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[Arus808]

"How many chances should they be given to do basic fact-checking, Russell? "

Gravy,

How many shots does the 9/11 Commission, FEMA and Nist need at WTC 7?

Russell

I dont know why you are calling it shots, when investigation of the wtc 7 collapse is ongoing.

Sounds like they are still at shot number 1.


Why couldn't the lc guys do all the fact checking in one shot?

 

[Moving On]

Since neither you nor anyone else has demonstrated the slightest USG MIHOP or LIHOP connection, or that any of us debunkers has supported people involved in the attacks of 9/11, your words are completely hollow.

Russell, Islamist terrorists attacked the US on 9/11. I know it's impossible for you to accept, but it happened, right here in the real world. I oppose them and I oppose the people who claim that didn't happen, but who can't be bothered to prove their claims.

Yours is a religious faith. It is not based in reality.

Which report were you clutching to your breast when you said that?

The comic book version of the 9/11 Commission report?

 

[jessicarabbit]

"How many chances should they be given to do basic fact-checking, Russell? "

Gravy,

How many shots does the 9/11 Commission, FEMA and Nist need at WTC 7?

Russell

To qoute an anonymous source:

"Loose change adapts the film in light of new information, the government changes its story when the public no longer believes it"

 

[Gravy]

Gravy why are you using rule 14 of the disinfo handbook?

The crime does not have to be fully solved to question the integrity of current evidence.

When an innocent man is released on new evidence, that evidence does not have to include a new suspect.

New evidence? You say you have calculations that prove that the calculations "our side" uses are wrong.

Since you refuse to advance our knowledge by presenting them, I say you're lying, as you have lied about so many things here.

Why do you constantly lie, jessicarabbit? Is it that you cannot, or will not stop?

 

[Moving On]

I dont know why you are calling it shots, when investigation of the wtc 7 collapse is ongoing.

Sounds like they are still at shot number 1.


Why couldn't the lc guys do all the fact checking in one shot?

Ummmmmmmm......I think you got me.



Oh wait no. Because new stuff and new people are coming forward every day!!

WOW!

 

[Gravy]

Which report were you clutching to your breast when you said that?

The comic book version of the 9/11 Commission report?

http://www.pentagonresearch.com/images/comic1.jpg

I'm perfectly willing to debate the evidence, Russell. When will you provide some that proves any of your claims?

 

[Arus808]

Its amazing they say dylan accuses people without evidence. They accuse dylan of making profits yet they provide no evidence. I have challenged them to produce a profit and loss analysis but they refuse. Bizarre.

there are quotes by him (google it yourself ) of him stating how much money he wants to make off of loose change; him bragging about nameless hollywood studios want to pay "six figures" for Loose Change.

He spent $6000 to make his first version. who knows what he spent on versions 2 and 3. all the while making money from his tshirts sales and dvd sales (dvd, to which taht had copyrighted footage from the naudet film for which the naudets probably haven't been paid). What was his claim? over 200,000 copies of Loose Change were sold?

 

[jessicarabbit]

New evidence? You say you have calculations that prove that the calculations "our side" uses are wrong.

Since you refuse to advance our knowledge by presenting them, I say you're lying, as you have lied about so many things here.

Why do you constantly lie, jessicarabbit? Is it that you cannot, or will not stop?

Would you care to answer why you are suggesting we need to fully solve the crime and present new suspects?

 

[Arus808]

The strongest part of LC will be the interviews. Imagine all the film goers watching broken men describe ho they were bombed to kingdom come in the towers, then became ill, then were dismissed by the government.

the only interviews that would make LC strong would be the interviews by known experts and those who were there that day, along with the members of hte investigating teams, members of the fire department, members of the port authority.

From their trailers thus far, I haven' seen one expert, scientist, engineer, nor firsthand witness being interviewed. They featured a kook conspiracy theorist and crackpot lady at a bar....

Yes, the strongest part will be on the interviews...TAHT IS who they interview will make a break LC.

 

[jessicarabbit]

Ok in our imaginary district attorney encounter I would like to introduce my first piece of evidence.....

 

[Gravy]

Would you care to answer why you are suggesting we need to fully solve the crime and present new suspects?

I asked you to present your best evidence that anyone not already named was involved in the attacks of 9/11.

Whenever you're ready, jessicarabbit.

