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Geggy, your recent posts have convinced me.

Convinced me that you do not, yourself, believe the stuff you are posting here, and are just having fun making skeptics respond to stupidity with patience and diligence. It's like you finally found a person polite enough to open a door for you, so you keep going in and out, secretly snickering at the poor sap who continues to be polite.

Fortunately, these polite and diligent skeptics, as a side effect of entertaining you, have amassed a pile of information certain to convince anyone who is truly interested in seeing the truth. I am certain it has convinced you, for instance. You know, beyond any reasonable doubt, that the points you are arguing for are absurd, and that they have been answered.

I once had a student, in a class debate, paint herself into a corner where she was forced to argue in favor of polio and whooping cough (which she did) instead of retreating from her "good old days" stance (which she would never do). A friend here, when I spoke of it, said that it sounded like this student knew she was further and further out on this limb, had convinced herself that she was wrong, and simply needed to take her own argument to its absurd conclusion to convince herself. Well...you have taken your arguments to absurdity and back again. And I am convinced.

I hope you are enjoying it.
 
Pardalis said:
So the explosive device was exactly set to explode when the plane hit? Isn't it more logical to assume that what they heard WAS THE PLANE HITTING AND EXPLODING?

Then again, no, don't answer, I know what you'll say....
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Haven't you heard of super slow-mo controlled demolition by briefcase nuke? (remember, that's 2 briefcase nukes. Hmm, wonder what the seismic data shows...)
They invented controlled demolition that takes an hour so as not to have to invest in expensive high-speed cameras to capture the event. That couldn't be more obvious, silly geese.
 
geggy said:
(snip)Everytime I post something that could possibly be debunked, then you retort to even more insultings and focus on my weakness. True I don't know much about chemistry, engineering, etc. But I'm willing to listen to both sides of theories as to why the buildings fell. (snip)
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Geggy, since you admit you don't know much about chemistry, engineering, etc., why do you apparently refuse to listen to those on this forum that do know something about it?

You claim you are willing to listen, but after many, many, pages of information being given to you, you seem unwilling to accept almost everything presented.

I don't get it. Either you are open to facts, or you are putting your fingers in your ears and going "la-la-la, I can't hear you". Which is it?
 
geggy said:
Everytime I post something that could possibly be debunked, then you retort to even more insultings and focus on my weakness.
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Your weakness, as has been pointed out countless times, is your amazing ability to ignore solid evidence, while being able to provide absolutely no evidence of your own for your nutjob claims. That's our fault?
 
Azrael 5 said:
Blimey a lot of pages here!
Am I missing something here..someone was waiting in the basement with a nuke or demolition charges etc. waiting in case some planes flew into it so they could make it look like a terrorist attack?

Or was it a double conspiracy..planes were used to help the demolition process?
Has anyone mentioned UFO's yet? :D
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I think it was two seperate conspiracies. That they happened on the same day within an hour of one another is a mere coincidence.
 
My Ed...

A Nuke?

What about the EMP... I'm not a specialist, but the concrete at the basement would be enough to hold it?

And the blinding flash of light? Why there are no registers of light escaping through craks?

Where are the people with wounds caused by radiation? Even if decay was fast, folks were working quite close to the site just after the alleged detonation... Not to mention that the plume of smoke, ash and debris, that could be seen in satellite imagery should have scattered radioactive material through a vast area. Heck, if a dentist's office with a X-ray machine happened to be at the plume's path, the radiation controll tags perhaps would have indicated something...
 
Everything inside the towers were pulverized to fine dusts, including computers that contained lead, flourescent bulbs tghat contained mercury, fire alarms that contained radioactive chemical, etc, etc, and spreaded as far as the dust covered manhattan. EPA report of the dangerous level of toxins in the air were edited by the councils of the white house to make it sound less severe so they can reassure the air was safe to breath and they can get the wall street to reopen ASAP. My apologies I got it mixed up when I said EPA didn't provided masks. It was an actual fact that ground zero crews were not allowed to wear respirators because they thought "it would frighten the public" so says the white house, which is why you didn't see very many of them wearing respirators.
 
geggy said:
The physics of the wtc falling is much too similiar to building implosions, straight down and free fall.
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Since you know about physics, please provide me with evidence that this is so.

Hard for me to take anyone here seriously when they throw in insults and stick to their story without even entertaining the idea that the buildings may have been deliberately imploded with explosives.
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You deserve it for being deliberately ignorant. You've been told again and again that CT sites aren't going to get you closer to th etruth, yet you persist with them. You've been wrong every time, every day. How much more wrong could you be? What should we call you? You're either a foolish troll or an extremely stupid person. Sorry, but that's one thing I can back up with a huge amount of evidence. Can you provide evidence to refute that claim?

I'm not here to play games as it seems most of you are, I'm just trying to suggest that the commission report and the FEMA/NIST reports is a total fabrication without being labelled a conspiracy theorist.
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Please provide evidence that they are total fabrications. Do that, and then we'll consider you on the path to rehabilitation.

