Gaza residents surviving off animal feed and rice as food dwindles

[Planigale]

You can pretend that this opinion is universal, but it isn't. Nor is the popularity of an opinion an indication that it is correct.

Israel has the capability of killing everyone in Gaza. They have not done so. They are not trying to do so.

Hamas does not have the capability of killing everyone in Israel. But they are trying to do so, and they brag about it openlytemn
You have sided with monsters, and called yourself moral because those monsters are weak. But weakness is not virtue.

Reference please? Your statement is in the present tense, so you need to justify it by current Hamas policy not a statement from decades ago that has bee repudiated by Hamas. I can certainly provide (and have done so previously) statements by the current Hamas organisation repudiating killing Jews because they are Jews, Even ones offering to accept the existence of Israel.

 

[Planigale]

But that's not where the alleged genocide is happening.

In a sense, you are correct. I am biased in favor of western liberal values. I am biased against racist, sexist, homophobic, and generally repressive Islamist values. I am biased in favor of those who would ally with me, and against those who would kill me.

You feel otherwise, apparently. Suicidal empathy.

What about the genocide of Christian Palestinians?

 

[Ziggurat]

What about the genocide of Christian Palestinians?

The muslim population of Gaza and the West Bank has been growing for decades (another obvious indicator of the lie of genocide). During those same decades, the Christian population has collapsed. Mostly not genocide, but ethnic cleansing.

By Palestinian muslims, not by Israel.

 

[Ziggurat]

Reference please? Your statement is in the present tense, so you need to justify it by current Hamas policy not a statement from decades ago that has bee repudiated by Hamas

Sure, Hamas repudiated their policy statement advocating genocide.

And then they attacked on Oct. 7.

Which do you take as a better indicator of their true intent, their repudiation, or their attack?

 

[smartcooky]

And what am I allowed to say when they are committing genocide?

They aren't. The are prosecuting a war against those who attacked them; against an implacable enemy whose entire aim is to wipe all of them off the face of the planet, i.e. to commit a genocide against THEM!

The framing of the Gaza war as a genocide is a political subterfuge born out of virulent anti-Semitism. Gullible Leftists fall for Islamist rhetoric every time (see Iran 1979).

I suspect that is the majority position in much of Western Europe

Indeed it is.. see what I said above about gullible leftists.

 

[smartcooky]

Israel isn't as evil as Hamas. Not even close.

I would love for one of these lefties to quote for me all the times that Israeli terrorists carried out terrorist attacks anywhere in the rest of the world. Attacks such as blowing up embassies in other countries, or blowing up school buses full of children, or hijacking planes full of passengers and flying them into buildings

Partial List of Islamic Terror attacks on the world​

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1985 (France) Paris bomb attacks.​

1990 (USA) The assasination of Meir Kahane.​

1992 (Somalia - US target) Aden Hotel bombing.​

1993 (USA) World Trade Centre bombing.​

1998 (Kenya -US target) Embassy bombing.​

1998 (Tanzania - US target) Embassy bombing.​

2000 (Yemen - US target) Attack on the USS Cole.​

2001 (Usa)The 9/11 attacks.​

2002 (Indonesia) The Bali bombings.​

2003 (Saudi Arabia) The Riyad Compound bombings.​

2004 (Spain) Madrid Train bombings.​

2005 (England) The London Underground and Bus bombings.​

2005 (Indonesia) Tentena market bombings.​

2006 (India) Mumbai train bombings​

2008 (India) Jaipur bombings.​

2009 (Pakistan) The Sri-Lankan cricket team attack.​

2010 (Russia) Moscow metro attacks.​

2012 (France) Toulouse and Montauban shootings.​

2012 (Dagestan) Makhachkalal attack.​

2013 (USA) Boston Marathon Bombing.​

2013 (Kenya) The Naoribi shopping mall attack.​

2014 (Australia) Endeavour Hills attacks.​

2014 (Russia) Grozny bombing.​

2014 (Canada) Ottawa shootings.​

2014 (Australia) Lindt Cafe attack.​

2015 (France) The Charlie Hebdo attacks.​

2015 (Denmark) Copenhagen Synagogue attack.​

2015 (Iraq - US target)Erbil Consulate attack.​

2015 (Turkiye) Diyarbakır rally bombings.​

2016 (France) Nice Truck attack.​

2017 (England) Manchester Arena bombing.​

2017 (England) Westiminster Bridge attack.​

2019 (Germany) Halle Synagogue attack.​

2021 (New Zealand) Auckland supermarket stabbing:​

2022 (Norway) Oslo shooting attack.​

2023 (Drance) Arras school stabbing.​

2023 (Belgium) Brussels shooting attack.​

2024 (Russia) Crocus City Hall attack.​

2024 (Dagestan)Two Synagogue attacks.​

2025 (USA)New Orleans truck attack.​

2025 (Austria)Villach stabbing attack.​

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Full List of Jewish Terror attacks on the world​

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NONE!​

 

[smartcooky]

Reference please? Your statement is in the present tense, so you need to justify it by current Hamas policy not a statement from decades ago that has bee repudiated by Hamas. I can certainly provide (and have done so previously) statements by the current Hamas organisation repudiating killing Jews because they are Jews, Even ones offering to accept the existence of Israel.

Its disturbing to me that anyone can be naive enough to be taken in by that. Are you Neville Chamberlain reincarnated?

Leopards do not change their spots.

 

[smartcooky]

What about the genocide of Christian Palestinians?

Asked and answered!

 

[Trausti]

There are Palestinians on the West Bank, and it is obvious that Ben-Gvir is encouraging the settlers to attack them. Because he is a monster.

