Apollo 11 Moon Landing Revisited: Hoax ~vs~ Debunk

[Reformed Offlian]

Then what is it?

I think it's an actual model.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Then what is it?

From Space 1999.
It's a model shot.

 

[GlennB]

I think it's an actual model.

My first thought was that it's from a TV program.

 

[Joe Random]

I guess if I needed to have explained my 'joke' ...

I'll just be over here in my cultural bubble, re-watching 'The Troubled Spirit'.

 

[Myriad]

The Space 1999 screen shots illustrate what might be an actual relevant point here: it's possible that some of the intransigence over the insistence that bright stars "should" be visible in Apollo photographs is because it contradicts some people's lived experience of watching movies in which they've seen spacecraft take off from a planet's surface in broad daylight and go whizzing through the murky atmosphere in a few blurry seconds and then suddenly they reach SPACE and immediately bright stars are clearly visible. It doesn't matter that there's been insufficient time for anyone's eyes to adjust to darkness of space; it doesn't matter if there are other ships or ones own ship still lit by daylight in the same field of view; it doesn't matter if those ships are the size of cities and lit up like used car lots; it doesn't matter if there are also enormous sunlit moons or planets or planet-sized space stations also filling the view; it doesn't even matter if our plucky craft is dodging incoming energy weapon fire of sufficient brightness to damage or destroy any object it hits. When you're in space in movies the stars are right there out and proud.

You can calculate ISOs and exposure times and f stops til the cow that jumped over the moon splashes down, but it won't convince someone who's been there in a cinema to see the stars pop out like the Main Street Electrical Parade as their hired Corellian light freighter or converted Hervester Attacker or jury-rigged Bird of Prey or even customized Space Shuttle breaks through the upper atmosphere.

 

[threadworm]

I guess if I needed to have explained my 'joke' ...

I'll just be over here in my cultural bubble, re-watching 'The Troubled Spirit'.

Space 1999 was not averse to using Apollo images of Earth when they needed to, but in this case they've used an ATS-3 satellite view, rotated 90 degrees.

File:ATS-3 full disc image Forerunner of GOES satellite system (2268-402).jpg - Wikimedia Commons

commons.wikimedia.org

 

[Axxman300]

Then what is it?

Moonbase Alpha from Space:1999. Fun show. The Eagle is an iconic scifi space ship.


This BBC short is a nice primer on mid-1970s special effects. Brian Johnson, the SFX supervisor, recently passed away.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Anyway, we all know that Nazi Germany got to the Moon first: I've seen a documentary about it.

 

[Mojo]

Anyway, we all know that Nazi Germany got to the Moon first: I've seen a documentary about it.

Presumably they shot down the Lancaster that was found there.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

NVM

 

[bknight]

From Space 1999.
It's a model shot.
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How quickly I forget.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

How quickly I forget.

<shrug> Fifty years.

 

[LondonJohn]

Vixen made a fool of herself, again, but if you've missed it don't worry. She'll be along to do it some more soon I'm sure.

It's certainly a much calmer and more measured read without those frequent torrents of sewage pouring into the thread.

 

[Lithrael]

This BBC short is a nice primer on mid-1970s special effects.

This is quite timely, as Brian Johnson died recently.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

This is quite timely, as Brian Johnson died recently.

Ah. I think this is where I came in. <gets coat>

 

[Smock]

Vixen made a fool of herself, again, but if you've missed it don't worry. She'll be along to do it some more soon I'm sure.

I'm convinced it's a humiliation fetish. The only rational explanation I can think of.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

I'm convinced it's a humiliation fetish. The only rational explanation I can think of.

"Rational" is doing some heavy lifting there.

 

[Darat]

<shrug> Fifty years.

Liar - it was merely a few years back, I remember it well. Now what did I come into this room - whichever room it is - for?

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Liar - it was merely a few years back, I remember it well. Now what did I come into this room - whichever room it is - for?

It's a goat!


(Although in the context of this debacle of a thread a mutant star goat could be appropriate.)

 

[Helen]

Liar - it was merely a few years back, I remember it well. Now what did I come into this room - whichever room it is - for?

I just came in here to open the fridge, and stare into it for a while, and then close it again. Not sure why, though.