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Anomolies at ground zero

celestrin said:
It all makes sense now. How did we not see it before? 9/11 perps must be Jesse "The Body" Ventura, "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, "Macho Man" Randy Savage, Andre "The Giant" and "Ravishing" Rick Rude! The Real American hero Hogan must've been hot on their trail and they dusted off the old Death Star Beam Machine and decided to pay him a little visit. I mean, pfff, how could a wrestler become a governor without threatening every citizen with a DSBM. Without a DSBM, that's just as ludicrous as, say, a bodybuilder becoming a head of state, or, say, an actor a head of nation. That's impossible.
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you forget hogans well-documentaed conenction to the NWO
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celestrin said:
Can't say much about the half burned police cars, except that the elevated highway looks like South Street, just a bit to the East of the Manhattan Bridge to me. 40deg 42' 36"N, 73deg 59' 28"W. The red building in the background is the powerplant in Brooklyn with large chimneys, while the blue building are some, I guess, hangars at the NY Harbour. But keep in mind that the closest I've ever been to NY is about 4000 miles :)
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I am positive the pd car is under the FDR.
 
Table 3:
Lethality of Weapons
Weapon
Yield
(metric tons HE)

Lethal area (km2)c
1-ton high explosive
1.0

~10-3
MTF device (0.5-2.5t)a
~1

~10-3 (blast)
0.03-0.8 (neutrons)b
300 kg Sarin warhead on Scud
-

0.22
Hiroshima-type bomb
~15,000

~7
Source: Jones and von Hippel 1998, Table 3, p. 15.

a. Fusion yield (0.2-2.2t) plus yield from high explosive (0.3t) = 0.5-2.5t
b. 4.5 Gray dose
c. The area given is that of a circle centered at ground zero for which, for uniform population density, the number of people surviving within would be equal to the number killed outside.
 
yes but isnt the FDR west of a park on the Lower East Side?

The car is apart of the 5th precinct. Evidence that it is ver vell down town and if so, I would be wrong about it being in the 70's
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pct/pro005.html

Other non damaged police vehicles are in the picture indicatin a police station is nearby.

I think the 5th Precinct is right under the Delancy street bridge. I park there every week. It is possible for it to be under the FDR near by.
 
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firecoins said:
yes but isnt the FDR west of a park on the Lower East Side?

The car is apart of the 5th precinct. Evidence that it is ver vell down town and if so, I would be wrong about it being in the 70's
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/pct/pro005.html

Other non damaged police vehicles are in the picture indicatin a police station is nearby.

I think the 5th Precinct is right under the Delancy street bridge. I park there every week. It is possible for it to be under the FDR near by.
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It runs west of a park around the Williamsburg Bridge. Further south however, it runs right along the edge of Manhattan.
 
kookbreaker said:
Because while steel is a decent conductor of heat, it is not magic. Eventually the amount of energy transmitted through a column will not be anywhere near enough comparied to the energy being brought in via the fire.

Your iron stove has the advantage of being surrounded on all sides by cooling air.



And your engineering/fire analysis/ degree is what exactly?
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Have you seen the ridiculous tests done by NIST on the fireproofing? A shotgun fired at a square of steel. How scientific.
 
Don't ask my why I refer to the Williamsburg bridge as the Delancey Street brigde! Just because the Delancey street runs on to it doesn't mean that its name! :confused:
 
Docker said:
Have you seen the ridiculous tests done by NIST on the fireproofing? A shotgun fired at a square of steel. How scientific.
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Would you prefer they fly a plane into a building to test the resilience of the fire-proofing?

And didn't you start this thread to express your bewilderment over burned cars? Please comment on the myriad explanations given to you.
 
Docker said:
I wouldn't. Where is your evidence that the two air planes turned into shotgun pellets and removed the fireproofing?
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Obviously they had similar characteristics (were you assuming they used the same scale?) or they wouldn't have done it.
 
There would have been a significantly higher ground zero lethal area if ANY thermonuclear (TND) was used. Fairly simple math...

On the "burned" cars, yes, cars next too/below falling + burning debris tend to burn and then cascade burn as all the fuel in each car burns/fuel tanks rupture/melt and more fuel flows under other cars/trucks etc... very simple explination.

lh p.s. let's start a thread about electric cars! they are not so "messy"!
 
firecoins said:
raming a 767 at 490 or 590 mph was too expensive I guess.
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are you claiming we should accept the results of a test involving a plywood box, a flat square of stee and 18 shot gun blasts? None of which have anything to do with the world trade center.
 
Garb said:
Obviously they had similar characteristics (were you assuming they used the same scale?) or they wouldn't have done it.
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Name one similer characteristic. The steel wasn't square, it wasn't in a plywood box and mohammed atta didn't have a shotgun. It's junk science, used because they haven't got a clue why the builings collapsed
 
Docker said:
I wouldn't. Where is your evidence that the two air planes turned into shotgun pellets and removed the fireproofing?
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So in order to satisfy your strict guidlelines for accurate reconstruction, the towers should've been rebuilt and fireproofed, NIST should've gotten a hold of Acme's Commercial Airline Zoom-Zoom Remote Control from Cheney's office, and just recreated the entire event.

.... Sounds reasonable.
 
Docker said:
Name one similer characteristic. The steel wasn't square, it wasn't in a plywood box and mohammed atta didn't have a shotgun. It's junk science, used because they haven't got a clue why the builings collapsed
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Weren't they testing the fireproofing and it's ability to stay "fireproof" to a certain force?
 
Docker said:
I wouldn't. Where is your evidence that the two air planes turned into shotgun pellets and removed the fireproofing?
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How dense are you? They were experimenting to estimate the amount of force that would be required to remove the fireproofing from the steel.

Shotgun pellets against a square of steel is a scaled down version of 767 debris traveling at 500+ miles per hour through a skyscraper.
 
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