. You will not post anything that is considered to be potentially criminal.

3. You will not post a person's private information that is not otherwise publicly available.

Catherine and Barbara have not been civil and polite.

They have posted potentially criminal material which is harassing, threatening and maliciously false. Some of the material they have posted contravenes the UK's Data Protection Act 1998 and the Religious Hatred Act 2006.

They have also posted private information that is not otherwise publicly available, ie the identity of the town where the object of their hatred has a private residence.

 

[The_Fire]

If you have a problem with a poster, send your evidence to the admins/mods.

 

[Timble]

This just looks like another skirmish between two parties who've been harrassing each other in print and over the internet for years, it's quite entertaining in a way...

 

[brodski]

They have posted potentially criminal material which is harassing, threatening and maliciously false. Some of the material they have posted contravenes the UK's Data Protection Act 1998 and the Religious Hatred Act 2006.
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I would be very interested in seeing where you claim they have breached either DPA or have incited religious hatred.
On the other hand you clearly HAVE made accusations of criminal activity, which could very well be considered libelous (if the board where hosed in the UK, which it isn't, so the point is moot).

 

[Myth Buster]

Mythical friends

A friend of mine who he could not possibly connect with me, sent off for a programme to his "Retreat Centre" as advertised on his MSN board. The impression on there(do you want the link? )is that is is a formal Retreat Centre not a place for family and friends---we could all call our houses "retreats" in that case. My friend sent a SAE and it was a genuine wish to see what courses he was advertising and what church amenities he had---there was no reply of course, so he shouldnt be advertising!!

How could your mythical friend "send off for a programme" when no programme is advertised, no retreat is advertised, and no address is advertised?

Without an address where did your friend send a SAE?

A link to what you claim would be the only response worth making, but I have looked and such an advertisement does not exist. You two females are the only people to have identified a certain town on the net.

 

[Myth Buster]

Pots and kettles

On the other hand you clearly HAVE made accusations of criminal activity, which could very well be considered libelous (if the board where hosed in the UK, which it isn't, so the point is moot).

Libel is civil, not criminal. Even so, I have made no libellous comments. The statements I have made about criminal activity are a matter of public record, not denied by the two females posting defamation of character and breaking the rules agreed when joining this forum.

If you would care to identify any libel you wish to attribute to me, please be my guest. Let's examine the facts and, in doing so, also refute the falsehoods.

 

[brodski]

Libel is civil, not criminal. Even so, I have made no libellous comments. The statements I have made about criminal activity are a matter of public record, not denied by the two females posting defamation of character and breaking the rules agreed when joining this forum.

If you would care to identify any libel you wish to attribute to me, please be my guest. Let's examine the facts and, in doing so, also refute the falsehoods.

It was in the post I quoted, where you alleged that they have incited religious hatred, with their posts on this board. that is clearly not borne out by the facts. that accusation may be considered libelous in some jurisdictions. i am also dubious as to your claim that by posting here they have breached the DPA. It is for you to prove these allegations true, not for them to prove them false.

 

[CatherineFearnley]

What is libellous and criminal for that matter about defending one's own reputation which has been libelled by the lord bishop whatever in the first place? Also we are telling the truth and have stacks and volumes of stuff about this matter ammassed over 20 odd years to back up what we have said. Okay, sometimes we do get a mite "irreverant" to the so called "reverand" but the fact is he is the one who started sending photocopies out to all and sundry with our details and so called misdemenours and later----groans--the Internet when he had managed to find out how to switch it on!
Manchesters silly agenda he


1) Stakes!!! his reputation on the existance of vampires and his hunting and despatching of them which

2)Vampires or not, from his published words he advises people into very dubious and dangerous activities with the potential for tragedy

3) Has a very dodgy religious qualification which, valid or not, has no back-up real-life reality that we can find anyway, for him to be the bishop of a church.

4) If he has, its very hard, if not impossible, to find!


Thats all for now

You dont know the ' arf!!!!

Also, just to emlighten, Lord Sean Manchester was the Patron of the Yorkshire Robin Hood Society --till he resigned in a miff cos I spoke to David Farrant once---and i he nstigated a vampire hunt on the lands of Lady Margaret Armytage after he had been refused admission by her ladyship. He wrote this up in a magazine called Orbis in 1991 which I can happily send copies out to those interested, at great risk to my good self of being thundered at for copyright theft. I also have a critique of the so called Kirklees vampire hunt, to be honest I dont think it ever took place, and it is like the B side of the Highgate Vampire.

barbara

 

[Myth Buster]

Fact not fiction

I would be very interested in seeing where you claim they have breached either DPA or have incited religious hatred.

Allegations made about Sean Manchester's religious denomination and standing as an ordained minister within that denomination are in breach of a section of the Religious Hatred Act 2006. Those who make hateful and damaging comments are obliged to prove them if they do not want to fall foul of the law. This is certainly the case with libel where the burden of proof is always with the libeller. Most rational and reasonable observers would agree that there is much posted by Catherine and Barbara which is potentially libellous.

The comments made are patently defamatory, abusive and harassing to the detriment of Sean Manchester against whom a hate campaign is being conducted by the two concerned, namely Catherine and Barbara.

Sean Manchester resides mostly at Glastonbury and it would seem is a recognised Bishop by all those within the relevant denominations of his area of orthodoxy.

See: http://www.holygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/BSC.htm (where a leading Anglican Bishop supports Sean Manchester's validity at a hearing chaired by him).

Also: http://www.independentoldcatholic.org:80/adclerum+sm.html (where Sean Manchester's validity is supported by those within his own denomination, ie Old Catholic).

Catherine and Barbara's abusive posts must be viewed in the light of two basic facts: they are apologists for David Farrant who can apparently do no wrong in their eyes; they are waging a malicious vendetta on Farrant's behalf despite the fact that Catherine was not born at the time of most of the happenings she obsessively posts about. Barbara is three months older than Farrant (who is 61), but none the wiser for it.

For an idea of the sort of people on whom reliance is being placed by some to attack Sean Manchester, take a look at what Farrant claimed he was up to last Hallowe'en, as reported in The Sun, 31 October 2006:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006500393,00.html

Farrant, accompanied by Barbara and Catherine (whom he first met in June 2004), were photographed conducting an alleged "occult ceremony" over a tomb on private land at Kirklees Park Estate, Yorkshire, in April 2005. No permission to carry out this "ritual" on privately owned land was sought and certainly none was given. A photograph of the publicity stunt appeared in a local Yorkshire newspaper courtesy of Barbara. Farrant has been courting publicity in the press by means of pseudo-occultism and phoney witchcraft for the past thirty-six years. To achieve this he is obliged to resort to extravagant claims which bear no resemblance to the truth. Even witches and pagans want nothing to do with him. Wiccan boards found where his Hallowe'en antics get mentioned are justifiably critical of Farrant and his motives. See the following examples which are representative of many more that could be cited:

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/jasonpitzl/116248998108551071/#200132

http://www.pagan-network.org/smf1_1/index.php?topic=21497.0

 

[Darat]

I have been investigating what has been claimed on this thread

...snip...

By "investigating" do you mean asking Sean Manchester? (And I'm asking since I assume you are connected with him.)