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Is that generally agreed on, on this forum?
well,seeing as it's a matter of public record, I doubt you would find many people disagreeing with it, however what does it show?
That the military engages in training exercises from time to time? How is it relevant at all to the attack on the WTC?
Lots of unusual things where probably going on on the 11th of September 2001, but then lots of unusual things go on every day. Each day is unique, you have to do more than just point to infrequent occurrences which just happened to take place on that particular day in order to prove anything.
 
There is 1 scant, brief mention of one of the games going on on 911, in the Comission Report. Nothing about the others.

what about the one FEMA started on Sept 10th? Good job they were there set up and ready to go eh?
 
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There is 1 scant, brief mention of one of the games going on on 911, in the Comission Report. Nothing about the others.

what about the one FEMA started on Sept 10th? Good job they were there set up and ready to go eh?
what relevance does it have? You need facts, not snide innuendos, to prove your case. Were any of these "war games" going on anywhere near Washington or New York City? and if they where not, why would the 9/11 commission pay much attention to them?
 
Have fun in the camps after the government sponsored biological weapons attack.
This comment and its implcations have been nagging at my mind for the past couple of days, and I need to get some thoughts off my chest, namely this:
If Alek seriously believes it's the government's intention to infect and intern all of us credulous sheep, what measures has he himself taken to avoid sharing our fate? Has he holed himself up in some inhospitable and inaccessible area in the wilds of Idaho or Montana and cut himself off from all communication with the outside world, so that neither the government nor the Infected can find him? Evidently not. Instead, he's on the net with a readily traceable IP address, once the government puts the thumbscrews on his ISP, probably not at any significant distance from a major population center.

I'm reminded of the "Ground Zero Lounge" gathering shown in the P&T:BS! episode on conspiracy theories. Here's a bunch of people who claim to be convinced that the government is up to all kinds of nefarious activities, and what do they do? They assemble at an organized event, the time (every Monday night at 2000 Pacific time) and place (Dante's at SW 3rd and Burnside in Portland, OR) of which is public knowledge! How do they know the Shadowy Government Agency™ of their choice doesn't have the venue under surveillance, identifying potential troublemakers? Or has a raid team standing by to round the bunch of them up and spirit them off to an ultra-secret detention facility, followed by a quick trip to a mass grave in Nevada? How do they know the whole event hasn't been arranged by the SGA?

The only way this behavior makes sense is if none of these idiots genuinely believe the garbage they spew. They're just mentally masturbating to their own perceived cleverness, and don't really think that any of it is true. Maybe I should pop down to Portland one Monday, attend one of these Lounges, step up to the mic in my best Agent Smith look, and announce that everyone in the joint is being taken into precautionary detention and would they please file into the buses outside in an orderly fashion.
 
I cant believe the CTers goto this much effort.

I cant even get past the amount of people that would need to be involved.
That USA gov cant even conceal a sexual act between two people.

they are like ID'ers who find the gaps and say 'thats why it cant be true!'

Edit: Euromutt - I completely agree and that P&T episode made my jaw drop
 
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If Alek seriously believes it's the government's intention to infect and intern all of us credulous sheep, what measures has he himself taken to avoid sharing our fate? Has he holed himself up in some inhospitable and inaccessible area in the wilds of Idaho or Montana and cut himself off from all communication with the outside world, so that neither the government nor the Infected can find him? Evidently not. Instead, he's on the net with a readily traceable IP address, once the government puts the thumbscrews on his ISP, probably not at any significant distance from a major population center.

They never do. The ones who complain the loudest about the evil oil companies ruling us all never take public trans. or bike to work. They always are the ones who drive one to a car. If you mention it they act as if their location and lack of effort is the oil companies' fault. I've met arch-conservative neo-cons who do more to not burn oil on a daily basis than these folks do. Its easier to complain about imaginary future threats from Bush's oil buddies and their biotech ways (!) than to actually do something about them.

Conspiracy theories are opiates of the self-impressed. They are for people who aren't smart enough in normal fields of study to make a 'name' for themselves so they jump into a world of vauge evidence and imaginary shadow figures and all of a sudden they are special for knowing what the rest of us sheeple don't know. They are suddenly part of a select 'elite' who are in the know that something happened, just don't be too specifics about what happened and you can stay in your fuzzy shadow world.
 
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Huh? Lets take all the people off of the planes, destroy other planes, then put all the extra people onto one plane and blow it up over land, where the remains of bodies are to be found, then blow up the extra planes over the ocean at night, where the bodies won't be found.

It's tough to come up with a worse plan. It really is.
Agreed, and hey, let's blow up WTC 7 while we are at it. Why? It houses Rudi Guiliani's office. Seriously, this is one of the answers I got when I asked why WTC 7 along with offices of the CIA and there was lot's of evidence there. So what if there are offices there? Wouldn't be easier to dispose of evidence just by putting it in an incinerator rather than destroying an entire building?

The pathology of these folks is astounding.
 
