Questions. Simply.

[Quad4_72]

Oh by they way ref take note of my Sig.

 

[fuelair]

Suppose monkeys flew out of my butt? What was their motive for being in there?

?

They are feces eating CT monkeys!!!

 

[Oliver]

Well - i don´t live in america - so i´m less confused than 1/3 of
americans, i highly guess. Here are my honest answers:

1. How many people would you think, it would at least involve if LIHOP was true? What would be the least amount of people needed to create the confusion and allowing everything to take place?

Less than 50.

2. The four FDR:s from WTC site have not been found. How come there is not a sighting of any of those four after moving all the rubble? Would they be so destructed?

I thought they found at least two of them. Wrong?

3. Suppose the FDR's are kept behind closed doors. What, if any, would be the motive for that?

Ongoing invetigations? But they should be over after all this time...

4. It was known that OBL was in Afghanistan and with Taliban. Taliban was already under pressure from the US and others. Do you think they didn't take the counter attack into account, and if did, what was their plan, since Taliban is now out of power and OBL somewhere missing or dead?

Well, this is a big mistery. I wonder if they ever thought about
Osama Bin Laden at all or if they were much more interested
in the Taliban/Iraq.

5. What is your take on the Barbara Olson phone call from flight 77? There is this claim:

"She was using the phone in the passengers’ seats,” said Mr Olson. Though the American Airlines Boeing 757 is fitted with individual telephones at each seat position, they are not of the variety where you can simply pick up the handset and ask for an operator. On many aircraft you can talk from one seat to another in the aircraft free of charge, but if you wish to access the outside world you must first swipe your credit card through the telephone. By Ted Olson’s own admission, Barbara did not have a credit card with her.

On American Airlines there is a telephone "setup" charge of US$2.50 which can only be paid by credit card, then a US$2.50 (sometimes US$5.00) charge per minute of speech thereafter. The setup charge is the crucial element. Without paying it in advance by swiping your credit card you cannot access the external telephone network."

What is your take on that?

I dont know for sure - but it sounds more like that there
is a simple explanation for it than it´s a smoking gun...

6. Why did Madeline Sweeney, flight attendant for 12 years, not recognize New York City?

"Woodward asks her to look out the window to see where they are. "I see water. I see buildings. We are flying low. We are flying very, very low. We are flying way too low. -pause- Oh my God, we are way too low."

I guess she was pretty much stressed and had no "clear mind"
at all in this situation. Such things are normal in unusal situations.
I´m sure you also made such expieriences when you can´t remember
something in a stressful situation.

 

[beachnut]

I do not know where I am syndrome!

I bet no one can guess the city I fly them down with a stupid airline window and at high speed and not tell you were we are! I bet you I can fool you all day long, that person never ever had seen NYC at 300 to 500 mph from 1000 feet! End of story! Debunked!

Airlines do not fly down the city at building level going 300 to 500 mph; it is against the law!

So you want to know why something never done before; being able to say where you are when you do not know were you are and the stupid WTC are ahead of you not next to you out the window.

This is the dumb question of the year! But then I am a pilot who would never land at the wrong airport, cause we know better; oops we do land at the wrong airports.

Any grade school class could come up with lots of ideas; what is your idea to keep from proving you are a dumb question asker.

What is the purpose of your question?

If you say you can not make up an good answer you have problems.

Why not say what you think you are trying to learn and why? Much more interesting than proving you have not imagination and are trying to what?

 

[Oliver]

What is the purpose of your question?

He is in the fallacy that an experienced Stewardess should
remind the location while approaching. The problem i see
is that it was no usual approach at NY-Airport and that
she was under a stress situation. I wonder why ct´ists
can´t figure these simple things out for their own...

 

[beachnut]

Why are FDRs magical? Who cares if you find them? What would be the difference to the CT cult movement of lies? If the facts that four airplanes were destroyed on 9/11 and they happen to be the ones who on radar and on record hit the WTC, PA, and the Pentagon is not enough then you CT guys are dumb. (plus add a bunch of people in on the plot, airlines, all sorts of people, security people, ATC, radar interpreters, etc. 1000s of more in on the LIH dots cult movement)

FDR, why FDRs? What do they prove?

