Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[Arus808]

Good to see your naivete is intact.

it seems that you dont know what you are talking about

I asked these same questions of you about 30 pages back.
If you have such convincing evidence, why haven't you brought a lawsuite?

 

[Christophera]

If courts cannot solve this issue, and no expert can be trusted, why the hell do you bother ?

Mo good attorney jokes and no evidence, Typical.

Because I know and I love my country and my children. Why do you bother?

Aren't those unimportant points ?

To explain not argue about.

The same evidence to points you claim are "minor" ?

Minor as far as the exactness, major as far as explanation.

 

[Christophera]

I asked these same questions of you about 30 pages back.
If you have such convincing evidence, why haven't you brought a lawsuite?

Great, you and bell can have a party and celebrate your rights and freedom.

 

[Oliver]

Could you make me the favor to let the slang beside?
How should i present evidence if i´m not able to understand
what your talking about?



Are you kidding? The cores were made of many pieces and
were held by bolts. So if a pressure or force to jointed parts
is strong enough, the bolts and joints will fail. And BTW: They
did NOT fail! So there were no C4 within the buildings, genius.



Are you sure there were steel colums added to the center?
Maybe there were none of these cross beams because they
needed the space for the elevators???



BS! The Towers were built to flex because the forces
of wind. So what´s your problem with that? A concrete
core would have avoided this flexibility.

Well???

 

[Bell]

Great, you and bell can have a party and celebrate your rights and freedom.

Christophera, I don't understand how you can life with yourself. 3000 poor victims were murdered by your government. You have ALL the evidence to proof so. It is your PATRIOTIC duty to take the evidence to court. You are failing all the families of those victims. You are denying those families from justice done. Why are you denying them from justice done? Shame on you, Christophera!

 

[Arus808]

Great, you and bell can have a party and celebrate your rights and freedom.

so you're not going to answer the question?

Thes are the same "rights" and "freedoms" you have as well.

So, when do we expect you to file a lawsuite? Please give us a date, time, and jurisdiction you plan on doing so.

 

[Powa]

Then 'straighten' it out already! Why are you wasting time here while someone is getting away with 3,000 capital murders? Do 3,000 murdered Americans matter to you at all?

Good to see your naivete is intact.

I didn't think your non-answers could get any worse, but there you go. Maybe I AM naive, expecting from you anything but evasion from tough questions.

Notived you didn't post any evidence.

I don't feel a need to spam this thread with the same evidence over and over again, like you. It was posted here so many times it's not even funny. Besides, you said that nothing will convince you, so why bother.

Steven Jones removed his misinterpretations, soon everybody else will. Then you'll be supporting liars all by yourself.

Can you give me an ETA on that? Because you haven't convinced anyone here with your 'obvious' evidence in six months.

Hey, you can make a website about your battle for truth here.

Debating you is no more a battle than taking candy from a retarded child is.

Then link to mine.

I'm going to put your site in my sig. Howzat? Everybody needs a good laugh now and then.

 

[beachnut]

I didn't think your non-answers could get any worse, but there you go. Maybe I AM naive, expecting from you anything but evasion from tough questions.


I don't feel a need to spam this thread with the same evidence over and over again, like you. It was posted here so many times it's not even funny. Besides, you said that nothing will convince you, so why bother.


Can you give me an ETA on that? Because you haven't convinced anyone here with your 'obvious' evidence in six months.


Debating you is no more a battle than taking candy from a retarded child is.


I'm going to put your site in my sig. Howzat? Everybody needs a good laugh now and then.

That should do it. Smile when you read about the C-4 in the floor.

But I was thinking about doing line by line rebuttal on his site but I can not read more than a small bit before I have to go read something else!

 

[Christophera]

I didn't think your non-answers could get any worse, but there you go. Maybe I AM naive, expecting from you anything but evasion from tough questions.

Your awareness of our socioculturalpolitical condition equals that of the last cat image posted.

Three generatons of media manipulation has rendered our populations unable to even recognize the difference between black and white, figuratively speaking. You appear one of the few unaware of this as you consider your question valid.

If I was average I would have given up immediately as soon as I realized that FEMA was trying to present steel core columns.

 

[Arus808]

Three generatons of media manipulation has rendered our populations unable to even recognize the difference between black and white, figuratively speaking. You appear one of the few unaware of this as you consider your question valid.

Well, it surely has affected you since you are claiming that a non-existent pbs special aired in the 80's about the construction of the WTC towers when only 2 years prior, they had already made a special about the WTC towers. PBS doesn't waste money like that.

So, when are we going to expect you to file your lawsuite? You said you have evidence, that means it should be able to stand up in court. Please provide the date, and jurisidction you plan on filing.

 

[Oliver]

Your awareness of our socioculturalpolitical condition equals that of the last cat image posted.

Three generatons of media manipulation has rendered our populations unable to even recognize the difference between black and white, figuratively speaking. You appear one of the few unaware of this as you consider your question valid.

If I was average I would have given up immediately as soon as I realized that FEMA was trying to present steel core columns.

Could you make me the favor to let the slang beside?
How should i present evidence if i´m not able to understand
what your talking about?



Are you kidding? The cores were made of many pieces and
were held by bolts. So if a pressure or force to jointed parts
is strong enough, the bolts and joints will fail. And BTW: They
did NOT fail! So there were no C4 within the buildings, genius.



