Loose Change - Part IV

[Gravy]

9/11 museum acquires its first memory.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/08/nyregion/08cnd-museum.html

A good acquisition, methinks.

 

[Johnny C.]

First hit was by B Real, head moon bat over there!

roflmao. He keeps trying to tell me that if a person jumped off of the wtc, it would take them 30-40 seconds to reach the ground! WTF!?

He even made me a video and put it on youtube.

I just sent a him a video of people jumping to escape the fires in the WTC (peace be upon them) taking only 7 seconds to reach bottom. Thats from at least the 70th floor or so, maybe even 90th. Im not sure.

Funny enough, my name over there is Moonbat. I mostly just mock them instead of arguing. If someone has a genuine question I PM them a well thought-out response, complete with sources.

 

[CptColumbo]

I'd like a show of hands: who here is not me?

I'm pretty sure I'm not you, but you would know better than I.

 

[Regnad Kcin]

i think on some level even the CTers realize their conspiracy is too big to keep under wraps, thats why they keep saying "only a few people would have to be involved"

Except that's wrong.

Any "inside job" would, by its nature, be just about the largest and most complex undertaking of its kind in the history of man. Not only to design, but to implement, and also to continue to cover-up.

Why "just about" the largest? Faked moon missions would also be difficult to successfully pull off. Astronomically difficult, you might say.

 

[Johnny Pixels]

Implosion World's paper has finally come out.
I can't access the site right now, but here is a link from the LC forum

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=10012

Just finished reading the paper. To summarise:

The CTs are talking rubbish.

It makes some good points, and also says that "pull it" is not an explosive demolition term. I see on the LC thread there are some people talking their way out of it.

Good stuff.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

It makes some good points, and also says that "pull it" is not an explosive demolition term. I see on the LC thread there are some people talking their way out of it.

implosion world has ties to CDI and CDI is a govt contractor, therefore they are all shills!


ha, i like how Paddy pulls out the ol' dictionary.com definition of "pull down" again

might be worth soemthing if silverstein had said "pull it down"


i also mirrored the letter here if you dont want to bother with rapidshare
http://xbehome.com/screwloosechange/pictures/WTC_COLLAPSE_STUDY_BBlanchard_8-8-06.pdf

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

"gravy" aka MarkyX aka Mark Iradian aka Mark Roberts aka ... you get the picture ... "

Is anyone really suprised that Dylan Al-Avery thinks this?

Remember, this is the guy who thinks that out of 1.2 BILLION moslems or ethnic arabs in the world, only one has ever been named "Ziad" or "Walid".

I have a 9 year old boy named "Ziad" in my cub scout troop that I volunteer with. If he had something to do with 9-11 as Dylan Bin-Avery says the FBI claims, he is going to be doing ALOT of push-ups next wednesday.

 

[Johnny Pixels]

implosion world has ties to CDI and CDI is a govt contractor, therefore they are all shills!

If you're not a shill these days, then you're a nobody.

 

[Mr. Skinny]

That's Mister Columbo to you. If not Captain.

Bah, we knew ya when you were just a Lieutenant.

Now pi55 off.

 

[Johnny Pixels]

ha, i like how Paddy pulls out the ol' dictionary.com definition of "pull down" again

might be worth soemthing if silverstein had said 'pull it down"

Next thing you know they'll be "proving" that Jesus rode around on his backside, because the dictionary says Ass = Arse

 

[Johnny C.]

Just finished reading the paper. To summarise:

The CTs are talking rubbish.

It makes some good points, and also says that "pull it" is not an explosive demolition term. I see on the LC thread there are some people talking their way out of it.

Good stuff.

On 911myths they say "pulling" a building is when you use cables and heavy machinery to pull buildings off their center of gravity, causing them to eventually collapse.

Either way, it just didnt happen.

 

[T.A.M.]

I'm just the picasso of the Microbe world...no Mark here...

 

[defaultdotxbe]

On 911myths they say "pulling" a building is when you use cables and heavy machinery to pull buildings off their center of gravity, causing them to eventually collapse.

