Val McClatchey's camera identified, contained editing software

[CptColumbo]

Jeez - I go play on another forum for a day, and I come back to find The General has arrived and Killtown is back. Can't I leave you guys alone for even a single day without you messing up the family room?

Don't look at me, I was upstairs watching TV in my room. I think Gravy invited them over, and TAM brought the keg.

 

[CurtC]

Val McClatchey's camera identified, contained editing software

Since your interest in this thread (according to you) is simply to correct the technical errors in the Post-Gazette article, perhaps you can provide the info necessary to actually make your point. What was claimed in the article? IIRC, Val claimed that she didn't have access to software that would let her insert a smoke plume into another image. You've shown that her camera came with software that would allow her to crop, enhance the contrast and color balance, and remove redeye. It still looks to me like she wouldn't have access to high-end software like Photoshop.

4. It uses 4 AA batteries, not one.

(A Post-Gazette article (Conspiracy theorists blog that Flight 93 photo is fake) said the reason she only took one photo of the plume is that she dropped her camera after her one and only shot and that it "jolted the battery loose" implying that the camera only had one battery.)

Sorry, you lose on this point. The Post-Gazette was correct. You see, a single AA cell is properly called a "cell," and a combination of multiple cells is called a "battery." You're wrong, the Post-Gazette's account, and Val's account, were technically correct.

It looks to me like you're wrong on both points. Yet again. That's become a habit for you, hasn't it, Killtown?

 

[sophia8]

A challenge to Killtown

From http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06218/711239-85.stm:

Mrs. McClatchey was taken aback by the personal criticism by those who, she said, "hide behind their aliases."

"This Killtown, whoever he may be, I find it very disturbing that this is a 16-page attack on me personally," said Mrs. McClatchey, who opened her real estate company a year and a half ago. "My business is named. That hurts me personally. It's pretty disturbing. My whole life is out there, a map to where I live, a map to my office. It's a safety issue for me. There's some crazy people out there."....... (The blogger identified only as Killtown could be reached only via e-mail. He or she agreed to be interviewed without ever revealing identity and never got in phone contact with this reporter.)

<sarcasm>Bravo Killtown!! You've really nailed this cowardly dispicable woman and made it possible for everyone to visit her or call her up and tell her what a fraud she is!</sarcasm>
Now, how about letting us know your name and address? If a mere woman can take it, so can you!

 

[DavidJames]

Now, how about letting us know your name and address? If a mere woman can take it, so can you!

Don't count on it, his mommy and daddy would be very upset with him.

 

[T.A.M.]

Don't look at me, I was upstairs watching TV in my room. I think Gravy invited them over, and TAM brought the keg.

Well you know us canucks. we love our beer. Besides, Its thanksgiving weekend here in Canada, so its all turkey dressing and beer here.

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Mrs. McClatchey was taken aback by the personal criticism by those who, she said, "hide behind their aliases."

"This Killtown, whoever he may be, I find it very disturbing that this is a 16-page attack on me personally," said Mrs. McClatchey, who opened her real estate company a year and a half ago. "My business is named. That hurts me personally. It's pretty disturbing. My whole life is out there, a map to where I live, a map to my office. It's a safety issue for me. There's some crazy people out there."....... (The blogger identified only as Killtown could be reached only via e-mail. He or she agreed to be interviewed without ever revealing identity and never got in phone contact with this reporter.)

She is a kinder, more forgiving person than me. Had he done such to myself, I would go out of my way to find out his personal information and then sue his ass so he and his parents would be putting my children through college.

What an assh*le.

TAM

 

[Killtown]

Uh huh. You said it here, among other places.


You mean you still don't understand the difference between Flight 93 and the MOAB? Really? wow.


No, that's your theory. I double-dog dare you to prove that's our theory.

Oh, and I like how you conveniently ignored responding to my point about you not being able to do simple arithmetic. So,

Killtown, do you deny that you added 580 MPH to 125 feet to get 705 feet in this post? Yes or no?


Ducking the point will get you nowhere. And yes, it is.

Um buddy, most of that was not what I think, but when I was trying to help you guys formulate YOUR theory of what happened. Derrrr.

 

[Killtown]

But you admit that you have no evidence that she faked her photo.

I hold the possibility that the photo is fake, I don't really care whether she, or her husband faked it, but more interested in the FBI who take her memory card and possibly her hard drive back with them because they saw "debris shooting out from the plume." And there is plenty of evidence the photo is fake.

 

[CFLarsen]

I hold the possibility that the photo is fake, I don't really care whether she, or her husband faked it, but more interested in the FBI who take her memory card and possibly her hard drive back with them because they saw "debris shooting out from the plume." And there is plenty of evidence the photo is fake.

Your actions belie your words.

You do care - a great deal - if she faked this photo. Otherwise, you wouldn't go through all this trouble.

 

[Oliver]

I hold the possibility that the photo is fake, I don't really care whether she, or her husband faked it, but more interested in the FBI who take her memory card and possibly her hard drive back with them because they saw "debris shooting out from the plume." And there is plenty of evidence the photo is fake.

