Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

[beachnut]

I´m sorry, you´re right. It´s important evidence to support the Jellyfish-conspiracy.

more important may be when I can post sick jelly fish dish photos; okay some make like the jelly fish dish for dinner, and it could be the jelly fish has more backbone then Alex the Jelly Fish from Davy Jones, yet, how many post does it take to make the jpg dance

 

[beachnut]

I witnessed the construction of the concrete core by watching a 2 hour documentary that aired on channel 10, KCET in southern California in 1990. Over an hour of it was basically about the concrete core becuase it was the real challenge in the construction, It was called "The Construction of the Twin Towers". I've been a welder for 35 years and worked as a survey for a civil engineer for 20 years often doing layout for concrete contractors. I've also worked with high explosives doing above ground blasting. Also, operated heavy equipment on demo projects.

What is your experience and sources of information?

you got the wrong show, the WTC still had no core of concrete, just steel and wallboard

 

[Oliver]

more important may be when I can post sick jelly fish dish photos; okay some make like the jelly fish dish for dinner, and it could be the jelly fish has more backbone then Alex the Jelly Fish from Davy Jones, yet, how many post does it take to make the jpg dance

No no no, Alex Jones does have more Backbone like the Jellyfish but only for one reason - to hold the bullhorn. But on the other hand you´re right.

You mean Jelly-Fish-Dish like this?

 

[beachnut]

No no no, Alex Jones does have more Backbone like the Jellyfish but only for one reason - to hold the bullhorn. But on the other hand you´re right.

You mean Jelly-Fish-Dish like this?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/JellyfishMeal.JPG/800px-JellyfishMeal.JPG

yes

the bullhorn, the great speeches from the bullhorn, why do I have the feeling someone is going to punch out Alex Jones next time he insults the wrong person, or does he only pick on small people?

i can look up the terms to figure when my photos will be allowed

 

[Oliver]

yes

the bullhorn, the great speeches from the bullhorn, why do I have the feeling someone is going to punch out Alex Jones next time he insults the wrong person, or does he only pick on small people?

i can look up the terms to figure when my photos will be allowed

Okay, take a look up to the terms of our evidence. I guess no one will kick or punch Alex Jones. Since 9/11 he has a black dressed smurf-brigade protecting him.

 

[beachnut]

Do you realize how stupid what you have said sounds when looking at this image?

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I said there is a steel core covered in wall board, just the truth

you say you believe a tin foil hat site that can not even read or understand the references it cites that do not support what they say, because they must be thinking the 4 inch concrete floors on the steel pan floors are part of the core or something. Your web site is not a very good source of anything, except on of the reference debunks the whole site premise of the concrete core for you. Good luck finding it, you have been using this site all year long, is it your site? If it is your site, you need help.

if you would actually look at the stuff the tin foil hat truthers have referenced it usually debunks them for you, it becomes self critiquing if you actually read what is there to be read; do not expect the tin foil hat sites to help, they can not read, for the most part those who say others do not have open minds, those guys may want to hunt down their brain which left when they opened their minds a little too wide, their brains must of left for better prospects

 

[Christophera]

if it was a feasible and realistic explanation for the WTC on 9/11 it would win a Pulitzer Prize

You are deluded, if the legal system of checks an balances cannot work, I refer to the destruction of evidence in capitol crimes and the inactivity of checks and balances, you cannot propose that the sociocultural systems are going to be more functional.

That site is real tin foil to the extreme; Proof, they do not discuss energy stored in the tower due to gravity. It is equal to 248 tons of TNT, the PE is equal to 248 tons of TNT. When the tower fell, they released the energy and destroyed themselves.

nutbeach,

Which site? You are not keeping your references in order.

The structure stood for 33 years with its stored gravity equal to 248 tons of TNT. The impacts did not bring the towers down and the fires were not hot enough to bring them down. Don't try to argue it because that will not be reasonable. I am familiar with every argument you might bring and you do not even have proof of the structure you think stood. Before arguing, bring raw evidence of the steel core columns.

No, words will not do. Images of the steel core columns 500 feet off the ground in the core area is all that will do.

Or, can you find a reference to any object ever that suddenly released its gravitational energy and destroyed itself without a qualified reason for the event?

 

[Christophera]

you got the wrong show, the WTC still had no core of concrete, just steel and wallboard

Empty words and these images prove it because IF steel core columns existed they would be seen in these images.

Here is the concrete core

Here is a segment of the concrete shear wall

Here is the rebar where some explosives failed and others did the job of removing the concrete leaving the vertical reinforcing bar.


Why can I produce evidence of the concrete core that also proves there were no steel core columns but you can produce no evidence of the steel core columns existence?

One guess.

There were no steel core columns.
They are a lie.

 

[Oliver]

You are deluded, if the legal system of checks an balances cannot work, I refer to the destruction of evidence in capitol crimes and the inactivity of checks and balances, you cannot propose that the sociocultural systems are going to be more functional.

