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Jessicarabbit said:
I don't agree with everything killtown says but at least he does research. He doesn't sit on his arse parroting the official story.
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Sure, if you consider MS Paint and shoddy math "research".

Jessicarabbit said:
I don't have to provide a suspect.
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WHAT?! So who the hell murdered 3,000 people!?!?! You don't have to say?? Is it not important enough for you? You're farkin' unbeLIEVable!!

::: clears throat :::

YES. YOU. DO.

C'mon Jess, pony up. You got all this evidence. ... whodunit?
 
realitybites said:
Brilliant. Let's do this. I'm pumped.

Let the truthing begin.
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I'm still waiting for a response, and hope that I'll hear from Russell soon. I can hardly wait to get started. I can't imagine that he'd turn down such a generous offer, particularly since the truth movement continuously cites a lack of resources as the reason for not going forward with their evidence, etc.

I'm offering to do it all for free, provide tapes and transcripts, and present it all to a DA. It doesn't get much better than that, does it?

It's all about the truth, after all.
 
The thing that pretty much clinched it for me was the constant declaration of "straw man"...Docker did that quite frequently.
 
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The thing that pretty much clinched it for me was the constant declaration of "straw man"...Docker did that constantly.
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I thought the hundred post per day average, combined with the blatantly stupid name and avatar, and the same old nonsensical posts were the giveaway. But that's just me :)

ETA: Time to revive the "countdown to the next Socker thread" thread?

(yes, that was deliberate)
 
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W6102LA said:
I have just one question for Russell...

What evidence convinced you that a plane did crash into the Pentagon ?
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The final tipping of the scale for me was eyewitness testimony in DC. We essentially went door to door in the flight path to homes and businesses and found many witnesses that had never made a statement.

Preceding that it was the notion that evidence/damage had been faked.
 
Russell Pickering said:
The final tipping of the scale for me was eyewitness testimony in DC. We essentially went door to door in the flight path to homes and businesses and found many witnesses that had never made a statement.

Preceding that it was the notion that evidence/damage had been faked.
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You did great research Russell. I wish there was some way we could get together someday, trade notes and talk about interviews etc.

As I'm sure you know many people don't like to have their comments public.
 
Russ is siding with emotion instead of evidence

Russell Pickering said:
One of the Special Agents that detained us in DC thought my site was "interesting".
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Holocaust Denial websites are interesting. Scooping my cat's litter is interesting. Russ, I read a lot of conspiracy material that is interesting. Being interesting doesn't change a kookburger theory into something credible.

Russell Pickering said:
Gravy,

You let me choose my friends and I'll decide the difference between mistakes of youth and what I find forgivable OK?

But if somebody supports the cover up of anything regarding 9/11 - even if it is because of "incompetence", while 3.45 US soldiers die every day last month and innocent citizens of the Middle East are murdered with 9/11 and the "war on terror" as a justification, you are not my people.

Russell
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Do you find LC's errors forgivable because they were attacks against the government? Is it okay to intentionally leave errors in a video designed to expose a conspiracy that murdered 3,000 and is dedicated to the victims as long the government is blamed? If you have an attitude of throwing sh** at the wall and seeing what sticks, you are prosecuting instead of investigating.

Russell Pickering said:
1) 40 some firefighter witnesses.
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Were they using descriptive similes? How many of them have experience working with explosive devices and actually saw some in the WTC versus hearing a loud noise?

Russell Pickering said:
2) Video of squibs similar to CD.
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If a building contains a huge volume of air, what happens when tons of floor come crashing down on the floor below it? Where does that air go?

Russell Pickering said:
3) 3 steel frame buildings that collapsed straight down all on the same day in the same place for the first time in history. At least one not hit by a plane.
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Russ, what is your point? Are you saying that the buildings should have tipped over if it wasn't a controlled demolition? Why do you mention that WTC 7 wasn't hit by an airplane? No one has said that it was. Are you trying to mislead people by leaving out the huge gash caused by debris from the collapsing WTC towers? What about the massive amount of diesel fuel stored in WTC 7 for generators?

Russell Pickering said:
4) Civilian eyewitnesses who reported explosions.
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And? Explosions do not necessarily equal explosives.

Russ, it isn't about which side you're on. It's about the truth. The 3,000 dead, their families, and the survivors deserve better than a free DVD filled with bootleg material and deliberate lies. They deserve the truth.

They don't deserve crackpot theories espoused by a man that believes we didn't land on the moon, originally thought JFK was shot by his limo driver, and struggled for the longest time in trying to understand that steel doesn't have to melt for a building to collapse. They deserve the truth.
 
Russell Pickering said:
The final tipping of the scale for me was eyewitness testimony in DC. We essentially went door to door in the flight path to homes and businesses and found many witnesses that had never made a statement.

Preceding that it was the notion that evidence/damage had been faked.
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I may be misremembering, and if so I apologize -- but I thought you believed Flight 77 did hit the Pentagon.

What could these unknown witnesses have said that was so convincing to you?
 
R.Mackey said:
I may be misremembering, and if so I apologize -- but I thought you believed Flight 77 did hit the Pentagon.

What could these unknown witnesses have said that was so convincing to you?
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I do believe a 757 hit the Pentagon.

I never took a stand on it until after my DC visit though.
 
Russell Pickering said:
I do believe a 757 hit the Pentagon.

I never took a stand on it until after my DC visit though.
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OK, I'm with you, I was just being slow. Sorry.

What other turning points did you experience? In particular, ones that convinced you of things contrary to 9-11 Commission / NIST?
 
Russell Pickering said:
The final tipping of the scale for me was eyewitness testimony in DC. We essentially went door to door in the flight path to homes and businesses and found many witnesses that had never made a statement.

Preceding that it was the notion that evidence/damage had been faked.
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Are you saying that the vast amounts of already available photographic evidence and witness statements weren't enough to make an informed decision as to Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon?

Why did you believe that the huge amount of evidence/damage proving Flight 77 hit the Pentagon was faked?
 
Russell Pickering said:
The final tipping of the scale for me was eyewitness testimony in DC. We essentially went door to door in the flight path to homes and businesses and found many witnesses that had never made a statement.

Preceding that it was the notion that evidence/damage had been faked.
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Thanks Russ, i suspected that was the case. May i suggest you try the same approach with reguard to WTC7 just like Gravy has done.

cheers
 
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