Merged Arday life and death

[dirtywick]

You can go look at my previous posts, I've said the opposite. Sure, there may be, probably is a racist pile, that doesn't mean this isn't a story or that Arday wasn't a fraud. Its like OJ, he was probably guilty and probably framed for the crime he committed.

ok, i believe you. it sounded like you were being sarcastic is all

 

[Rolfe]

A persistent vegetative state where he can move his eyes and blink? Plus I think that a simple EEG would have cleared up the difference. I mean, I can see how that story would seem plausible for Arday, since he was just as clueless about anything else, but to me it just tells me that he was lying. A whole hospital wouldn't be just clueless.

PVS and locked in are completely different, almost opposite, things.

We know all that, but Arday doesn't seem to have known it. As usual he was simply fabulating on the hoof. But his tales mostly seem to have been based on some actual event, so I wondered what might have set this one off.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

In case it wasn't clear, I'm even more clueless about WTH could he have mistaken for THAT. No reasonable explanation comes to my mind.

I mean, I may not have medical qualifications, but I'm someone who routinely remembers dreams. (Although only the last one. If I sleep for an hour, I remember the dream I woke up from. If I sleep 4 hours, still just one. I guess only waking up fails to flush the buffer, so to speak.) And I had some wild ones, ranging from being nuked like in Fallout (turns out that dying in a dream just makes you wake up) to being the butt of the joke or the villain. I can assure you that even as dreams go, I've never had anything even remotely like THAT.

Plus, honestly, why would a brain even come up with a boring dream scenario like being locked in?

 

[Planigale]

And where do you think that oedema goes, when a blood clot blocks a vein? There's not all that much blood that goes into the fat around your legs. And what does it do to your muscles when the same blood flow is restricted to them either way? Where does that extra fluid GO when it can't go out?

But yes, that kind of swelling AFAIK causes compartment syndrome. In fact, any massive swelling in the legs does. Blood clots are a common cause of compartment syndrome. (@Rolfe, you're the expert, help a bro out here one way or another.)

Pretty sure I am an expert, I treat people with swollen legs frequently. Most of the excess fluid in swollen leg is in the skin and underlying tissue. Heart failure, obesity and blood clots are the commonest cause of swollen legs. Compartment syndrome usually only affects one muscle group, usually due to trauma, but excess exercise can cause a compartment syndrome usually in the lower leg.

 

[Vixen]

Yeah, many people in their 70s, and many people with severe conditions. Just not many people in their 30s who experienced ALL of those things within a relatively short period of their lives, while also being an active athlete and attaining a doctorate.

It's the combination of things that should raise some red flags. And frankly, I'm at a loss as to how you can so placidly accept them all as being completely true.

Global Childhood Development syndrome, autism, selective mutism, dyslexia and epilepsy are not at all mutually exclusive or 'fabulist'. In addition, it is possible to have had all of this and yet be highly intelligent enough to obtain a degree and a doctorate. The thesis picked apart by Cofnas out of idle spite against one successful individual contained what John Moores Liverpool Uni accepted was an honest oversight. That lady, IS accredited in his bibliography so hardly something a cheat would do.

Whilst two of his papers have been picked apart by Thiel- and Elon Musk-backed far right political activists, that is only two out of his 33 papers.

In addition, as for the 'fabulist' mugging and asking the judge for mercy towards his attackers; just so you know, in the UK, victims of crime are invited to provide an impact statement. Whilst this is directed at the convicted defendant, all court matters are addressed to the Judge. So again, not at all 'fabulist' , except in the minds of the envious.

 

[Darat]

In case it wasn't clear, I'm even more clueless about WTH could he have mistaken for THAT. No reasonable explanation comes to my mind.

I mean, I may not have medical qualifications, but I'm someone who routinely remembers dreams. (Although only the last one. If I sleep for an hour, I remember the dream I woke up from. If I sleep 4 hours, still just one. I guess only waking up fails to flush the buffer, so to speak.) And I had some wild ones, ranging from being nuked like in Fallout (turns out that dying in a dream just makes you wake up) to being the butt of the joke or the villain. I can assure you that even as dreams go, I've never had anything even remotely like THAT.

Plus, honestly, why would a brain even come up with a boring dream scenario like being locked in?

Was he ever in ICU? If so ICU delirium?

 

[Planigale]

The book was actually ghost-written. This is absolutely insane, for an autobiography of a senior academic who lives by his writing. It also explains the glaring difference between the rambling nonsense of Arday's own output and the literate, well-crafted prose in the book.

We're forgetting the time he spent in locked-in syndrome, listening to the doctors advising his parents to turn off life support but unable to respond.

ETA: That wasn't the car crash incident, that was caused by a racial attack from some youths. Arday pleaded with the police not to prosecute them (from within his locked-in syndrome, we may assume), and they were so grateful they became reformed characters.

People have recovered from locked in syndrome, but they have been left seriously disabled. More likely he was just sedated or even medically paralysed if he had suffered serious trauma from being attacked.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Was he ever in ICU? If so ICU delirium?

I suppose that if the attack is real, he would have been in the ICU. But you are more qualified to judge.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

People have recovered from locked in syndrome, but they have been left seriously disabled. More likely he was just sedated or even medically paralysed if he had suffered serious trauma from being attacked.