This is the same i thought about it.

The structure stood for 33 years with its stored gravity equal to 248 tons of TNT.

Correct.

The impacts did not bring the towers down and the fires were not hot enough to bring them down.

See. We agree with each other.

Don't try to argue it because that will not be reasonable. I am familiar with every argument you might bring and you do not even have proof of the structure you think stood. Before arguing, bring raw evidence of the steel core columns.

These are my words - there is no evidence to support the trashy steel-core CT.

No, words will not do. Images of the steel core columns 500 feet off the ground in the core area is all that will do.

Very well researched, Chris.

Or, can you find a reference to any object ever that suddenly released its gravitational energy and destroyed itself without a qualified reason for the event?

Off course - it was Jellyfish that caused the explosions. See:

 

[beachnut]

Empty words and these images prove it because IF steel core columns existed they would be seen in these images.

Here is the concrete core

Here is a segment of the concrete shear wall

Here is the rebar where some explosives failed and others did the job of removing the concrete leaving the vertical reinforcing bar.


Why can I produce evidence of the concrete core that also proves there were no steel core columns but you can produce no evidence of the steel core columns existence?

One guess.

There were no steel core columns.
They are a lie.

those are photos of the steel core columns, so why are you showing me proof of steel core columns?

you prove yourself wrong with your own photo

by the way, the other photos you have of rebar, are actually the floor supports

all the photos of construction show the steel columns, but you have failed to pay attention, you have been doing this for how long, since May?

 

[Oliver]

you prove yourself wrong with your own photo

Uh oh... Don´t make little chris angry...

 

[Skibum]

Oliver, you make a very persuasive arguement. Thank you for opening my eyes. Your theory has far, far more RAW evidence than Christophers.

I am deeply indebted to you, I now KNOW it was a jellyfish core.

You now have one more believer than Chris does. Good job.

Danke

 

[beachnut]

Empty words and these images prove it because IF steel core columns existed they would be seen in these images.

Here is the concrete core

Here is a segment of the concrete shear wall

Here is the rebar where some explosives failed and others did the job of removing the concrete leaving the vertical reinforcing bar.


Why can I produce evidence of the concrete core that also proves there were no steel core columns but you can produce no evidence of the steel core columns existence?

One guess.

There were no steel core columns.
They are a lie.

you posted the same photos showing steel core columns, a few time in the same post

yes you have steel core columns with no concrete standing for a few seconds, and then the steel core columns fall

did you fail to see the sites I posted, and how they explain in simple terms there was not concrete core just the steel core columns you keep showing me over and over again

neat

 

[Oliver]

Oliver, you make a very persuasive arguement. Thank you for opening my eyes. Your theory has far, far more RAW evidence than Christophers.

I am deeply indebted to you, I now KNOW it was a jellyfish core.

You now have one more believer than Chris does. Good job.

Danke

Follow me and let´s spread the Word against all these "Evil-Do-ers" and their caramel- or whatever cores!

 

[Powa]

The infiltrators already "GOT" 3,000 Americans and are using you to try to create a situation where they can get more.

Why are you still alive, Chris? Surely, if "they" already killed 3,000 Americans, what's stopping them from making you "disappear"? You've been spreading the truth for years and "they" still haven't gotten around to silencing you?

Why are you not hiding somewhere, fearing for your life? Do you want your children to lose their father???

WON'T YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN????????

 

[Oliver]

you posted the same photos showing steel core columns, a few time in the same post

yes you have steel core columns with no concrete standing for a few seconds, and then the steel core columns fall

did you fail to see the sites I posted, and how they explain in simple terms there was not concrete core just the steel core columns you keep showing me over and over again

neat

I need a littlebit support for the Jellyfish-Theory. Maybe you can help me a littlebit while i fake all the nessesary evidence.

 

[Oliver]

Why are you still alive, Chris? Surely, if "they" already killed 3,000 Americans, what's stopping them from making you "disappear"? You've been spreading the truth for years and "they" still haven't gotten around to silencing you?

Why are you not hiding somewhere, fearing for your life? Do you want your children to lose their father???

WON'T YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN????????

Protest here:

I protest the garbage dump at /conspiracy theory
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66877

 

[Bubbers]

You are guessing while not providing links to the sites or images of the basic tower structures that NIST says stood. Nor has a feasible explanation of free fall been linked to or offered.

Nobody is guessing anything. There is no need to prove how a free fall happened when it is clear from the shots of the building collapsing(these can be seen in the documentary which gave you the idea that it was) that the debris that is falling off the sides of the building is falling faster than the collapse itself. That debris is falling at free fall speed. The building is not.

 

[Oliver]

Nobody is guessing anything. There is no need to prove how a free fall happened when it is clear from the shots of the building collapsing(these can be seen in the documentary which gave you the idea that it was) that the debris that is falling off the sides of the building is falling faster than the collapse itself. That debris is falling at free fall speed. The building is not.

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[qarnos]

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