of WTC7 and things being pulled

[MarkyX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boBq0jM6Mmo

So where did the magical cables come from KillTown? Because it isn't used for explosive devices like you dumbasses suggest.

Please keep in mind the Membership Agreement and be civil.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[Killtown]

Here's a few signs;

The other towers already having fallen

just a few really big important signs.

How is THAT a sign that another building that didn't get hit by a plane was going to fall?

 

[MarkyX]

Except for here:

8) Battalion Chief John Norman: they’re telling us that 7 is going to fall down

Chief Daniel Nigro was the commander.

"The most important operational decision to be made that afternoon was the collapse (Of the WTC towers) had damaged 7 World Trade Center, which is about a 50 story building, at Vesey between West Broadway and Washington Street. It had very heavy fire on many floors and I ordered the evacuation of an area sufficient around to protect our members, so we had to give up some rescue operations that were going on at the time and back the people away far enough so that if 7 World Trade did collapse, we [wouldn't] lose any more people. We continued to operate on what we could from that distance and approximately an hour and a half after that order was [given], at 5:30 in the afternoon, World Trade Center collapsed completely" - Daniel Nigro

http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/nyregion/20050812_WTC_GRAPHIC/Nigro_Daniel.txt

 

[Trifikas]

1) Worker 2: "Keep your eye on that building. It will be coming down soon."
2) Reporter: "...that building number 7 was going to collapse. That appears to be what has happened now."
3) LIEUTENANT WILLIAM RYAN, Then we found out, I guess around 3:00 o'clock, that they thought 7 was going to collapse.
4) FIREFIGHTER FRANK SWEENEY, where we stood and waited for Seven World Trade Center to come down
5) FIREFIGHTER SCOTT HOLOWACH, "We ended up back up on Vesey Street and West Street and just hanging out until tower 7 came down.
6) PARAMEDIC STEVEN PILLA, We didn't do any further because building number seven was coming down. That was another problem, to wait for building seven to come down,
7) Captain Chris Boyle: they said all right, number 7 is coming down,
8) Battalion Chief John Norman: they’re telling us that 7 is going to fall down

http://killtown.911review.org/wtc7/pullit.html


Ok, you guys concede now that they KNEW it was coming down?

I'll concede there were a lot of educated guesses, but not anyone who knew for certain. There were a lot of people who predicted 1 & 2 WOULDN'T collapse, and they ended up being wrong.

If you're going to argue that all these people knew with absolutly one hundred percent certanty that it was going to collapse, then that's 8 people from assorted fields of work that you've just added to the conspiracy.

If you believe a CD of WTC 7, then your argument has to assume that anyone predicting the collapse during the day is in on it, (Because there wouldn't be any outward signs of the collapse until after the button was pushed) and so horrid at keeping secrets they'd tell everyone it was going to collapse. And considering the number of quotes Gravy has, it can't be argued now that it would take only a small conspiracy.

Couple that with the fact the Larry gains nothing from blowing up his own buildings, and you have to concede that the Idea of a CD is less and less likely.

 

[twinstead]

If upon inspection it was decided that a collapse was potentially imminent, what exactly does that prove? There certainly are people who can look at a large building that had suffered fires and massive damage and pretty much know they are doomed, right?

I guess I'm not following what killtown is inferring.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

2) Reporter: "...that building number 7 was going to collapse. That appears to be what has happened now."
3) LIEUTENANT WILLIAM RYAN, Then we found out, I guess around 3:00 o'clock, that they thought 7 was going to collapse.
4) FIREFIGHTER FRANK SWEENEY, where we stood and waited for Seven World Trade Center to come down
5) FIREFIGHTER SCOTT HOLOWACH, "We ended up back up on Vesey Street and West Street and just hanging out until tower 7 came down.

ive bolded a few statements that show past tense, indicating they were speaking ATFER the collapse, this shows know certainty that they knew before that it was going to collapse, and one that says they thought it was goign to collapse

 

[twinstead]

What is sad is that in this day of instant information, we are going to have to go through this for EVERY major event from now on.

Every nuance, every word is going to be analyzed looking for the conspiracy that they just KNOW exists.

Oh boy I can't wait.

 

[Mince]

Originally Posted by Josh Redstone
Here's a few signs;

The other towers already having fallen

just a few really big important signs.

How is THAT a sign that another building that didn't get hit by a plane was going to fall?

Nothing is absolute, of course, but if you get too close to a shark and get bitten, are you going to get close to a shark again. Why not? That he bit you once is no proof that he will bite you again.

 

[Josh Redstone]

How is THAT a sign that another building that didn't get hit by a plane was going to fall?

I are you pretending to be this ignorant, because I have a hard time believing you actually are this ignorant given your involvement in this stuff.

I'll explain it to you;

The two towers collapsed. Debris from WTC 1 impacted WTC 7 creating a huge gash in the side of the building and causing fires to spread, unfought.

To summarize as simply as I can;

WTC 1 is damaged by a massive moving object. Fires ensue. It collapses
WTC 7 is damaged by massive moving debris. Fires ensure. Given the other signs I mentioned, suspecting it might collapse is not a crazy idea.

Did you get all that, Killtown?

 

[delphi_ote]

Your question would destroy his entire world view. Psychological. Block.

Still unanswered. Still ignored. This is such an interesting experiment.

 

[Mince]

delphi;

This is grossly off-topic, but what is your avatar? It looks like William Peterson washing narcotics with alcohol. My eyesight is poor and the avatar is very small.

Thanks.

[/hijack]

 

[Killtown]

1) If you're going to argue that all these people knew with absolutly one hundred percent certanty that it was going to collapse, then that's 8 people from assorted fields of work that you've just added to the conspiracy.

2) Couple that with the fact the Larry gains nothing from blowing up his own buildings, and you have to concede that the Idea of a CD is less and less likely.

1) That's not what I'm arguing, you're very ill informed.

2) You 100% sure about that?

 

[Killtown]

There certainly are people who can look at a large building that had suffered fires and massive damage and pretty much know they are doomed, right?

Really? Who?

 

[W6102LA]

Question for those that suspect WTC7 was demolished...

Was it:

1)"pulled" with cables ?
2)"pulled" with explosives ?
3) other means ?

 

[Killtown]

ive bolded a few statements that show past tense, indicating they were speaking ATFER the collapse, this shows know certainty that they knew before that it was going to collapse, and one that says they thought it was goign to collapse

7) Captain Chris Boyle: they said all right, number 7 is coming down,
8) Battalion Chief John Norman: they’re telling us that 7 is going to fall down

 

[Killtown]

WTC 7 is damaged by massive moving debris. Fires ensure. Given the other signs I mentioned, suspecting it might collapse is not a crazy idea.

How many other buildings in the area were thought they might collapse that met the same fate as WTC 7 before it collapsed?

 

[MarkyX]

KillTown is insane.

He simply refuses to answer my quote from the commander who gave the order of the collapse. Mental block indeed.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

7) Captain Chris Boyle: they said all right, number 7 is coming down,
8) Battalion Chief John Norman: they’re telling us that 7 is going to fall down

do "they" have names? did "they" know for a fact that WTC7 was going to collapse, or were "they" stating an opinion?

 

[Killtown]

Question for those that suspect WTC7 was demolished...

Was it:

1)"pulled" with cables ?
2)"pulled" with explosives ?
3) other means ?

#2, you can tell by how it imploded just like a classic controlled demolition.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

How many other buildings in the area were thought they might collapse that met the same fate as WTC 7 before it collapsed?

my guess is 3, WTC 4, 5 and 6 (WTC3 was already compeltely destroyed by the collpase of the towers)