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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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Christophera said:
Your effort to misrepresent the image is not equalled by your failure to explain why no core columns are vivsble in the fore ground or in this image of the WTC 2 core in the core area where they must be seen if they existed.
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The picture you keep posting doesn't show much of anything. It is too obscured by smoke and debris to show any detail. All you can tell is that it is just a shape. And drywall can have a "rounded" appearance also.

Your image shows what appears as the hallway openings and their individual floors. The torn drywall covers the concrete wall in you image and it has all been removed in this one.this one.
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If the concrete was poured around the Box columns, why is the box column infront of the wall?
Also the picture I posted was taken after the picture you are posting. You can tell by the amount of debris in the foreground that has been removed.


You seem to have alot of self-worth worked up in this idea of yours. It's skewing your thinking. It does not make you less of a person to admit your wrong when the evidence is overwhelmingly against you. It makes you less of a person to cling to an idea that is overwhelmingly and obviously wrong.

Are you familiar with the story of Don Quixote?
 
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Chris,

OK, you've presented all the evidence you have of the South tower's alleged concrete core. Now, show me the North tower's concrete core, standing at elevation, from the demo images. Since that is the only evidence you will accept from us regarding the core columns, you should of course hold yourself to the same standards.

So, where are images of the North tower's concrete core, standing at elevation, from the demo images?
 
mortimer said:
Chris,

OK, you've presented all the evidence you have of the South tower's alleged concrete core. Now, show me the North tower's concrete core, standing at elevation, from the demo images. Since that is the only evidence you will accept from us regarding the core columns, you should of course hold yourself to the same standards.

So, where are images of the North tower's concrete core, standing at elevation, from the demo images?
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He does not believe in god, Mortimer. And you
can´t change a 57 year old man... :rolleyes:
 
Oliver said:
He does not believe in god, Mortimer. And you
can´t change a 57 year old man... :rolleyes:
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He's also admitted to not being here to debate but rather preach. He's not interested in having his ideas challenged. He just want to get his message out.

Judging from the disclosures about his personal life, he seems to have alot of his self-worth tied up in his crusade. He'd rather do this than deal with his problems. Much like an addict runs and withdraws from his/her life.
 
uruk said:
He's also admitted to not being here to debate but rather preach. He's not interested in having his ideas challenged. He just want to get his message out.

Judging from the disclosures about his personal life, he seems to have alot of his self-worth tied up in his crusade. He'd rather do this than deal with his problems. Much like an addict runs and withdraws from his/her life.
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Somehow it´s just sad. :( But what is Belz´s reason
to talk to a wall? Another preacher? Or a Sock-Puppet? :confused:
 
Chris, would you care to point out where in this video the concrete core is? The collapse starts at approximately 01:20. Can you tell me at what time was the still standing concrete core detonated?
 
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Powa said:
Chris, would you care to point out where in this video is the concrete core? The collapse starts at approximately 01:20. Can you tell me at what time was the still standing concrete core detonated?
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OH GOD! :eek: Another 100 pages question... :D
 
Christophera - your sarcasm detectors are malfunctioning, I suggest you have a rest and a nice cup of tea ;)
 
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Belz... said:
Gosh...

How many people were still in WTC2 when it collapsed, anyway ?
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from wikipedia:

There were 2,973 fatalities: 246 on the four planes (no one on board any of the hijacked aircraft survived), 2,602 in New York City in the towers and on the ground, and 125 at the Pentagon. Among the fatalities were 343 New York City Fire Department firefighters, 23 New York City Police Department officers, and 37 Port Authority police officers. An additional 24 people remain listed as missing.

World Trade Center - 1366 people died who were at or above the floors of impact in the North Tower (1 WTC); according to the Commission Report, hundreds were killed instantly by the impact while the rest were trapped and died later.

As many as 600 people were killed instantly or trapped at or above the floors of impact in the South Tower (2 WTC). Only about 18 managed to escape in time from above the impact zone and out of the South Tower before it collapsed.

An estimated 200 people jumped to their deaths from the burning towers (as depicted in the photograph "The Falling Man"), landing on the streets and rooftops of adjacent buildings hundreds of feet below. To witnesses watching, a few of the people falling from the towers seemed to have stumbled out of broken windows. Some of the occupants of each tower above its point of impact made their way upward toward the roof in hope of helicopter rescue, however; no rescue plan existed for such an eventuality, the roof access doors were locked and thick smoke and intense heat would have prevented rescue helicopters from landing
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Smiffy said:
Yeah, Oliver! Get with the program! I've read up to page 62 now so even I was aware of this little gem, along with "algebraic assimilation" (don't ask!)...
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You are reading this whole stuff? :confused:

I mean there is no "brain-damage" warning within
this trash-dump. I hope you are aware of this fact. :D
 
Belz... said:
Chris, why don't you comment about this picture, showing SMOKE and DUST, not concrete, mere seconds away from YOUR picture ?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_60804549e5c54133b.jpg
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Why, they blew the core up of course!
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uruk said:
The picture you keep posting doesn't show much of anything. It is too obscured by smoke and debris to show any detail. All you can tell is that it is just a shape. And drywall can have a "rounded" appearance also.
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Under the conditions present where the WTC 2 core is, drywall would no even exist. It would be stripped away immediately.

uruk said:
If the concrete was poured around the Box columns, why is the box column infront of the wall?
Also the picture I posted was taken after the picture you are posting. You can tell by the amount of debris in the foreground that has been removed.
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There is far less debris around the stair/wall/column in my image of the core wall at its base than your, so I it clear that you have it backwards.

uruk said:
You seem to have alot of self-worth worked up in this idea of yours. It's skewing your thinking. It does not make you less of a person to admit your wrong when the evidence is overwhelmingly against you. It makes you less of a person to cling to an idea that is overwhelmingly and obviously wrong.

Are you familiar with the story of Don Quixote?
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Overwhelming opposition and odds to not equate to overwhelming evidence. You would like to think it does, it does not. Clearly, if I have enough raw evidence of images to make a site just about the concrete core,

http://algoxy.com/conc/core.html

which also proves there were no steel core columns, and am still here, my sense of self worth exceeds yours by the factors of evidence I have plus the numbers I oppose.

There is no site using raw evidence to substantiate the steel core columns because there is no raw evidence to construct it from. This is why all the sites that claim steel core columns use diagrams or a pair of misrepresented images.
 
Powa said:
Chris, would you care to point out where in this video the concrete core is? The collapse starts at approximately 01:20. Can you tell me at what time was the still standing concrete core detonated?
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This link will answer your question.

http://algoxy.com/psych/9-11scenario.html#anchor1232703

The floor detonations caused enough covering debris to obliterate views of the core. The concrete core explosions themselves are actually fairly obvious when floors are not involved.
 
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