CptColumbo
Just One More Question
Didn't the NIST report show that there was nothing unusual or substandard about the steel?
Roberts to Debate Bermas on 'Hardfire'
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Garb
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I appreciate your concerns, but keep in mind that the Ground Zero video is edited to give the impression you got. It doesn't show me giving the facts that refute the CT arguments. It doesn't show their inablilty to name a single thing I was wrong about when I asked them, including the camera crew. It doesn't show the reason that I was mad at the guy in the beginning. Don't worry about my debate style or my command of the material.
I'm curious, can you debunk MY existence??
Gravy
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Ahhh the old annoying fire rating issue.
Of course in woowooland steel doesn't need fire rating or protection because steel is impervious to fire unless thermite is used.
The idea that a steel assembly would have to pass a test that only takes 1 hour is just not what you see on youtube, therefore it cannot be true.
Therefore the fire protection companies and the testers are in on it.
Kiwiwriter
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Been away for a bit...
No, I'm juggling a whole mess of projects at home and at work, so I've had to jump on my horse and ride off in all directions, to quote from Stephen Leacock.
Right now, besides work and my family, the big thing is wrapping up the next article for my web page on World War II.
No, I'm juggling a whole mess of projects at home and at work, so I've had to jump on my horse and ride off in all directions, to quote from Stephen Leacock.
Right now, besides work and my family, the big thing is wrapping up the next article for my web page on World War II.
Kiwiwriter
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Thanks for the answers...
I see, free access for Alex. Saves him a bundle.
The money issue...I see their ads on E-bay (which is how I found out about the stupid movie LC in the first place), and they're offered at "Buy It Now" for $1.50, or in packs with Alex Jones videos at $5.00 a pop. and the ad gives a lot of verbiage about how people are encouraged to copy it now (before it gets banned) and give it to their family and friends. So circulation may be greater than sales.
As for bills: Auto insurance they better have from somewhere so they can drive off to make these appearances. But one of the things I read about the lives of the neo-Nazi nutters was that the followers lived in extreme poverty while the leaders had plenty of cash. Back in the 60s, Rockwell's people lived in a barracks in Arlington, Virginia, so poor that they ate Rice Krispies for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They depended on donations, and apparently got some, when their antics did not enrage donors.
In the 1990s, William Pierce's followers, when not boxing copies of his book "The Turner Diaries" and "Y2K survival kits" for mailing, lived on his compound in Pennsylvania, where, a disaffected follower said, nobody had a working car, medical insurance, or a wife that wasn't a mail-order from Eastern Europe. The only guy who got to watch TV was Pierce himself, and he neglected changing his contact lenses, which damaged his eyes. This follower asked her husband why they couldn't live a "normal life," and he said, "What's a normal life?"
Meanwhile, Pierce was pocketing the proceeds from the books and kits.
I don't think the LCers have graduated to compound life yet -- they probably will eventually -- but they're not living a "normal life."
As for the money, well...how much they take is a mystery to everyone but them and the IRS.
I see, free access for Alex. Saves him a bundle.
The money issue...I see their ads on E-bay (which is how I found out about the stupid movie LC in the first place), and they're offered at "Buy It Now" for $1.50, or in packs with Alex Jones videos at $5.00 a pop. and the ad gives a lot of verbiage about how people are encouraged to copy it now (before it gets banned) and give it to their family and friends. So circulation may be greater than sales.
As for bills: Auto insurance they better have from somewhere so they can drive off to make these appearances. But one of the things I read about the lives of the neo-Nazi nutters was that the followers lived in extreme poverty while the leaders had plenty of cash. Back in the 60s, Rockwell's people lived in a barracks in Arlington, Virginia, so poor that they ate Rice Krispies for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They depended on donations, and apparently got some, when their antics did not enrage donors.
In the 1990s, William Pierce's followers, when not boxing copies of his book "The Turner Diaries" and "Y2K survival kits" for mailing, lived on his compound in Pennsylvania, where, a disaffected follower said, nobody had a working car, medical insurance, or a wife that wasn't a mail-order from Eastern Europe. The only guy who got to watch TV was Pierce himself, and he neglected changing his contact lenses, which damaged his eyes. This follower asked her husband why they couldn't live a "normal life," and he said, "What's a normal life?"
Meanwhile, Pierce was pocketing the proceeds from the books and kits.
I don't think the LCers have graduated to compound life yet -- they probably will eventually -- but they're not living a "normal life."
As for the money, well...how much they take is a mystery to everyone but them and the IRS.
I asked the IRS to check up on these guys so we can have some taxes done by quarters. Do they pay quarters, or are they racking up some penalties?
I wonder if they know they have to pay quarters? Do they? Any tax guys out there.
They may be in a government compound soon.
tsig
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Actually I just made it up as best I know.
Yep, they're not living in the woods in human-sized chicken coops.
To the LC trio, 20 or 30K a year for mouthing off on radio shows and spending an hour or two on forums is a sweet deal. They would rather receive a small amount of money for little to no real work rather than sweat and toil for a high 5 or 6-figure income. Dylan is working (scouring Google for copyright-free images, audio, and video) so hard because LC:FC will be his last shot at making a sizeable amount of dough in the conspiracy world. If it fails, he will be reduced to making a few thousand a year in residual sales of his older versions and from the ever rarer speech. This is his last chance at making enough to live off of for a year or more. If it succeeds, he will be set for life or at least the next 10 years or so.