True the building could have fell as the bomb went off in the basement to cut the core columns, but the thing is that wtc towers are extremely sturdy buildings, it would take a stripping and cutting of the entire towers that the blasting in the basement could not have be able to take it down alone. I've seen puffs ejecting at an accelerating speed out of the building as it fell, which characterizes explosive charges that were going off. Why deny it?
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Why deny it? Because all the evidence opposes it, as do all the experts. Name one structural engineer, fire safety engineer, failure analyst or demolitions expert who agrees with you. Give me one name.
 
geggy said:
Everything inside the towers were pulverized to fine dusts, including computers that contained lead, flourescent bulbs tghat contained mercury, fire alarms that contained radioactive chemical, etc, etc, and spreaded as far as the dust covered manhattan. EPA report of the dangerous level of toxins in the air were edited by the councils of the white house to make it sound less severe so they can reassure the air was safe to breath and they can get the wall street to reopen ASAP. My apologies I got it mixed up when I said EPA didn't provided masks. It was an actual fact that ground zero crews were not allowed to wear respirators because they thought "it would frighten the public" so says the white house, which is why you didn't see very many of them wearing respirators.
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No, not everything was pulverised into dust. Were you ever at Ground Zero when the cleanup was going on?
 
geggy said:
Everything inside the towers were pulverized to fine dusts, including computers that contained lead, flourescent bulbs tghat contained mercury, fire alarms that contained radioactive chemical, etc, etc, and spreaded as far as the dust covered manhattan. EPA report of the dangerous level of toxins in the air were edited by the councils of the white house to make it sound less severe so they can reassure the air was safe to breath and they can get the wall street to reopen ASAP. My apologies I got it mixed up when I said EPA didn't provided masks. It was an actual fact that ground zero crews were not allowed to wear respirators because they thought "it would frighten the public" so says the white house, which is why you didn't see very many of them wearing respirators.
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Don't you get tired of hauling those goal posts around, geggy?

Do you admit that Silverstein (sp?) the owner, wasn't trying to avoid an asbestos clean up then? Yes or No please.

And please give your cite for your statement that the " ground zero crews were not allowed to wear respirators.......etc. Sorry, I don't believe you.
 
Correa Neto said:
My Ed...

A Nuke?

What about the EMP... I'm not a specialist, but the concrete at the basement would be enough to hold it?

And the blinding flash of light? Why there are no registers of light escaping through craks?

Where are the people with wounds caused by radiation? Even if decay was fast, folks were working quite close to the site just after the alleged detonation... Not to mention that the plume of smoke, ash and debris, that could be seen in satellite imagery should have scattered radioactive material through a vast area. Heck, if a dentist's office with a X-ray machine happened to be at the plume's path, the radiation controll tags perhaps would have indicated something...
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It didn't seem to affect people like Willie Rodriguez, who was in the basement, or dozens like him. They got out alive and seem to be living normal lives. You'd think that if they were in the basement when a nuclear device went off, they might have mentioned it. That would really be something to tell the grandkids.
 
Mercutio said:
Fortunately, these polite and diligent skeptics, as a side effect of entertaining you, have amassed a pile of information certain to convince anyone who is truly interested in seeing the truth. I am certain it has convinced you, for instance. You know, beyond any reasonable doubt, that the points you are arguing for are absurd, and that they have been answered.
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I hope you are enjoying it.
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What's that quote about not attributing to malice that which can be attributed to stupidity, or something like that?
 
geggy said:
Everything inside the towers were pulverized to fine dusts, including computers that contained lead, flourescent bulbs tghat contained mercury, fire alarms that contained radioactive chemical, etc, etc, and spreaded as far as the dust covered manhattan. EPA report of the dangerous level of toxins in the air were edited by the councils of the white house to make it sound less severe so they can reassure the air was safe to breath and they can get the wall street to reopen ASAP. My apologies I got it mixed up when I said EPA didn't provided masks. It was an actual fact that ground zero crews were not allowed to wear respirators because they thought "it would frighten the public" so says the white house, which is why you didn't see very many of them wearing respirators.
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Do you have any evidence to support any of these claims?

Also, I still would like to know what explosive causes pools of molten steel days after the explosion.
 
BTW, anyone else notice that the Flight 93 forum has been taken down? I bet they didn't expect the onslaught of conspiracy nutcases spamming their board w/ 2000 word cut and paste jobs of quotes and links from a million conspiracy nutter web sites.
 
bob_kark said:
Do you have any evidence to support any of these claims?

Also, I still would like to know what explosive causes pools of molten steel days after the explosion.
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Well, I will give him this, 43. There is mercury in fluorescent light bulbs, and there is Americium in many smoke detectors, probably some lead in computer CRT's as well.

The original discussion was asbestos, however. I'd like to get him to answer that one first.

Ah, shoot, I've already been sucked into his "pose another question" responses, instead of answering the question itself, so hey, I'll play along.......answer bob_karks question too, geggy. Just another one to add to your list of unanswered questions. (Where's Larsen when you need a list made, lol.:) )
 
Asbestos is also a mining town in Québec... My god, is there a Québec connection to the conspiracy?:jaw-dropp

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