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Does skepticism make you smarter?

If by skepticism you mean "critical thinking" then I would say it is not about "it" making you smarter but about helping you think in logical and rational and coherent manner. And if you can learn to do that then I think you do benefit.

Well put. I think that we feel the benefits in terms of being able to frame discussions and arguments in a more logical fashion, and being able to reach conclusions that are sounded on logical examination of available evidence. So maybe someone not trained in critical thinking feels smarter after delving into the methodology? I'm not sure, but I've read a lot of posts by people who said they were intrigued and then "converted" (for lack of a better term) by reading and participating in this or similar forums.

Me? I started out brilliant. :D

And, BTW, no matter how we feel, the guys down at the Bull and Bear still think we're Cliff Claven.

Cliff:
If you toss a penny 10,000 times, it will not be heads 5000 times, but more like 4950. The heads picture weighs more, so it ends up on the bottom.
 
Before skepticism I had an IQ of 40.

After skepticism I have an IQ of 400.

It's true.
 
If you only reply to take issue with the use of the word "smarter," then it's a reasonable conclusion.
 
Yes, it does make you smarter.

If an increased ability to make decisions, reason and understand things doesn't mean you're "smarter", then what does?
 
Skeptics Are Smarter - Well, Almost. But Not Better.

Obviously, the natural response is "no" because nearly all of us have humility and want to stress that skeptics don't think they're better than non-skeptics.

I'm a skeptic to the bone.

Some skeptics do have an attitude of superiority - just like real people do sometimes. Even Mr. Randi has an ego just a bit too big for his britches sometimes, I can't blame him in some of his exasperating encounters with human stupidity, but that's just human nature and we all do it sometimes, but most of the time, he does have a valid point.

However, in my opinion, skeptics do have a higher intelligence potential in general.

The reason I have this opinion is that the nature of skepticism is such that a skeptic is much less likely to simply believe something on invalid grounds than a non-skeptic would be. He does research and learns something in the process.

I'm especially skeptical regarding religions, having had relatives who preferred faith healing over modern medicine and died as a direct of their misguided faith in something proven time and time again to be worthless. So, as a result of those observations, I consider religion a mental cancer or disease - sometimes benign, as in a little old lady who attends church every Sunday and gives to the poor, or malignant - like a terrorist who murders in the name of God - or someone who goes to church rather than a doctor to treat a serious disease - but nevertheless a mental illness in either case - just not destructive in all cases.

As a devout, dues paying, card carrying skeptic, when in doubt, I do in-depth research. Doing that research generally educates me to some extent by teaching me some new things I may not have realised before, that as a non-skeptic, I would not have been inclined to discover otherwise.

Consequently, a true skeptic should be at least a little smarter than the 'average' non-skeptic simply because he wants to be more sure of himself and have a sensible, logical foundation to support his beliefs.

If a non-skeptic believed some nonsense about magnets curing cancer and other horrible diseases, how could he qualify as smarter than a well-researched skeptic who has acquired the knowledge to know better simply because he took the time to see what real science has found out about it from experiments?

Some people are skeptical of science to the point of being just plain silly about it. If a scientist says it, then they doubt it just for that reason alone.

The biggest difference between skeptics and non-skeptics that I can see, seems to be the gullibility factor. It's harder to fool a true skeptic than a non-skeptic - or at least it should be. Otherwise, how could you tell the difference?

Also, we must not forget that we are not skeptics simply because we refuse to believe in something that sounds far-fetched. It's not that simple. We are skeptics because we usually have a good reason supporting our conclusions, but we can be fallible. A skeptic must support his conclusions on rational grounds, not just reject something for no reason other than just plain mistrust. Even some seemingly wild ideas do turn out to be true sometimes, so we must keep that in mind unless we have conclusive facts to the contrary.

A closed mind is sometimes a good thing - when you are absolutely correct in your judgement - but proving it is another matter. However, there is a big difference between believing you are right without evidence as opposed to knowing you are right and have the evidence to prove it. A mind should remain open until verifiable facts justify closing it to further arguments - just like in a court of law, there is a certain point where it's time for a verdict to be passed down.

So, without attempting to be smug, pompous or arrogant about it, I believe that skeptics are just a bit more intellectual than non-skeptics because they tend to look more carefully at something before accepting it. But that doesn't mean that they are extremely more intelligent, just more self conscious as to why they believe something and want to be more sure of themselves and have some facts to stand on before committing to any belief. Nothing wrong with that - just don't let it go to your head because, skeptic or not, we are not infallible and even the best stumble once in a while. For example, even Albert Einstein has been firmly proven wrong on some of his scientific conclusions, but that doesn't invalidate the rest of his work - It just proves the old adage that nobody's perfect. Even skeptics - GASP !!

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I don’t think being sceptical has made me smarter.. I think being smarter made me sceptical.