Hey, Killy - the whole world is a fake.
Nothing is real. It´s just a big blurry La-La-Land.
And now be a nice guy - stop smoking weed and
go home to Mum.

 

[R.Mackey]

Um buddy, most of that was not what I think, but when I was trying to help you guys formulate YOUR theory of what happened. Derrrr.

Answer the question, Killtown:

Killtown, do you deny that you added 580 MPH to 125 feet to get 705 feet in this post? Yes or no?

Given this startling lack of competence, the very notion that we needed your help to formulate our theory is utterly ridiculous.

 

[CptColumbo]

I hold the possibility that the photo is fake, I don't really care whether she, or her husband faked it, but more interested in the FBI who take her memory card and possibly her hard drive back with them because they saw "debris shooting out from the plume." And there is plenty of evidence the photo is fake.

The second sentence just contradicted what you wrote in the first sentence.

So you ruined this woman's life, but you "don't really care" if she faked the photo.

You are quite the piece of work.

 

[Killtown]

1) No, Killtown, there was one scheduled, but it wasn't run because of the terrorist hijackings. As always, your sources are wrong.
2) Your only criterion for Val McClatchey's guilt is if her photo was photoshopped.
3) I've asked you many times and you've refused to answer: do you have a single shred of evidence that it was?
4) If not, why have you behaved so horribly to this victim of 9/11?
5)What, exactly has she done, Killtown?

1) My sources are wrong on what???

2) As always, your sources are wrong.

3) See my blog.

4) Victim of 9/11? who did she loose?

5) If her photo is fake, or it's real and she knows this explosion didn't originate from the crater, which I proved it didn't originate from the crater, you still think she innocent?

 

[Killtown]

1) I did. It went like this:

2) Publishing with malicious intent.

1) no, you didn't read what I said in my starting post.

2) Um, where you do you think I got her info?

 

[mortimer]

Killtown in Mama's basement, formulating his "theory".

 

[Stellafane]

1) My sources are wrong on what???

2) As always, your sources are wrong.

3) See my blog.

4) Victim of 9/11? who did she loose?

5) If her photo is fake, or it's real and she knows this explosion didn't originate from the crater, which I proved it didn't originate from the crater, you still think she innocent?

C'mon K-boy, 'fess up -- what's the real deal with your unhealthy fixation with Val McClatchey? Does she remind you of someone, maybe that 3th grade teacher you had a crush on that made you stand in the corner in front of the whole class, and they all laughed at you but you knew then that you'd make them all sorry one day? Or do you figure this is the only way you're ever going to become part of any woman's life?

 

[Overman]

Killtown,

Thank you, That first post was one of the funniest things I have ever read. You are seriously implying that some random person who took a picture of a plume of smoke is in on some grand conspiricy.

Oh Man LOL!!!!!

 

[Pardalis]

Killtown, if you had any shread of decency, you should apologize to Val and treat her with respect.

You have no evidence to back your claims, none what so ever. Your blog is damaging someone's reputation and honor. It is gratuitous diffamation of character of the lowest kind.

This lady just happened to make a picture of a plume of smoke in the sky. Stop harrassing her and leave her be. Instead of doing a real investigation on your government, the ones that you say are the real guilty ones, you are attacking this one defenseless and innocent lady. You are trully pathetic.

 

[Killtown]

1) you state she was in financial trouble, and yet had a 300 dollar camera, well as previously stated, she is a realtor, as such im surprised her camera was that cheap

2) also, it appears according toy ou post she and/or her husband owned another business, yet another reason to own a good camera

3) what evidence do you have she uses the "honor system" she asks that all checks be made out to the todd beamer foundation, this is pretty mucht eh opposite of the "honor system"


1: its doubtful she ever even looked at the software
2: its HIGHLY doubtful the software is capable of making the edits you seem to be implying it did
3: you have no proof she was ever even in possession of the bundled software, are you certain this wasnt her helicopter freinds camera she was borrowing? or maybe she got it second-hand or as an open box item and it didnt come with the disc

1) she bought a new camera and computer. Was it for her new career in real estate? Possibly, but she says she didn't start taking real estate classes until after the New Year.

2) Um, owned a business that was about to go bankrupt. Obviously you didn't read my beginning post very well:

were in severe financial trouble in which they filed Chp 11 on their saw mill business 9 days after 9/11 and then had to close it down on Dec. 31th.

3) Go read my linked blogpost.

1. Your guess.
2. 100% sure of that?
3. LoL! What part of her "month-old" camera do you not understand?

Btw, no one thinks it's fishy she had her camera ready by the door waiting for a helicopter flyby?

And what about her hearing/seeing the jet fly over her house in the near opposite direction Flight 93 supposedly flew in?

 

[Killtown]

So I guess that Killtown is now conceding there was no "ordnance plume" at Shanksville, because he now believes the picture was photoshoped.

Essentially.