Agreed, and hey, let's blow up WTC 7 while we are at it. Why? It houses Rudi Guiliani's office. Seriously, this is one of the answers I got when I asked why WTC 7 along with offices of the CIA and there was lot's of evidence there. So what if there are offices there? Wouldn't be easier to dispose of evidence just by putting it in an incinerator rather than destroying an entire building?

Naaah! Let's blow up the building and risk a random clean-up crewman having a chance to find the incriminating stuff.

The pathology of these folks is astounding.

Indeed. The idea that Rudy Guilliani would have any part in such destruction of the city he worked so hard for could only come in the pathetic, slimesucking, wetpants fantasy of a 9/11 CT'er. Do these guys pay attention to anything outside of their little conspiracy theory toys?
 
I when I was looking around for a source of LC so I could watch this drivel, i came across his nice little video, it seems there are others out there fighting this nonsense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SgjWGVHxW8&search=loose%20change
I like the fact that this shows that a little critical thinking and research can show loose change for the lying propaganda it is.

Zing!

Good find brodski. And good for that guy making the film. Of course, he's obviously a gov'ment disinfo agent.
 
I don't know what really happend [sic] at the Pentagon, but I find the official story to be a lie.
:rolleyes: Ignorance on parade.

Yet we don't ban you do we Alek. Free speech is alive and well here. No one is asking you to leave. We don't for one simple reason, we are not threatened by the truth.

I've seen your damn movie. I'm doing my homework. I challenge any of the Loose Brainers to come here and debate the issues. I'd go there to do it but you guys can't handle the heat and you banned me.

One word of caution. While I will follow the rules of this forum and not engage in personal attack I won't be quite as *decorous as I was at loose change.

Oh, and tell any of your friends over there to bring a dictionary because I'm not going to dumb myself down for you guys. This is the only time I'm going to look up a word for you (see below).

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Wouldn't be easier to dispose of evidence just by putting it in an incinerator rather than destroying an entire building?
I don't know. It seems to me like those in charge of the conspiracy are just too creative. The power has clearly gone to their heads.

I can picture it now... 5 guys in a dark room smoking cigars. A young man enters and exclaims, "We've got a problem. Tom left some paperwork in WTC7!"
CSM#1: Well, blow it up!
CSM#2: You can't just BLOW IT UP! Honestly, #1...
CSM#1: I'm sorry. You're right. Fly a robot plane into it.
CSM#2: We already did that today!
CSM#3: Fill the building with explosives!
CSM#1: And set it on fire!
CSM#2: We did that, too!
CSM#4: I've got it! An invisible robot missile plane shaped like a guitar!
CSM#3: Brilliant!
CSM#2: That should keep the "truth seekers" busy...
 
Check out this thread, Was The Date Chosen To Polarize Us?

Riiiight, they actually picked 9/11 because they thought it would polarize people.... :rolleyes: huh?

My response which seemed to get people angry.

Bush: Well we need a date.
Cheney: How about 9/11?
Bush: Why 9/11?
Cheney: Think about it,.... oh wait, never mind. 9/11 is the number for emergency.
Bush: I don't get it.
Cheney: It will enrage and polarize people even more.
Bush: So you are saying that doing this on 9/11 will have more of an effect than 9/12
Cheney: You bechya.
This was not appreciated.

Loose Brains, no thinking required.
 
I'll see what they think of my take on the date. It's scary how easy this stuff is...
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Did you see my post about the coincidences between Lincoln and JFK? It's two posts above yours.

Alek

9/11 has occult numerological significance. Consider the towers themselves resembled an 11, they each had 110 stories. They each had 47 (4+7) steel columns. The WTC 7 building had 47 floors. Flight 11 struck the north tower.

The towers were not unlike the pillars Jachin and Boaz found on the porch of Solomon's temple, and found within every Masonic temple.

The Pentagon groundbreaking ceremony was held on September 11th, 1941, 60 years before 9/11.

Of course, this is just symbolism, none of it can be proven.
:rolleyes:

woo-woo

And no one there challenges this $h!t. What the hell does the symbolism have to do with anything? Come on folks. HeeeelllloooooOOOO.........

Woo #1: Oh look, there is conincidential symolism.
Woo #2: What does it mean?
Woo #1: I don't know.
Woo #2: Why is it there?
Woo #1: I don't know.
Woo #2: Then what's the point?
Woo #1: Point? I have no point!
 
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Did you see my post about the coincidences between Lincoln and JFK? It's two posts above yours.

:rolleyes:

woo-woo

And no one there challenges this $h!t. What the hell does the symbolism have to do with anything? Come on folks. HeeeelllloooooOOOO.........

Woo #1: Oh look, there is conincidential symolism.
Woo #2: What does it mean?
Woo #1: I don't know.
Woo #2: Why is it there?
Woo #1: I don't know.
Woo #2: Then what's the point?
Woo #1: Point? I have no point!
That they don't understand the point is only further evidence of the depth and complexity of the evil plot.
 
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