I can accept that, but I don't think any doctor in the world would actually propose to have him put down when they're the ones who caused the immobility, and KNOW it's only temporary until he's taken off those drugs. Because it was also a part of his story that he heard the doctor telling his parents that they should just unplug him. So the total story is still a lie.

 

[Planigale]

Ha ha ha, NO. Just no. A benign skin tumour like a lipoma or keratoma is NOTHING like a glioma. I had a lipoma and got operated for it. It was just an inconvenience. ANY type of GLIOMA is NOT benign. In fact, as I just said, it includes some of the most aggressive types of cancer know to man, all the way to grade 4. (Grade 4: better start practising yoga real quick so you can kiss your ass goodbye in time.)

And here's a 'fun' thing about things growing in your brain (tumour or haematoma or whatever): the brain is enclosed in a rigid fixed-volume skull. Anything growing inside causes pressure, which can get as bad as eventually pushing your actual brain through your eye sockets like toothpaste. It's a medical emergency, not something you can just endure by force of will.

There are certainly a number of genetic syndromes that have skin tumours and brain tumours the most famous being neurofibromatosis, See Joseph Merrick the elephant man. I could name a number of rarer syndromes.

The definition of benign and malignant in brain tumours is difficult. Usually when people talk about malignant tumours they mean ones that metastasise, brain tumours rarely metastasise, but do kill. I think you are reffering to glioblastomas. The commonest brain tumours are meningiomas most of which (90%) are beningn, grow slowly but can cause seizures and disability.

The brain nearly always get pushed down into the big hole where the spine joins the brain, not out of the eye sockets. 'Coning' is the fatal process when the posterioor brain controlling the heart and breathing gets pushed down and squeezed resulting in death, the main cause of death after head injury.

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

I was only commenting on it not being a glioma, not neurofibromatosis or meningioma. And, as you say, even those can cause disabilities.

 

[theprestige]

There are certainly a number of genetic syndromes that have skin tumours and brain tumours the most famous being neurofibromatosis, See Joseph Merrick the elephant man. I could name a number of rarer syndromes.

The definition of benign and malignant in brain tumours is difficult. Usually when people talk about malignant tumours they mean ones that metastasise, brain tumours rarely metastasise, but do kill. I think you are reffering to glioblastomas. The commonest brain tumours are meningiomas most of which (90%) are beningn, grow slowly but can cause seizures and disability.

The brain nearly always get pushed down into the big hole where the spine joins the brain, not out of the eye sockets. 'Coning' is the fatal process when the posterioor brain controlling the heart and breathing gets pushed down and squeezed resulting in death, the main cause of death after head injury.

Maybe Jason Arday had one of those, and that's what killed him?

 

[Rolfe]

The sheer breadth of the nonsense is impressive though. £55 million raised for charity. As someone said, I went out with a collecting tin on Red Cross week. The entire campaign raised £1 million, so can I say I raised £1 million for the Red Cross?

Any one of these half-dozen major medial/surgical incidents he describes has clear potential to cause life-long disability. At the very least a prolonged period of rehabilitation would be required. Each time. But he's running marathons and getting advanced degrees, and how much time is there anyway from him learning to read and write at eighteen and getting his first professorship to fit in all these medical time-outs?

 

[Vixen]

The sheer breadth of the nonsense is impressive though. £55 million raised for charity. As someone said, I went out with a collecting tin on Red Cross week. The entire campaign raised £1 million, so can I say I raised £1 million for the Red Cross?

Any one of these half-dozen major medial/surgical incidents he describes has clear potential to cause life-long disability. At the very least a prolonged period of rehabilitation would be required. Each time. But he's running marathons and getting advanced degrees, and how much time is there anyway from him learning to read and write at eighteen and getting his first professorship to fit in all these medical time-outs?

5m. Not 55m. Bearing in mind, it was Arday's concept and initiative that brought in £2 5m funding whilst he was at Durham Uni. Plus an audit trail of £100K personally (Bravo!!!). The 5m was cited in a pep talk in the USA so likely a US Dollar quote. Arday told a hack the remainder refers to a 100-syndicate. There is nothing Walter Mitty here, either. Keep trying...

 

[Rolfe]

£5.5 million. I missed the decimal point. Forgive me, I'm typing on a broken wrist. Dollars, pounds, phooey.

Grant money brought into a university is not funds raised for charity. He did raise some money for charity and good on him. Just like he no doubt did a bit of running. It's the fantastical exaggerations that are the issue.

 

[ahhell]

ok, i believe you. it sounded like you were being sarcastic is all

I was, I don't think the racists are a significant part of the pile just that they are a part of it.

 

[dirtywick]

I was, I don't think the racists are a significant part of the pile just that they are a part of it.

oh ok. seems misguided to me, unless you think if this wasn’t a woke dei thing a significant part of the pile would have shown up.

 

[ahhell]

oh ok. seems misguided to me, unless you think if this wasn’t a woke dei thing a significant part of the pile would have shown up.

I don't think anti-woke/DEI necessarily equates to racist.

 

[Ziggurat]

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[dirtywick]

I don't think anti-woke/DEI necessarily equates to racist.

kind of tough to keep the racists out of it tho, isn’t it?

plus if you own media and want to push narratives to create social division, this kind of stuff is a prime candidate. especially in this media landscape, anytime you see a minor local issue turning into national headlines on a left vs right divide, you should probably be on guard as to why that is. and this one is pretty obvious. that’s my opinion