Either way, it just didnt happen.

thats exactly what IW says in the letter

but dictionary.com says "dynamite" so the those "so-called" experts must be lying LOL

 

[T.A.M.]

Israel's role in 9/11 - the movie

Posted over at the LC forum. Most didn't know what to say, as it contends israel had a central role in 9/11, which alot of the LC crowd are afraid to say anything about.

This is another sign that they will soon be disintgrating...too many way out there theories will make the more reasonable (bare with me) ones ignorable.

 

[Johnny C.]

Israel's role in 9/11 - the movie

Posted over at the LC forum. Most didn't know what to say, as it contends israel had a central role in 9/11, which alot of the LC crowd are afraid to say anything about.

This is another sign that they will soon be disintgrating...too many way out there theories will make the more reasonable (bare with me) ones ignorable.

It always leads back to the Jews.

 

[Joytown]

implosion world has ties to CDI and CDI is a govt contractor, therefore they are all shills!

i also mirrored the letter here if you dont want to bother with rapidshare
http://xbehome.com/screwloosechange/pictures/WTC_COLLAPSE_STUDY_BBlanchard_8-8-06.pdf

Wow .. that document is pretty damning to the Controlled Demo CT'ers. And they did something I think more experts in their respective fields need to do: face the CT questions head on.

So once again we have a situation where the experts in the field, in this case the very people who would know what to look for had it been a controlled demo, have provided their analysis of the situation. And once again it shows that the Conspiracy Theory has no legs to stand on.

It amazes me how the CT'ers ping pong back and forth between "it was a CD - it's so OBVIOUS - squibs and explosions and thermate and molton steel" and "of course it doesn't look like a CD - it was a CD that wasn't supposed to look like a CD!". One could get whiplash!

-Joytown

 

[Kent1]

The new CT journal has come out
http://www.journalof911studies.com/

The 4th article may be the most terrible one yet.
I think it may be even worse than the 3 plane elephant article.
In fact he uses it as a source for point number 21. Unbelieveable!
He also brings out dozens of debunked and tired claims.

Such as:
Hijacker names missing from flight manifests
Sole confession of bin Laden found in questionable video
(I guess he doesn't know about the one that occured around the election)
Several alleged hijackers discovered alive and well
Options trading in days preceding 9/11
Allegedly devout Muslim hijackers out partying prior to 9/11

(Maybe he should of read Mike's site first rather than just rip off many of Griffins false claims)

 

[Gravy]

The new CT journal has come out
http://www.journalof911studies.com/

The 4th article may be the worse one yet.
I think it may be even worse than the 3 plane elephant article.
In fact he uses it as a source for point number 21. Unbelieveable!
He also brings out dozens of debunked and tired claims.

Such as:
Hijacker names missing from flight manifests
Sole confession of bin Laden found in questionable video
(I guess he doesn't know about the one that occured around the election)
Several alleged hijackers discovered alive and well
Options trading in days preceding 9/11
Allegedly devout Muslim hijackers out partying prior to 9/11

Unbelievable. Remember, these are supposedly "peer-reviewed" papers.

Scholars???

 

[T.A.M.]

I think they get away with the "Peer reviewed" claim, because it is not a scientific journal. Let me tell you as a scientist, and as a frequent (daily) reader of truely peer reviewed articles, there is not one scientific paper created by any of them (S. Jones Included) that would be published in a true peer reviewed scientific journal.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

It amazes me how the CT'ers ping pong back and forth between "it was a CD - it's so OBVIOUS - squibs and explosions and thermate and molton steel" and "of course it doesn't look like a CD - it was a CD that wasn't supposed to look like a CD!". One could get whiplash!

-Joytown

did you read the posts on the LC board? they attack the IW letter stating how CDs start at the bottom with the old "its a CD designed not to look like a CD" argument, completely ignoring the meat of the IW letter detailing how much PLANNING would have to go into rigging the WTC to go down

and they accuse us of attacking strawmen, lol