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Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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You are supporting lawlessness.

Appeal to emotions. That, and the fact that you only have arguments from ignorance on your side, I'd say this case is pretty much closed.

When you say this and do not post the image link you are being lame.

Just check 1 out of 4 of Gravy's posts. You'll see it eventually.

I have proof no steel core columns existed and the same documentary that showed me the concrete core also gave me all teh clues I need

If only you could produce this mysterious documentary.

to assemble the only web site on the planet that actually provides a feasible and realistic explanation for near free fall and total pulverizaton.

Again with that "total pulverisation" bull. Didn't you see the big chunks of concrete I pointed to ?

Do you realize how stupid what you have said sounds when looking at this image?

A column of black stuff engulfed in thick smoke ?

The structure stood for 33 years with its stored gravity equal to 248 tons of TNT. The impacts did not bring the towers down and the fires were not hot enough to bring them down.

Oh, a new claim. Why do you think they were insufficient to bring the towers down ?

Don't try to argue it because that will not be reasonable.

Debating is unreasonable ? I guess that's why you're just spamming, then.

Here is the rebar where some explosives failed and others did the job of removing the concrete leaving the vertical reinforcing bar.

Ah, yes. The 1 pixel wide 500 meters away rebar.
 
The other truth seekers just do not know what I know. If they did, they would be right here with me, well some, the ones with courage.
"Right here with [you]," posting on a little Internet discussion board only read by a couple hundred people? Wow, your bravery knows no limits.

You are deluded, if the legal system of checks an balances cannot work, I refer to the destruction of evidence in capitol crimes and the inactivity of checks and balances, you cannot propose that the sociocultural systems are going to be more functional.
So instead you post on a little Internet discussion board only read by a couple hundred people. Wow, your dedication to spreading the word far and wide knows no limits.
 
"Right here with [you]," posting on a little Internet discussion board only read by a couple hundred people? Wow, your bravery knows no limits.

So instead you post on a little Internet discussion board only read by a couple hundred people. Wow, your dedication to spreading the word far and wide knows no limits.

Hey - it's thousands of people that read this forum!

:)
 
aggh. alright guys, there is just no point already. Christophera has shown that he is a thick as 7' concrete on this subject and is being purposefully obtuse about "learning the truth". He wont budge from his stance, and this thread is only serving as a vehicle to drive traffic to his 1000 times spammed website.

Please, just let this thread die. He isn't going to change his mind, and instead of encouragin him, we should just ignore him and hope that he seeks the medical attention that he so desperately needs.
 
Some in the UK still think the WTC tower core was built as shown below. Basically a pre-stressed concrete design. Yamasaki had reviewed the design, and found no contractor that could build a 1,300 foot column of that design. We all know the towers had their stairwells and elevators inside the core. There is no room for that in the core below.

Prestressed? So, like, you mean a precast concrete core assembled on site? I think you actually mean reinforced concrete. Possibly even post-tensioned reinforced concrete. But certainly not prestressed. Trust me! :D
 
How exactly did you come to that conclusion based on this:

Where exactly did I say they weren't inside the core ? THEY WERE THE CORE.

All you need to do now is show that the horizontal bracing existed in the core area.

I can show that floor beams connected the interior box columns together, but they are outside the core.

 
Prestressed? So, like, you mean a precast concrete core assembled on site? I think you actually mean reinforced concrete. Possibly even post-tensioned reinforced concrete. But certainly not prestressed. Trust me! :D

You are focusing on information that is already determined as inconsequential and erroneous. Wht do that when there is plenty of raw evidence for the steel reinforced concrete tubular core. For example, here is the concrete shear wall of the core holding up the spire formed of an interio box column.
 
Christophera, if you show me those stupid pictures one more time, I am liable to shoot myself...
 
aggh. alright guys, there is just no point already. Christophera has shown that he is a thick as 7' concrete on this subject and is being purposefully obtuse about "learning the truth". He wont budge from his stance, and this thread is only serving as a vehicle to drive traffic to his 1000 times spammed website.

Please, just let this thread die. He isn't going to change his mind, and instead of encouragin him, we should just ignore him and hope that he seeks the medical attention that he so desperately needs.

I have evidence, why should I change anything in what I'm doing?

You do not have evidence for the steel core columns you almost never mention (do we wonder why?)

I have actually used my evidence to construct a web site that fully explains the WTC towers as they actually stood and my evidence is from images of THEM coming apart.

Seeing as there is no raw evidence for the steel core columns, I am not surprised that no one has built a web site dedicated to documenting them. How embarassing for you.
 
Christophera, if you show me those stupid pictures one more time, I am liable to shoot myself...

Don't do it. Seek the medical care you so desparetly need,

As I've said before, it is not fun being an mkultra victim when the evidence for the concrete core shows up.

Major cognitive dissonance WILL occur. Repeated efforts to dissociate can be very disturbing. I would suggest that you join with the other posters here that say "NO CONCRETE" ad file a class action lawsuit gainst the CIA for destroying the mkultra documents in 1972.
 