Are you sure there were steel colums added to the center?
Maybe there were none of these cross beams because they
needed the space for the elevators???



BS! The Towers were built to flex because the forces
of wind. So what´s your problem with that? A concrete
core would have avoided this flexibility.

Weeeeeeeeeeeell???

 

[jsfisher]

So, did you or did you not do that in an opening statement in court?

So did you or did you not produce an image from the demo of at least one of the supposed, 47, 1,300 foot steel columns in the core area, at some elevation above the ground in this thread, on jref?

If there is a statement you can attribute to me with which you have a question, please have at it. However, with respect to you and your statements...

So, did you or did you not do that in an opening statement in court?

 

[Christophera]

i have.
quite a few times:-

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/8748453c042018e89.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/87484562f3ab08d2b.jpg[/qimg]

BV

Clearly you do not know what you are looking at. Those are interior box columns, labeled as "MASSIVE BOX COLUMNS" and not inside the core area. The surround the core.

Examine the rectangles in the aerial image and you will see that they are the same proportions as the rectangles in the frames of you posted image. The single column falling has its base located in the same wall line which is around the outside of the core.

The only reason you could find one is that is the only image that might be misinterpreted as "core columns".

If such columns existed they would be seen here BIGTIME because the lower core is totally intact.

Nice try, better than text nonsense, although the image has been posted probably 5 times in this thread and explained for what it really is every time.

 

[Christophera]

If there is a statement you can attribute to me with which you have a question, please have at it. However, with respect to you and your statements...

So, did you or did you not do that in an opening statement in court?

I have never produced an opening statement in court. No evidence is recognized anywhere if I bring it.

 

[Christophera]

You said you have evidence, that means it should be able to stand up in court.

An epidemic of naivete has struck JREF. Quick, get the proctoscope.

 

[Oliver]

Your awareness of our socioculturalpolitical condition equals that of the last cat image posted.

Three generatons of media manipulation has rendered our populations unable to even recognize the difference between black and white, figuratively speaking. You appear one of the few unaware of this as you consider your question valid.

If I was average I would have given up immediately as soon as I realized that FEMA was trying to present steel core columns.

Could you make me the favor to let the slang beside?
How should i present evidence if i´m not able to understand
what your talking about?



Are you kidding? The cores were made of many pieces and
were held by bolts. So if a pressure or force to jointed parts
is strong enough, the bolts and joints will fail. And BTW: They
did NOT fail! So there were no C4 within the buildings, genius.



Are you sure there were steel colums added to the center?
Maybe there were none of these cross beams because they
needed the space for the elevators???



BS! The Towers were built to flex because the forces
of wind. So what´s your problem with that? A concrete
core would have avoided this flexibility.

Alfred? I know you´re reading so give me an answer.

 

[Christophera]

Can you give me an ETA on that? Because you haven't convinced anyone here with your 'obvious' evidence in six months.

Next time I need the advice of a psychic I'll look up the kitty in the last cat pic in this thread.

My evidence is absolute for any who know structural steel and concrete.

Debating you is no more a battle than taking candy from a retarded child is.

Be sure to kick them after you get the goods other wise they may manipulate you into providing a back rub.

 

[TellyKNeasuss]

The liars say there were 47, 1300 foot steel columns in the center of those towers, but none of then can come up with a single image of those huge steel members from the demolition images which expose the entire structure.

You were expecting that there would be 1300 foot columns remaining after the towers collapsed??? Do you think that steel is completely unbreakable?

 

[Bell]

Christophera, I don't understand how you can life with yourself. 3000 poor victims were murdered by your government. You have ALL the evidence to proof so. It is your PATRIOTIC duty to take the evidence to court. You are failing all the families of those victims. You are denying those families from justice done. Why are you denying them from justice done? Shame on you, Christophera!

Well, Christophera, hypocretera, are you going to have justice done in name of the 3000 poor victims or what? You are sitting on this evidence for atleast half a year. The longer you wait, the more the government is getting away with this conspiracy.

You are providing all of your evidence to have justice done, don't you? You want to persons responsible for killing 3000 poor victims to go to jail? Because if you do, your only option is to go to court with all of your incredible evidence. It would be criminal if you took no such action.

 

[Christophera]

Well, it surely has affected you since you are claiming that a non-existent pbs special aired in the 80's about the construction of the WTC towers when only 2 years prior, they had already made a special about the WTC towers. PBS doesn't waste money like that.

The 18 minute celebratory video you refer to was released in 1983.

The 2 hour documentary I viewed "The Construction of the Twin Towers" started production in 1987 and aired in 1990.

The videograpers explained that they applied for a grant, not necessarily from PBS for the purposes of documenting HOW the public money was spent, because the towers were so costly.

In the beginning they mentioned the 18 minute video that is still available and differentiated their intimate, techinical production from it.

From it I learned that the C4 coating on some of the rebar was exposed to bad weather over the winter months before concrete could be poured. The concrete contractor poured immediately as soon as it warmed enough for the concrete to cure, before it was determined that the "special plastic, anti vibration, anti corrosion coating" had become non viable.

The cost and delay was too great to remove the concrete so constrcution continued.

The reason the concrete was blown away from the 3" REBAR ON 4' CENTERS is because the horiziontal rebar tied to the vertical was fresh and it popped the concrete off the vertical bar seen in the linked image.

How would I know that if i hadn't seen the doc, how would I know that?