One thing I have learned here is that you must be better informed to argue against woo and as I am EXTEMELY lazy (to do the research) hanging out here has been a boon in terms of debunking material, as so much research has been done for you.

I have come to ONE simple (and arrogant) conclusion though… even if they might have some measure of intelligence people who believe woo and ct’ists are fundamentally flawed and might as well be labelled stupid.

I forgive them up until they DO NOT answer the fundamental opinion altering questions.. then I know they are “hiding” from the truth and are basically idiots when it comes to their pet woo !
 
How is an organization which by definition limits itself to 2% of the population "democratic"?

Yeah, he probably didn't mean democracy. He meant "meritocracy." Merit, judged on a (somewhat) objective scale, determines membership - not race, creed, income, etc.

It's not democratic but it is, by some definition, fair.
 
Skepticism makes you smarter the same way reading a book about weight lifting makes you stronger. It doesn’t. But it does increase your ability to reach your genetic potential.
 
Skepticism makes you smarter the same way reading a book about weight lifting makes you stronger. It doesn’t. But it does increase your ability to reach your genetic potential.

So what would make me smarter, if I am currently below my genetic potential?
 
The Magnetism of Skepticism

Skepticism makes you smarter the same way reading a book about weight lifting makes you stronger. It doesn’t. But it does increase your ability to reach your genetic potential.

I have to slightly disagree with that.

Skepticism made me a tad smarter.

Here's what skepticism did for me.

There was once a time when I almost fell for a TV myth that a magnetic device could cure some rather serious, painful ailments.

I saw genuine professional athletes on TV claiming that the device helped them deal with pain and discomfort.

The ad also claimed that some university research studies demonstrated that the device worked. However, they conveniently didn't mention the name of the university or where I could write to get a copy of said study - that in itself was suspicious to me.

So, I consulted the internet and discovered that a lot more real scientific research than I ever realized had in fact been done on the use of magnets to cure ailments and they found no evidence that they have much more effect than any placebo. And those universities aren't afraid to be identified, such as Baylor College of Medicine in Houston, Texas.

http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/magnet.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6813

It wouldn't take over 100 years of study to determine if common aspirin was effective at relieving minor pain. Why should there still be so much doubt about if or not magnets work after all this time?

The way I see it is that, if their effectiveness is that difficult to establish after more than a century of scientific study, then they certainly can't be much of an effective cure. So, I wouldn't consider magnets as any great scientific breakthrough for pain relief, especially serious pain.

Skepticism provoked me to do a little research and that left me a little smarter in the end - at least as far as magnets are concerned.

Thus in that sense, skeptics should be at least a tiny bit more intelligent than non-skeptics who don't do any research at all before they decide to believe some questionable claim.

Skepticism works for me.

And if you call in the next 10 minutes, it can do the same for you too for only $19.95! That's only half the usual price!

LOL
 
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Not smarter but better able to grasp most situations.

I am of the opinion that the non skeptics in this world are social cowards. They need a crutch to help them live their lives. They are unable to make any decisions in their life without first running it past their deity/astrologer/psychic etc. to make sure it is ok.

Skeptics on the other hand, tend to live their lives based on their own answers, which they arrive at after cigutation: ie, they think about it, get the answer and then run with that.

I think this makes you a bit more worldy wise than someone who got their befuddled answer in some 2000 yr old book or from someone like our friend Sylvia.
 
Skepticism makes you smarter the same way reading a book about weight lifting makes you stronger. It doesn’t. But it does increase your ability to reach your genetic potential.
But skepticism helps you exercise the mind. Lifting weights would make you stronger...
 
If knowing other skeptics is a requirement for skepticism, who was the first skeptic? And how? :p

People can be 1% sceptical without being labelled sceptical. One person who knows them can be 2% sceptical. He can then make a group of people 2% sceptical. Then the process repeats with a slightly higher sceptical group.

Eventually you get one person who can be labelled sceptical.

NB Like my previous post this is a simplification.
 
It's a process which one engages in, critical thinking, that becomes somewhat automatic or second nature after awhile as your mind numbs the "pr-agent" or "newspaperpress" (not sure of it's clinical name).
The pr-agent is what immedietely attaches a traveling thought to emotional content and clings to it desperately, feeding the self-image of ones ego.

To circumvent this requires the process of self-criticism and scrutiny, not necessarily to ones actions alone but more so to ones reason and manner of arriving at ideas, notions, convictions, theories and sentiments.

It doesn't inherently increase ones IQ as so however it surely is productive for the proper application of knowledge.
A bit like a stimuli for ones temperence and wisdom perhaps?
One thing is granted of course, great minds are oft considered great dependant on the beholder of this judgement thinking alike to you.
 
Well, after a weekend when I made myself look like a complete [rule 8]hole in the pub in front of a woman I fancy, I'd have to say: More intelligent, yes, but wiser, no.
 

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