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Been youtube'n found some vids. Maybe they'll help but I doubt it.
A couple of the vids are from CTr's One is even from Dylan so they're going to have some silly stuff in there. But they all agree on the core layout.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE7z4gNh5q4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOD4jJzxgcE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJTbsd9lajo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ryi3fXyKgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiJUXNM75hI
(cters vid, Dylan's I think)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3qIKVRT4tU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCgPCcIxHNw
(docu-drama follow this docu-drama, it mentions the people who escaped the elevator via digging through drywall)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsm7dKRUeqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO4eDv0Y4bo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxJMP1jKy5Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-UZoNqluFs
(* discovery channel doc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ11i6fi7KQ
(A ctr's anim. has BS about CD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExmSMU9ls-w
(another ctr has some silly idea about core remaining intact and suggests nukes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKxoC4_T-GA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffx0Tn2wHAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jhRIkezRZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2yhWJrMIZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUU-_toZooE
(pbs docu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIqf-AKJMKI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XImfLnBbBFQ
(steel at 700 degrees)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vhrt4G3dxzI
(part one of 12 history channel docu)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALhkL7HoFZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fnw_et1ka4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JY1u6-68eLw
(eerie, showing first 24 hours after the fall)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzJba52bcsc
(about wtc7)
Sorry if some are repeats.
Still lookin' post more when i find.
 
I have evidence, why should I change anything in what I'm doing?

You do not have evidence for the steel core columns you almost never mention (do we wonder why?)

Seeing as there is no raw evidence for the steel core columns, I am not surprised that no one has built a web site dedicated to documenting them. How embarassing for you.

Steel core columns, no concrete



and more steel columns no concrete



the only rebar is in the floors, and all your photos and your web site show the same!
 
can we be done with the concrete core b.s. already? It was a steel core building before 9/11 and became a concrete core after its destruction. Weird!:confused:
 
Truth, and its function to protect life know no limits.

how can you be so challenged when it comes to research?

your own photos prove you are telling lies, you use a mistake on a tv show documentary to base your fantasy on

you post a web site full of really dumb conclusions yet the underlying facts disprove your own assertions

You post this tripe in May on another blog and you still think you have something

it has been FIVE years and you still can not figure out how the WTC was constructed, have you failed to achieve what most 5th graders have, a usable mind? (that is a question)
 
can we be done with the concrete core b.s. already? It was a steel core building before 9/11 and became a concrete core after its destruction. Weird!:confused:

Please don't make him show the pictures again... :(
 
can we be done with the concrete core b.s. already? It was a steel core building before 9/11 and became a concrete core after its destruction. Weird!:confused:

it is ironic you can find all you need to debunk CT 9/11 truth from other 9/11 truth sites!

The photos from 9/11 truth sites are used to debunk other sites, each site incapable of research to back their pre-conceived conclusions they made up, then find junk to support the conclusion as did Dr Thermite Jones.

Ironic as the name they take 9/11 truth movement.
 
Just checking in. How's it going.

no concrete core just steel columns!

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no concrete core, just steel columns, as you can see steel column core, the floor, and the sides.

guess your super web site will have to be revised, the story you have was wrong as you can see,

no rebar except on the floors, there is rebar size rods in the floor, those are the things all ripped up in your photos of no concrete core just steel core you keep posting over and over again!


Yes, there was no structural concrete other that that used in the foundation and the floor pans.

The concrete in the floors was estimated at around 3 million pounds per level, which may explain why the pancake theory for the collapses was trotted out in less than a week.

But then, it failed to explain why the walls and central column failed as observed, so a few more attempts were made.

If it wasn't for the collapse speeds being so similar, despite the differences in the applied forces and initiations, I probably wouldn't have a lot of trouble wrapping my mind around the official explanations.

As many people saw, the upper 35 floors of the South Tower tilted to over twenty degrees, an event which should have continued and broken through the damaged central core. Instead of toppling over, all four walls suddenly began to collapse, carrying the upper section straight down, as though it was on an express elevator. The core could occassionally be seen through the smoke and dust, but only long enough to see it crumble as well.

These core columns were three feet by one foot, and over two inches thick; and there were 47 of them in each tower, so anything that could damage them that thoroughly is pretty impressive.

The dust cloud generated was also amazing. Apparently the concrete in the floor pans was being pulverized as the building fell, not when it hit the ground. That whole process was over in less than ten seconds. I think FEMA had it clocked at 8.5 seconds. I'll have to look that up again. It works out to over 7 floors per second, starting at the collapse point.

The North Tower collapse was even more amazing, because it began around the 100th floor. I watched a few different videos several times, and each time, just as the antenna mast sank into the roof, the area around the 100th floor began to compress, and then that whole section just came straight down, tossing sections of steel wall out in all directions.

It was like the wall were made out of particle board. I would have expected the upper 10 floors to be destroyed by the impact at the same rate as the rest of the structure, but it just kept rumbling down. I guess the equal and opposite reaction thing doesn't apply for collapsing buildings.

If the steel hadn't been rushed off to Asia without a thorough forensic analysis, the government would look so suspicious.

So I can see why a lot of people around the world are continuing to ask questions and call for further investigations. I'm also not surprised that they don't want the investigations to be run by the Bush Administration.

As for the question about why so many physicists and engineers are going along with whatever the official story of the month is, just consider how important it is for universities and corporations to be on the good side of government. Endowments and contracts are not easy things to come by.

Oh, and nice job on this thread. Over 150 pages. That's more than they have on Colbert's blog.
 
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