And have you given any thought to why you constantly lie?

 

[Mince]

Its amazing they say dylan accuses people without evidence. They accuse dylan of making profits yet they provide no evidence. I have challenged them to produce a profit and loss analysis but they refuse. Bizarre.

You know that "profiting" is more than a financial term, don't you? Gaining popularity is also a profit. If nothing, Avery has gained much popularity since 9/11. This is demonstrable. And I find it difficult to believe he has not profited financially due to this increased popularity. Even in the absence of empirical evidence, logical deduction is very persuasive.

But, o.k. I'll play along. Let's ask Avery to give us an honest assessment of his earnings before and after 9/11. That should settle the issue.

 

[Arus808]

Ummmmmmmm......I think you got me.



Oh wait no. Because new stuff and new people are coming forward every day!!

WOW!

what new people? lookst like the NIST's prelim report supports what has been claimed all along.

Name a new person who came forward that isn't delusional or been subjected to conspiracy kooks claims?

 

[apathoid]

Gravy,

You let me choose my friends and I'll decide the difference between mistakes of youth and what I find forgivable OK?

But if somebody supports the cover up of anything regarding 9/11 - even if it is because of "incompetence", while 3.45 US soldiers die every day last month and innocent citizens of the Middle East are murdered with 9/11 and the "war on terror" as a justification, you are not my people.

Russell

I dont think anyone here supports covering for murderers(from either side) Russ, nor are we covering for incompetant, moronic leadership.

And its not "incompetence" - its incompetenace, and it's ever present in the USG. C'mon Russ, you were in the military! Finally, many of us do not support the current administration, or the war in Iraq. In case you hadn't noticed, about half the skeptics here aren't even American. Please don't make this an us vs. them affair. You are after the truth - no matter what form it may take, you should be dispassionate in your efforts to find it.

For the record, I too find it disheartening that you consider Killtown a friend. Does he posess any positive qualities that I'm not aware of?

 

[jessicarabbit]

I asked you to present your best evidence that anyone not already named was involved in the attacks of 9/11.

Whenever you're ready, jessicarabbit.

And have you given any thought to why you constantly lie?

Check the FBI website. When you show me some hard evidence of OBLs involvement I will convert to your church and become a jref gravy groupie.

 

[Moving On]

there are quotes by him (google it yourself ) of him stating how much money he wants to make off of loose change; him bragging about nameless hollywood studios want to pay "six figures" for Loose Change.

He spent $6000 to make his first version. who knows what he spent on versions 2 and 3. all the while making money from his tshirts sales and dvd sales (dvd, to which taht had copyrighted footage from the naudet film for which the naudets probably haven't been paid). What was his claim? over 200,000 copies of Loose Change were sold?

United 93 gross - $31.4 million domestically, and $73.5 million worldwide (10% of the first 3 days donated).

World Trade Center - Worldwide Gross $132,236,496

 

[Moving On]

For the record, I too find it disheartening that you consider Killtown a friend. Does he posess any positive qualities that I'm not aware of?

We disagree STRONGLY on 9/11. My interactions with him have always been positive. He has never insulted me on a single occasion as the people have done here profusely.

 

[Mince]

Would you care to answer why you are suggesting we need to fully solve the crime and present new suspects?

BECAUSE YOU ARE GRATUITOUSLY ACCUSING PEOPLE (YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO) OF 2,700 PLUS COUNTS OF THE WORST CRIME KNOWN TO HUMANKIND!


Yes, I do expect you to fully solve the crime. I can be really demanding that way.



(Damnit, you made me type in all caps. Curse you)

 

[jessicarabbit]

We disagree STRONGLY on 9/11. My interactions with him have always been positive. He has never insulted me on a single occasion as the people have done here profusely.

I don't agree with everything killtown says but at least he does research. He doesn't sit on his arse parroting the official story.

 

[Moving On]

BECAUSE YOU ARE GRATUITOUSLY ACCUSING PEOPLE (YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO) OF 2,700 PLUS COUNTS OF THE WORST CRIME KNOWN TO HUMANKIND!


Yes, I do expect you to fully solve the crime. I can be really demanding that way.



(Damnit, you made me type in all caps. Curse you)

Leading a nation to war under false pretense that resulted in the deaths of over 3000 soldiers (so far) and thousands of foreign citizens (some innocent) is called.......................