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Death Penalty in China

Who said it was just a deterrent? It also serves "to express society's revusion at particularly horrific acts."

So it's a form of self-expression now? That makes it all right.

China is just a bit more expressive than other nations. Settle down, people.
 
Imagine the look on the mechanics faces when it's time to pull the van in for service...
 
Imagine the look on the mechanics faces when it's time to pull the van in for service...

Mechanic: So what's the problem?

Driver: I think it's the rear suspension -- the folks riding in the back say it's killing them.
 
I tried to load the linked page twice. The first time, the page just stopped loading. The second time my macintosh crashed - the first time in 12 months. Cripes, I hate AOL.
 
So it's a form of self-expression now?

Mr. "I understand every word in the absolutely most literal sense possible when its to my benefit" strikes again.

If someone said, "◊◊◊◊ you!", you'd think they're inviting you to have an affair with them.
 
If expense is important to them, why don't they just beat the condemned to death with a big stick?

Man, two previous posts have already quoted and responded to this, but neither of them took the obvious route.

I think we may have found a job for BigFig.

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Who said it was just a deterrent? It also serves "to express society's revusion at particularly horrific acts."

...by performing a particularly horrific act?

Why not simply throw them to the lions? Bread and circuses?
 
The van, truck, or whatever you want to call it is somewhat 'horrifying' because it is so expedient. Death on wheels...have a seat, we'll be right over.

I find it odd that I have read many many times that the organs of lethal injection 'subjects' are unusable for toxicity reasons, yet the article (as well as several posters here) have brought it up as a possible reason for this new 'expediancy'. Use of different chemicals shouldn't be a possibility, since if the article is to be believed they use the same methods and chemical mix as is used in the US.
 
The van, truck, or whatever you want to call it is somewhat 'horrifying' because it is so expedient. Death on wheels...have a seat, we'll be right over.
Previously they used firing squads, which where even mroe mobile.
 
Hmm...figured for the firing squad, they'd take you somewhere rather than have them 'mobile'. Cheaper to have a couple of guys in a van than a 'squad', but I also thought that the preferred method was a shot to the back of the head by one executioner.

/irrelevant warning
I'd still take a firing squad or a bullet in the brain over a chamber of horrors.
 
At the very least, I think it is in poor taste. It shows a government with such a detachment from the emotions surrounding the death penalty that this makes sense. They are executing so many people a year that a “deathmobile” is actually financially viable.

Surely a mobile system can be financially viable at a lower frequency of occurence than permanent structures?

For example a mobile library covering a large number of towns as opposed to each bearing the cost of building their own.

Maybe it is those countries (I suspect including China) who have high enough frequency of executions to merit permanent, dedicated centres that we should worry about?
 
Horrific act for you but it's a punishment for us.

That would be against [SIZE=-1]the eighth amendment.[/SIZE]

No, it doesn't. The 8th Amendment says:

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Not a word on not throwing people to the lions.

"Cruel and unusual punishment" is most definitely up for interpretation. It is not some uninterpretable 11th Commandment.

There is nothing in the Founding Papers - the Holy Trinity of the United Stated of America - that prevents criminals from being thrown to the lions.
 
Similarly, I favor the death penalty. Does that mean I want to watch an execution? No. But just because I personally don't want to witness an execution, does that mean I'm a hypocrite for believing the death penalty should be on the books? I don't think so.

I think so.

If you want a certain kind of punishment for other people, the very least you should do is have the guts to see it carried out.
 
If the death penalty is to be used as a deterrent, wouldn’t it be a stronger deterrent if it were done as publicly, gruesomely and painfully as possible?

Not that I advocate this at all, just a thought.
 
No, it doesn't. The 8th Amendment says:



Not a word on not throwing people to the lions.

"Cruel and unusual punishment" is most definitely up for interpretation. It is not some uninterpretable 11th Commandment.

There is nothing in the Founding Papers - the Holy Trinity of the United Stated of America - that prevents criminals from being thrown to the lions.

The above requires the question, What do you believe constitutes cruel and unusual punishment as defined in the 8th amendment?


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I think so.

If you want a certain kind of punishment for other people, the very least you should do is have the guts to see it carried out.


Would this apply to the prison system too? What if I do not have a desire to view a prison or visit a prison; should I then hold the position that prisons not be used?

Does this logic apply to other things as well? Perhaps I do not wish to watch surgery performed; should I then be opposed to surgery because I choose not to witness it? Am I a hypocrite for supporting surgery whilst not wishing to bear witness to it?


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Has anyone else noticed that it seems like the most firm anti-abortion folks who defend the sanctity of human life above all else also support the death penalty?
 

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