To the LC trio, 20 or 30K a year for mouthing off on radio shows and spending an hour or two on forums is a sweet deal. They would rather receive a small amount of money for little to no real work rather than sweat and toil for a high 5 or 6-figure income. Dylan is working (scouring Google for copyright-free images, audio, and video) so hard because LC:FC will be his last shot at making a sizeable amount of dough in the conspiracy world. If it fails, he will be reduced to making a few thousand a year in residual sales of his older versions and from the ever rarer speech. This is his last chance at making enough to live off of for a year or more. If it succeeds, he will be set for life or at least the next 10 years or so.
Kiwiwriter
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I'll bite...why is this so?
Why will LC:FC be the last shot? Can't he just roll along, doing more conspiracy movies about the next round of outrages? Next, he could do one on his "great struggle to reveal the truth," for example.
Why will LC:FC be the last shot? Can't he just roll along, doing more conspiracy movies about the next round of outrages? Next, he could do one on his "great struggle to reveal the truth," for example.
he should ask bermas why he is a habitual liar
see in this video, at frame 3:10, where he tells a fireman at ground zero "i dont know one person here...not one person" meanwhile dylan avery was right next to him 30 seconds earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZnHpkyCp4&mode=related&search=
see in this video, at frame 3:10, where he tells a fireman at ground zero "i dont know one person here...not one person" meanwhile dylan avery was right next to him 30 seconds earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZnHpkyCp4&mode=related&search=
NobbyNobbs
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If it's snowing, the roads will be too dangerous. If it's raining, the roads will be too slick. If it's foggy, there won't be good visuals. If it's windy, the car could get blown off the road. If it's sunny, there's too much danger of skin cancer.
Inquiring Minds Want to Know
These are great questions posed by a deep thinker. Lemme see, now:
-Who called Rudy Guliani and how did they know the WTC was going to collapse?
A guy named Wolf and he just had a hunch.
-What was the name of the "fire department commander" that called Silverstien and why did he call him? Where did he call him?
The commander's name, oddly enough, was also Wolf. Wolf's mother thinks that he and Wolf might be distant cousins. He called him by accident. He was in a bar at the time.
-In light of the fact that we still don't have an explanation from the govt. on WTC7, why did they move the debris without figuring out why it fell?
Wait a minute! Don't tell me! I know--to get to the other side!
-These four airplanes....where are they currently? What did they do with them?
They are in the Miami Metro Zoo disguised as penguins.
-Who called Mayor Willie Brown and why?
A hooker who goes by the name, "Wolfie." (Hey, I'm beginning to see a pattern here.) You have to ask why?
-CNN and MSNBC reporter Rick Sanchez says a police official told him they had found a "van with a suspicious device" in it. Who was this "police official" and why was he not questioned by the commission?
This "police official" is known on the street as "Wolf." He wasn't questioned because he was drunk at the time.
-Why does my sanity get called into question for asking these simple questions?
Beats hell outta me
These are great questions posed by a deep thinker. Lemme see, now:
-Who called Rudy Guliani and how did they know the WTC was going to collapse?
A guy named Wolf and he just had a hunch.
-What was the name of the "fire department commander" that called Silverstien and why did he call him? Where did he call him?
The commander's name, oddly enough, was also Wolf. Wolf's mother thinks that he and Wolf might be distant cousins. He called him by accident. He was in a bar at the time.
-In light of the fact that we still don't have an explanation from the govt. on WTC7, why did they move the debris without figuring out why it fell?
Wait a minute! Don't tell me! I know--to get to the other side!
-These four airplanes....where are they currently? What did they do with them?
They are in the Miami Metro Zoo disguised as penguins.
-Who called Mayor Willie Brown and why?
A hooker who goes by the name, "Wolfie." (Hey, I'm beginning to see a pattern here.) You have to ask why?
-CNN and MSNBC reporter Rick Sanchez says a police official told him they had found a "van with a suspicious device" in it. Who was this "police official" and why was he not questioned by the commission?
This "police official" is known on the street as "Wolf." He wasn't questioned because he was drunk at the time.
-Why does my sanity get called into question for asking these simple questions?
Beats hell outta me
Kiwiwriter said:
He could continue to make conspiracy videos, but he will lose a large part of his flock if he doesn't produce something that shocks the conspiracy world. How many versions of the TWOOF do you need before you get it right? LC:FC will the 3rd (4th, 5th, 6th?) version. With each version and revision differing greatly from previous ones, a ho-hum 'final' video will shake the confidence of his devotees.
If he wants to make another large chunk of change, he has to make LC:FC a blockbuster. Linda Thompson, of flamethrowing-tank at Waco infamy, broke into the low 6-figure range with her Waco: The Big Lie video. Her Waco video was everywhere back in 1993 and 1994.
Also, Dylan and Co. face competition from other 9/11 conspiracy videos. David Ray Griffin has endorsed one of the new ones as the best yet. Anything less than an A+ will simpy be lost in the crowd.
Pomeroo said:
Ron, the kid that created those questions is a conspiracy hanger-on. He enjoys his little space on forums and pseudo Internet shows. If you take the time to directly teach him logical thinking, he will cyber stalk you with mentally unbalanced posts filled with foul language and personal attacks. The CT world is his ego boost. Shaking the tree causes him to lose his nuts. This enrages the squirrel. It's best to ignore or pithily mock him. Direct debate with facts just hurts the kid.
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