When will a CT guy come up with proof of anything?

 

[28th Kingdom]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

 

[Bell]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

First, he did not say it in that way.

Second, MARK BINGHAM IS DEAD!!! So stop acting so goddamn disrespectful, you ignorant son of a bitch!!

 

[Oliver]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

But his OWN MOTHER confirmed that Mark Bingham
used to say his full name while calling her. So what
the heck is suspicious about that. Some people
have spleens - what´s the matter about it?

 

[Alt+F4]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked.

You KNOW? Evidence please.

 

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Ok let's assume she did not recognize Manhattan in panic and through small windows.

You'd also have to research what landmarks, if any, would be visible along the flight path with, say, a 15-30 second view from an airplane window.

All-in-all, your "why didn't she recognize Manhattan" question wasn't thought out very well.

 

[ref]

Please when you ask questions and then offer up answers it is better to reinforce your scenario rather than totally contradicting it.

In summary you want to suggest 911 was allowed to happen and with could have been done by less than ten people. Then you have gone on to suggest evidence was removed, evidence is being suppressed and phone calls were not as they seem,please make up your mind what you are suggesting.

So in your opinion I can't ask separate questions? Because if any of the questions had anything to do with each other, they would be 2 and 3. Others are separate, and have nothing to do with a continuing agenda, or some strange theory that I would like to pursue. I hadn't seen the FDR question before answered so I thought I asked your opinion about that. About the calls, I asked your opinion about the theories circulating. Those have nothing to do with any one hypothesis of the day's event that I might consider being the correct one.

 

[Horatius]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

Here's my comment on that, from another thread. Not that 28th will see it, but perhaps some pesky non-ignored person could quote it.

I've often wondered if his mother is like me. I have a hard time recognizing people's voices on the phone. Most of the people who call me regularly have figured this out, and just tell me right out who they are. If his mom is like this, and knows a lot of guys named Mark, it could explain a lot.

Even my Mom says, "Hi, it's mom" when she calls.

 

[ref]

Age has nothing to do with it. Grow up.

Sometimes I forget, that not all people get sarcasm. So let's take this literally then. I know age has nothing to do with it. I hope some of you would also grow up to understand some simple things. Not talking about theories now. Some more everyday things.

 

[Alt+F4]

So in your opinion I can't ask separate questions? Because if any of the questions had anything to do with each other, they would be 2 and 3. Others are separate, and have nothing to do with a continuing agenda, or some strange theory that I would like to pursue. I hadn't seen the FDR question before answered so I thought I asked your opinion about that. About the calls, I asked your opinion about the theories circulating. Those have nothing to do with any one hypothesis of the day's event that I might consider being the correct one.

Well if you do have a hypothesis that can incompass logical answers to all your questions I'd be curious to hear it.

 

[Bell]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

Here's my comment on that, from another thread. Not that 28th will see it, but perhaps some pesky non-ignored person could quote it.

I've often wondered if his mother is like me. I have a hard time recognizing people's voices on the phone. Most of the people who call me regularly have figured this out, and just tell me right out who they are. If his mom is like this, and knows a lot of guys named Mark, it could explain a lot.

Even my Mom says, "Hi, it's mom" when she calls.

No problem.

 

[ref]

Just a simple question Ref.

If you don't like the Bush administration, why don't you focus on its policies, and try to protest them in a rational and democratic fashion, instead of trying to make this ridiculous house of cards work?

Can you tell me what is my house of cards then? I don't know so glad you do. I don't like many administrations. I have not myself suggested a single hypotheses or theory, so if that is the house of cards for you?

I just speculated, if there was LIHOP then this would be possibly their thing and so on. But seems you need only hard facts, and no speculating whatsoever. Fine. Since there still will be these same topics with or without me, I thought maybe we could see what that mindstate includes and why. It's called taking someone else's position and approaching from that point of view to understand better.

