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sphenisc said:
Do your 13 statements apply only to religion, or to all other human activities?

If so, then is there any human activity which isn't harmful?
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Part of the title on this thread is religion, but yes of course it can be applied to many other activities (and or) organizations.

I do not know of any activity that does not fall on some shade of gray, but then again everything is not all black or white in this universe.

Paul

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Paulhoff said:
First, I recognize words and god is a word, but it does not explain the idea in full.

Second, ideas come from knowledge, but just saying that you have knowledge of something like a god, does not make that knowledge true. Knowledge is like having a lot of scientific books, and not applying the knowledge in those books into ideas makes them worthless.

You still haven’t given me you idea of a god besides quotes from the bible which would give one a poor idea of a god from the start.

Paul

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This is where it boils down.
Paulhoff it is not an IDEA of GOD it is a FEELING of GOD.
Science can never argue religion as religion can never argue science.
I will continue to try though and am grateful for your accompanyment.
 
Garrette, its like this you read the freakin' Bible and get what you get.
Just like readin Huck Finn.
You don like it? Fine.
I do.
Can you PROVE it aint true?
Respect me and my kin as I respect you and yours. If you please.
If you dont and try to proseletyse my chillun, then we got a argument.
Advice; im gonna win the argument.,
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
Respect me and my kin as I respect you and yours. If you please.
If you dont and try to proseletyse my chillun, then we got a argument.
Advice; im gonna win the argument.,
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Will you and your kin agree never to speak of Jesus in public lest you inadvertently proselytize innocent children? Never witness outside of your church? Never give your testiment outside of your church? (Out of respect for other beliefs, of course.)

If not, then you have no right to complain.
 
Tricky said:
Will you and your kin agree never to speak of Jesus in public lest you inadvertently proselytize innocent children? Never witness outside of your church? Never give your testiment outside of your church? (Out of respect for other beliefs, of course.)

If not, then you have no right to complain.
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Listen lady, you can say whatever the f you wanna say as can i.
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For professed ';science types' it takes you a VERY long time to understand the simplest idea of human decency.
Whats wrong with you?
 
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Canadian Malcontent said:
Listen lady, you can say whatever the f you wanna say as can i.
DONT EVEN THINK OF TRYIONG TO TAKE OVER THE SCHOOLS SO THAT YOU CAN SPOUT YOUR CRAP TO TH EXCLUSION OF MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For professed ';science types' it takes you a VERY long time to understand the simplest idea of human decency.
Whats wrong with you?
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Umm, dude, either you are taking too much or too little.

Your posts wander all over the place, you can't keep a point to argue, and you frequently descend into written hissy fits.

Are you ok?
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
Garrette, its like this you read the freakin' Bible and get what you get.
Just like readin Huck Finn.
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So the bible has exactly the same spiritual authority as The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Thanks for answering that one.

Canadian Malcontent said:
You don like it?
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No, I don't.

Canadian Malcontent said:
I do.
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Fine by me.

Canadian Malcontent said:
Can you PROVE it aint true?
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Prove what isn't true, exactly?

I can point out numerous contradictions, including in the key events of christianity (like the resurrection). Does that prove them untrue? If not, which version do you say is true?

If it's not literally true, are you asking me to prove the untruth of allegory? I can try, but first you'd have to tell me what meanings to take from them, and since you've already said we take our own meanings from it, I don't see how you can do this.

Canadian Malcontent said:
Respect me and my kin
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I never said I didn't nor acted as if I don't.

Canadian Malcontent said:
as I respect you and yours.
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Much obliged.

Canadian Malcontent said:
If you dont and try to proseletyse my chillun, then we got a argument.
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How on earth could we have an argument if the meaning I take from scripture is that I am to proselytize non-belief? You've said I should take my own meaning from it.

And as has already been suggested, if you are to take this stance, then you should, to remain consistent, be against proselytizing in any form by any one of any religion. Are you?

Lastly on this point, don't think that we are proselytizing here. Debating on a skeptical forum is not the same as actively seeking converts, though that does occasionally happen here. Usually from the believer side, though, like say Kurious Kathy.