I think this is correct. If you want to see Israelis behaving badly, go to the West Bank. But Gaza isn't genocide. Don't debase the word. Gaza is just urban warfare for a war started by HAMAS. Whether Vicksburg, Stalingrad, Berlin, Manila, Homs, or Fallujah, urban warfare is terrible on civilians.

 

[The Atheist]

I didn't say I was shocked. I said they want to kill me. They want to kill you too.

Absurdly incorrect, but hey, it comforts you.

I am perfectly capable of being vehemently against fundamentalist islamism, and also be as vehemently against the present Israeli government with its genocidal proponents, like Smotrich and Ben-Gvir. It's actually quite easy. I recommend it.

Antisemite!1!!

There are Palestinians on the West Bank, and it is obvious that Ben-Gvir is encouraging the settlers to attack them. Because he is a monster.

You need to realise that yotheur pov is heavily biased.

Sigh. I ought to know better than start discussing this with you. You are unable to see what is in front of your eyes. And you seem a tag desperate; serving Hamas, by expressing my opinion on an obscure forum? While clearly stating that I have no love for Hamad? In which case you are serving Smotrich and Ben-Gvir, and serving them so much better, than i'll ever serve Hamas.

Bravo!

I suspect that is the majority position in much of Western Europe

It's the entire world. From China to Nigeria to Brazil, people and countries have taken a stand.

The right one.

I would love for one of these lefties to quote for me all the times that Israeli terrorists carried out terrorist attacks anywhere in the rest of the world

How typical you go the totally gutless route by simply using a failed tu quoque.

They are committing terrorist attacks every day.

As to the terrible Islamists who want to kill you, it's another feeble attempt to deflect by demonising one side. Of course, you make no mention of anti-Islam terror incidents, despite the deadliest one being right in your back yard! Do you have a hero picture of Brenton Tarrant on your wall too?

 

[Ziggurat]

It's the entire world. From China to Nigeria to Brazil, people and countries have taken a stand.

China is committing actual genocide against the Uighur.

But that doesn't concern you. Because you don't actually care about genocide.

 

[smartcooky]

Absurdly incorrect, but hey, it comforts you.



Antisemite!1!!



Bravo!



It's the entire world. From China to Nigeria to Brazil, people and countries have taken a stand.

The right one.



How typical you go the totally gutless route by simply using a failed tu quoque.

They are committing terrorist attacks every day.

As to the terrible Islamists who want to kill you, it's another feeble attempt to deflect by demonising one side. Of course, you make no mention of anti-Islam terror incidents, despite the deadliest one being right in your back yard! Do you have a hero picture of Brenton Tarrant on your wall too?

You're boring, and your anti-Semitism is wearing thin.

Play another tune.

 

[The Atheist]

China is committing actual genocide against the Uighur.

But that doesn't concern you. Because you don't actually care about genocide.

Tu quoque much?

And you have no idea what I think about the Uighurs. You're welcome to start a thread about it, but this one is about the genocide being committed by Israel.

Typically feeble, fallacious response when defending the indefensible.

...your anti-Semitism ...

Again, it's all you have, and it's utter nonsense.

Like the above response, you're proving your lack of balls with every word.

 

[smartcooky]

Emily Schrader...speaking truth to idiots...

 

[The Atheist]

Again, I'd find that hilarious if it weren't genocide apologism from someone who works for an organisation best described as:

"An organisation that functions as a pro-Israel think tank that produces hard-line opinions behind a 'National Post Wire Service' disguise"

Hasbara-funded tripe, of course you like it. I repeat, you're in a minority that shrinks by the day.

 

[smartcooky]

Again, I'd find that hilarious if it weren't genocide apologism from someone who works for an organisation best described as:

"An organisation that functions as a pro-Israel think tank that produces hard-line opinions behind a 'National Post Wire Service' disguise"

Hasbara-funded tripe, of course you like it. I repeat, you're in a minority that shrinks by the day.

Meh, ya still boring.

This is just your usual fact-free tirade when you cannot deal with the truth.

 

[smartcooky]

Maj John Spencer, an expert in urban warfare, has been on the ground in Gaza multiple times. He speaks the truth about what is really happening in Gaza

Teaser...


Full interview here
TFP interviews Maj. John Spencer

As long as the media continues to uncritically accept the Palestinian authority (i.e. Hamas) version of what is going on in Gaza, and use that as their only source of news and information about the region, the general public will remain uninformed, eating up the lies that Hamas is feeding them.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

If it's so clear, why has Israel not let any journalists into Gaza unless embedded with the IDF, and selectively killed dozens and dozens of Gazan journalists?

Why don't you ask the reporters who had members of their crew murdered by the IDF what they think?

One biased and access controlled source shouldn't be what you base all your information on.

 

[The Atheist]

Meh, ya still boring.

This is just your usual fact-free tirade when you cannot deal with the truth.

I gave you a list of countries that have adjudged Israel's actions as genocide.

You post one Zionazi's opinion and then talk about truth? Another which would be laughable on any other subject. You're really scraping the sludge from the bottom of the cesspool now.

I note you haven't responded to the anti-Islam terrorism attacks I posted in answer to your other absurd claim that Islamists want to kill everyone.

 

[smartcooky]

If it's so clear, why has Israel not let any journalists into Gaza unless embedded with the IDF, and selectively killed dozens and dozens of Gazan journalists?

Why don't you ask the reporters who had members of their crew murdered by the IDF what they think?

One biased and access controlled source shouldn't be what you base all your information on.

Do you trust "information" supplied to the media by Hamas?