 

[ref]

Nothing is indestructible ref. With enough force, heat, and damage you can destroy anything. Well, according to Loose Change they are indestructible but that hardly counts as credible. "The recorders themselves are made from the most impervious metals known to man" -Loose Change. *ROLLS EYES*

I know your sig man. You know what? Sometimes people reveal their true selves when irritated. I do sometimes that on purpose. I know the calls could have been made etc. I see a theory on the net and ask, what is your reaction to that. That is/was never my own theory. Seeing how people react to that gives some basis on what they truly base their believes on. And what they are as people. From this short period of time I can already see, whose posts are worth a notice, and who's not. But that aside, everything deserves at least a look, not just the shaking of shoulder, even the dumbest thing that one single person has noticed. They might be useful in other contexts if not the current. And some things I really wonder. That Osama future plan for example. Thinking they could take the retaliation, could he really think like that? Or just take whatever comes and simply go hiding, leaving his former haven and protectors behind.

 

[Pardalis]

House of cards:

1. How many people would you think, it would at least involve if LIHOP was true? What would be the least amount of people needed to create the confusion and allowing everything to take place?

2. The four FDR:s from WTC site have not been found. How come there is not a sighting of any of those four after moving all the rubble? Would they be so destructed?

3. Suppose the FDR's are kept behind closed doors. What, if any, would be the motive for that?

4. It was known that OBL was in Afghanistan and with Taliban. Taliban was already under pressure from the US and others. Do you think they didn't take the counter attack into account, and if did, what was their plan, since Taliban is now out of power and OBL somewhere missing or dead?

5. What is your take on the Barbara Olson phone call from flight 77? There is this claim:

"She was using the phone in the passengers’ seats,” said Mr Olson. Though the American Airlines Boeing 757 is fitted with individual telephones at each seat position, they are not of the variety where you can simply pick up the handset and ask for an operator. On many aircraft you can talk from one seat to another in the aircraft free of charge, but if you wish to access the outside world you must first swipe your credit card through the telephone. By Ted Olson’s own admission, Barbara did not have a credit card with her.

On American Airlines there is a telephone "setup" charge of US$2.50 which can only be paid by credit card, then a US$2.50 (sometimes US$5.00) charge per minute of speech thereafter. The setup charge is the crucial element. Without paying it in advance by swiping your credit card you cannot access the external telephone network."

What is your take on that?

6. Why did Madeline Sweeney, flight attendant for 12 years, not recognize New York City?

"Woodward asks her to look out the window to see where they are. "I see water. I see buildings. We are flying low. We are flying very, very low. We are flying way too low. -pause- Oh my God, we are way too low."

 

[ref]

I do not know where I am syndrome!

I bet no one can guess the city I fly them down with a stupid airline window and at high speed and not tell you were we are! I bet you I can fool you all day long, that person never ever had seen NYC at 300 to 500 mph from 1000 feet! End of story! Debunked!

Airlines do not fly down the city at building level going 300 to 500 mph; it is against the law!

So you want to know why something never done before; being able to say where you are when you do not know were you are and the stupid WTC are ahead of you not next to you out the window.

This is the dumb question of the year! But then I am a pilot who would never land at the wrong airport, cause we know better; oops we do land at the wrong airports.

Any grade school class could come up with lots of ideas; what is your idea to keep from proving you are a dumb question asker.

What is the purpose of your question?

If you say you can not make up an good answer you have problems.

Why not say what you think you are trying to learn and why? Much more interesting than proving you have not imagination and are trying to what?

I know you have some very good experience and knowledge, so I leave all that other, strange flow of mind unnoticed. I tell you what I try to learn. Mindstates of different believers, and their basis on their views. Seems quite hard in this board however, since I start to learn that everybody has about the same mindstate. Nothing really interesting. No actual conflict of some real topics. Where are all the sane so called twoofers anyway? Someone had a bit sensible theory about the LIHOP, posted by uk_dave from LC forum on another thread. I would like to see him discussing it here with you. But all I see is couple of full deniers. Wake up people like 28th and some others. Really. Everything that the CT'es say is NOT true. When something is debunked ACCEPT IT. Focus on other topics. You do harm to your own side by hanging on to false claims.