Has Anyone Seen A Realistice Explanation For Free Fall Of The Towers?

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I think it's pretty obvious that all Christophera cares about is being the last person to post on this thread. In his fevered little brain, that's his idea of victory. Then he can tell his friends (imaginary, because I can't believe he has any real ones) how he "shut us all up." God Himself could appear and declare "Christophera, namesake of my only Son -- you are wrong. No concrete core," and it wouldn't matter, he'd still post that one insipid link and one irrelevant picture. He'll be here forever because, well, it's not like he's got a lot else going on.

So Chris, one last time: You're wrong, what you're doing is unhealthy, please seek help. Beyond that, good luck.
 
Christophera said:
Actually I've answered all these questions. You just don't like the answers.
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You did not answer any of these questions. Therefore I will ask them again:

Provide proof there was a footer poured for the concrete core.

Provide proof that "3'' high tensile" rebar was used.

Prove the document you posted about the concrete notes is real and not a fake. If it is real, why does it make no mention of concrete for the core?
 
Apollyon said:
You did not answer any of these questions. Therefore I will ask them again:

Provide proof there was a footer poured for the concrete core.

Provide proof that "3'' high tensile" rebar was used.

Prove the document you posted about the concrete notes is real and not a fake. If it is real, why does it make no mention of concrete for the core?
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Do you really think that the 1,300 foot tall concrete tube had no foundation? And if you cannot explain what those fine vertical elements are where 47, 1,300 foot columns should be seen then the steel columns did not exist because other images where they should show also do not reveal them.

I do not depend on the concrete schedule for evidence. I do not know it is real as I do with the images of the concrete core.
 
Christophera said:
Do you really think that the 1,300 foot tall concrete tube had no foundation? And if you cannot explain what those fine vertical elements are where 47, 1,300 foot columns should be seen then the steel columns did not exist because other images where they should show also do not reveal them.

I do not depend on the concrete schedule for evidence. I do not know it is real as I do with the images of the concrete core.
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Your picture is not acceptable evidence.
Please provide evidence supporting your claim other than the interpretation of pictures post-collapse.
 
Again Chris, excuse my ignorance but what the hell is a "concrete tube"? Is it an engeneering term?
 
Apollyon said:
That's not 3" rebar. That's rebar for the concrete floor.

btw, where a picture of the mesh you claimed they used on some floors?
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Do You really think a mesh of perhaps 10 gauge wire would actually survive the concrete surrounding it being pulverized? Or that if it did the photos would reveal the fragments?
 
Christophera said:
Do you really think that the 1,300 foot tall concrete tube had no foundation? And if you cannot explain what those fine vertical elements are where 47, 1,300 foot columns should be seen then the steel columns did not exist because other images where they should show also do not reveal them.

I do not depend on the concrete schedule for evidence. I do not know it is real as I do with the images of the concrete core.
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You still fail to grasp that your pictures are YOUR interpretation and do not constitute proof of any sort. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? You claims concernign the photos you link have no more validity than the person who linked to the photo of an alien spacecraft car.

And if you don't know if the concrete document is real, why post it as proof like you did?
 
Christophera said:
Do You really think a mesh of perhaps 10 gauge wire would actually survive the concrete surrounding it being pulverized? Or that if it did the photos would reveal the fragments?
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Please provide evidence that the mesh used was 10-gauge wire. Please also provide evidence that the wire would not survive the collapse of the building.

Please provide evidence supporting your claim other than the interpretation of pictures post-collapse.
 
Apollyon said:
You still fail to grasp that your pictures are YOUR interpretation and do not constitute proof of any sort. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? You claims concernign the photos you link have no more validity than the person who linked to the photo of an alien spacecraft car.

And if you don't know if the concrete document is real, why post it as proof like you did?
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All I said was that it showed that some floors had aggregate concrete and explained why. The photos confirm each other. Something very important in the forensic analysis.
 
Christophera--

1) You say that a concrete core is the only thing that can explain near free fall collapses. It occurs to me that a concrete core would give more resistance to falling debris rather than less, thus extending the time of collapse, not shortening it. (And don't say, well the core was pulverized. Your favorite photo is a shadowy figure you claim to be the core, which is still collapsing after teh rest of the building is gone.)

2) I don't see any evidence in the demo pictures of air conditioning units, desks, table lamps, decorative statuary, people, or Bic pens. Does that mean that none of these existed in the WTC?
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
Please provide evidence that the mesh used was 10-gauge wire. Please also provide evidence that the wire would not survive the collapse of the building.

Please provide evidence supporting your claim other than the interpretation of pictures post-collapse.
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Please provide evidence supporting your claim other than the mis interpretation of pictures from construction. If you do not like my interpretations then provide reasonable alternatives. Something I've been asking for since the beginning.
 
Christophera said:
Do You really think a mesh of perhaps 10 gauge wire would actually survive the concrete surrounding it being pulverized? Or that if it did the photos would reveal the fragments?
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iow, it somehow disappeared into nothingness which is why you can't produce any evidence of it?
 
Christophera said:
The photos confirm each other.
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Here, I'll climb on your shoulders... good, now you climb on my shoulders... great, we've reached the top of the wall!

Not "the photos." Your interpretations of the photos. Your interpretation does not in itself count as evidence. You need sanity checks. Your interpretations so far haven't passed sanity checks. F'rex, claiming to see three-inch rebar in a photo when pixel counts -- which you could easily have done yourself; no special technical knowledge is required -- disprove your claim.
 
Christophera said:
Please provide evidence supporting your claim other than the mis interpretation of pictures from construction. If you do not like my interpretations then provide reasonable alternatives. Something I've been asking for since the beginning.
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I am not the one making a claim. I am not saying that the interpretations of the photos are, or are not correct. I am saying that the photos are insufficient evidence. You request for an alternate theory, and if it fails or does materialize, your claim that that makes your theory correct; is a logical fallacy.

Please provide evidence supporting your claim other than the interpretation of pictures post-collapse.
 
Christophera, when can I expect that diagram of the many moving hallways in the towers?
 
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