Demand Koran Replace U.S. Constitution

gumboot said:
In "bible times" pigs were especially prone to particular deadly diseases and in hot climates pig meat very quickly attracts plenty of nasty bacteria.

Hence it was banned - because there was a good chance eating it would kill you.
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Marvin Harris, the anthropologist, had a slightly different theory.

When you raise pigs, you feed them corn, grain, etc.--essentially the same food that humans would be eating.

In an environment that was becoming increasingly desertlike, humans couldn't afford the competition for resources. So, over time, pigs became taboo.
 
Earthborn said:
More on the "pork soup ban": here, which is a reaction to this issue. This is also an interesting article.

Debbie Schlussel apparently forgot to mention that the issue is about rightwing extremists deliberately using pork to exclude Muslim and Jewish homeless people. A whole new meaning to the word "soup Nazi".
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...And I wonder if anyone will acknowledge this little inconvenient fact...
 
Cleon said:
Ummmm...Who wants to tell him?
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The British used disinformation they planted that the bullets used by Muslims they were fighting in Afghanistan were oiled with pork grease. Each bullet was hand loaded and the Muslims not only had to touch them they had to pull the outer casement or packing off each bullet with their teeth before inserting it in their rifles. This rumour, whether true or not, was enough to get the Muslims to stop shooting.

Yes, I am advocating the use of pork to fight the Islamic terrorists including hezbollah and insurgents in Iraq and wherever.
 
I know that Landover Baptist is a parody site, but is this for real?

At every airline gate, each passenger must be required to eat a meal of BACON before being allowed to board any airplane.
You refuse - you don't board! Simpler and more cost-effective than expensive, less-than-foolproof security devices - and sure to smoke out the potential terrorist every time.
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Also sure to smoke out Jews, vegetarians and people with high cholesterol.
 
SteveGrenard said:
The British used disinformation they planted that the bullets used by Muslims they were fighting in Afghanistan were oiled with pork grease. Each bullet was hand loaded and the Muslims not only had to touch them they had to pull the outer casement or packing off each bullet with their teeth before inserting it in their rifles. This rumour, whether true or not, was enough to get the Muslims to stop shooting.
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Are they still using Enfields?
 
SteveGrenard said:
The British used disinformation they planted that the bullets used by Muslims they were fighting in Afghanistan were oiled with pork grease. Each bullet was hand loaded and the Muslims not only had to touch them they had to pull the outer casement or packing off each bullet with their teeth before inserting it in their rifles. This rumour, whether true or not, was enough to get the Muslims to stop shooting.

Yes, I am advocating the use of pork to fight the Islamic terrorists including hezbollah and insurgents in Iraq and wherever.
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My understanding is slightly different:

I understood that this was an issue during the Indian Mutiny. Native troops were told by mutineers that their cartridges were covered in beef (hindu) or pork (muslim) grease. The British were adamant that they were covered in mutton grease.

I'd be interested to find a cite for the Afghan evidence you mention


ETA: should have read Mojo's link
 
I seem to remember (and I would have to search for it) that the pork grease rumour to which I refer was connected to a battle for the Khyber Pass.

In any case the Wikipedia article deals with the subject concerning the greasing of the bullets and the unwillingness of particular groups to use
their mouths to yank on them to make them
fireable in their rifles.

No, they are not still using Enfields but the Moselms still won't touch or eat pork. The objection to contact with pork can inventively be updated given the strict adherence of the Muslims to their no pork rule. The problem would be in the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict that the Jews have this same prohibition. However Jews havecircumvented the need for prohibited practices by hiring/using people who are not Jews (e.g. Christians or atheists) to do tasks their religion forbids. And then there are reformed or non-orthodox Jews who are not above eating a ham sandwich. I have known quite a few.

Using pork against the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan is not an issue on religious grounds for coalition forces but may be objected to by our Moslem allies. I say the heck with that but that's just me. If pork or the rumour of pork can save lives that overrides the religious objection.
 
SteveGrenard said:
Using pork against the insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan is not an issue on religious grounds for coalition forces but may be objected to by our Moslem allies. I say the heck with that but that's just me. If pork or the rumour of pork can save lives that overrides the religious objection.
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You advocate using pork against Hezbollah. How will you do that?

Will you only use rumors, or will you do something that will get them in contact with pork?
 
CFLarsen said:
You advocate using pork against Hezbollah. How will you do that?

Will you only use rumors, or will you do something that will get them in contact with pork?
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Rumours worked in the days of the Enfield but won't work today as the enemy may have access to abilities/technology to detect whether they are true or not. It is important, however, for the information if it is being used as a deterrent to be spread as a rumour but then verifiable as
being true. So the long answer to the question is that updating of the Enfield scenario to modern conditions involving the use of real pork would be required. No muslim would then want to risk going to hell as a result of being non-fatally assaulted by any porcine product.
 
SteveGrenard said:
I seem to remember (and I would have to search for it) that the pork grease rumour to which I refer was connected to a battle for the Khyber Pass.
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The Battle of Ali Masjid perhaps ?

The only other battle I recall (as opposed to skirmishes) relating to the British and the Khyber pass is the attempted withdrawl of British forces through the pass in 1842.

In terms of battles between the British and the Afghans, they fall into the first Afghan war and the second Afghan war.
 
CFLarsen said:
You advocate using pork against Hezbollah. How will you do that?

Will you only use rumors, or will you do something that will get them in contact with pork?
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Obviously, what we need to do is to persuade Hezbollah to start using muzzle-loaded rifles with greased cartridges. Then we can stop them using them by starting a rumour that the cartridges are greased with lard.
 
Mojo said:
Obviously, what we need to do is to persuade Hezbollah to start using muzzle-loaded rifles with greased cartridges. Then we can stop them using them by starting a rumour that the cartridges are greased with lard.
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Not necessarily. The Israelis can just hire a non-Jewish contractor such as Haliburton to grease their bullets with pork fat.....

According to the following blog re Israeli bullets there was a US military suggestion to also ban the use of Israeli bullets in Iraq. I guess now the Israelis need all the bullets they can get so its moot:

Israeli-made bullets bought by the U.S. Army to plug a shortfall should be used for training only, not to fight Muslim guerrillas in Iraq and Afghanistan, U.S. lawmakers told Army generals on Thursday.
Since the Army has other stockpiled ammunition, "by no means, under any circumstances should a round (from Israel) be utilized," said Rep. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii, the top Democrat on a House of Representatives Armed Services subcommittee with jurisdiction over land forces.

Although the Army should not have to worry about "political correctness," Abercrombie was making a valid point about the propaganda pitfalls of using Israeli rounds in the U.S.-declared war on terror, said Rep. Curt Weldon, the Pennsylvania Republican who chairs the subcommittee on tactical air and land forces.
"There's a sensitivity that I think all of us recognize," Weldon told the Army witnesses, including Maj. Gen. Buford Blount, who led the U.S. Third Infantry Division that captured Baghdad in April 2003.
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I once had lunch with a mercenary who had found Muslims in Africa. His group always greased their bullets with pigfat. Sounds fine to me. If they're worth killing, they're worth offending.
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http://www.tinyvital.com/BlogArchives/000847.html
 
Then Hezbollah in retaliation will launch their Kayusha rockets lathered in pig grease at the Israelis. But wait a minute, who will they hire to do this for them?

I feel the sudden need to buy pork belly futures.
 
SteveGrenard said:
Then Hezbollah in retaliation will launch their Kayusha rockets lathered in pig grease at the Israelis. But wait a minute, who will they hire to do this for them?
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Haliburton.
And another piece of the puzzle falls into place.
 
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