Canadian Malcontent said:
Advice; im gonna win the argument.,
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What argument would that be? That your interpretation of scripture is correct?

Or are you saying you won't be swayed to non-belief by any of my (hypothetical) proselytizing?
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
Listen lady, you can say whatever the f you wanna say as can i.
DONT EVEN THINK OF TRYIONG TO TAKE OVER THE SCHOOLS SO THAT YOU CAN SPOUT YOUR CRAP TO TH EXCLUSION OF MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For professed ';science types' it takes you a VERY long time to understand the simplest idea of human decency.
Whats wrong with you?
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Before you continue down this rout again you may want to take a break, go outside and get some fresh air, maybe watch some TV or listen to some music. The last time you got like this you ended up saying a lot of unfortunate things and being suspended.
 
Canadian Malcontent said:
Paulhoff my Christianity and that of my Lord does none of those things.
Our purpose is to love.
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Sorry, but me being a white, blue eye male, you most likely don't hear all the BS that I hear from so many so-call christains. One person like you, does not, a religion majority make.

Paul

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Canadian Malcontent said:
Listen lady, you can say whatever the f you wanna say as can i.
DONT EVEN THINK OF TRYIONG TO TAKE OVER THE SCHOOLS SO THAT YOU CAN SPOUT YOUR CRAP TO TH EXCLUSION OF MINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Get a grip and cut the persecuted-religious-type crap.

Saying The state must teach only science in science class is a far far cry from denying anyone's religious freedom. If any side in the religion-in-schools debate is guilty of pushing their "crap" to the exclusion of any other, it's the christian side that pushes thinly disguised religious belief as science when all the science in fact weighs against it.

Canadian Malcontent said:
For professed ';science types' it takes you a VERY long time to understand the simplest idea of human decency.
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Tell me that idea again, please. It seems to be lost in your capitals.

Canadian Malcontent said:
Whats wrong with you?
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A terrible affliction known as Critical Thinking. The initial onset presents as severe mental discomfort followed by what is euphemistically knowns as a "dropping of the veils." Frequently accompanied by community ostracism. Later symptoms include optimism and tolerance punctuated by uncontrollable verbalizations in the form of "You've got to be kidding me" and "You realize there is no evidence at all in support of that, don't you?"

It's usually fatal.
 
Tricky said:
Will you and your kin agree never to speak of Jesus in public lest you inadvertently proselytize innocent children? Never witness outside of your church? Never give your testiment outside of your church? (Out of respect for other beliefs, of course.)

If not, then you have no right to complain.
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Yeah ok and you will keep your mouth shut about your evo theery in return right?
Get a
a freaking grip Tricky, is condescension the stock in trade of you evos?
You realize you lost your battle dont you? In Kansas you can go to jail for evolving, w3hy dont you prove your point by testing the case in Kansas,
accuse someone/thing of 'evolving' and see how it plays in court?

My right to Christianity for me and my children is something you can never take away ("Foff and die"), something that 'All hte Kings horses and all the Kings men" can never take away.
Stop trying you have already lost , you look pathetic, start doing something worthwhile with your life instead.
 
Garrette said:
Get a grip and cut the persecuted-religious-type crap.

Saying The state must teach only science in science class is a far far cry from denying anyone's religious freedom. If any side in the religion-in-schools debate is guilty of pushing their "crap" to the exclusion of any other, it's the christian side that pushes thinly disguised religious belief as science when all the science in fact weighs against it.

Tell me that idea again, please. It seems to be lost in your capitals.

A terrible affliction known as Critical Thinking. The initial onset presents as severe mental discomfort followed by what is euphemistically knowns as a "dropping of the veils." Frequently accompanied by community ostracism. Later symptoms include optimism and tolerance punctuated by uncontrollable verbalizations in the form of "You've got to be kidding me" and "You realize there is no evidence at all in support of that, don't you?"

It's usually fatal.
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Dude we always have been Christian and always will be.
What is your problem anyway?
 
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