Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed

[Carrot Flower King]

I've started a business manufacturing artifical pearls out of foam rubber. They can be clutched over and over without harm to either necklace or fingers.

Are you exporting to the UK? Looks like a lot of folk over here are needing them just now.

 

[LDE1976]

I've started a business manufacturing artifical pearls out of foam rubber. They can be clutched over and over without harm to either necklace or fingers.

Helps protect oyster beds, too. I trust that you're using natural latex from a sustainable source and not the non-biodegradable synthetic stuff, so that MAGA types can at least offset the damage they're doing to the environment in a small, indirect way.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

I've started a business manufacturing artifical pearls out of foam rubber. They can be clutched over and over without harm to either necklace or fingers.

I've been wondering why my sales are down.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

A horrible person was killed by gin violence -

I don't think anyone involved was drunk.

 

[Ziggurat]

TL DR

Kirk advocateed political violence and was killed by political violence

Kirk advocated dialogue as an alternative to violence, and practiced what he preached.

He was killed for it. Because some people prefer violence to dialogue. And you're going after the man who engaged in dialogue, not the man who engaged in violence.

 

[jimbob]

Kirk advocated dialogue as an alternative to violence, and practiced what he preached.

He was killed for it. Because some people prefer violence to dialogue. And you're going after the man who engaged in dialogue, not the man who engaged in violence.

And that's why he said that "a patriot" should bail out the attacker of Paul Pelosi.

A victim who wasn't even a political opponent, just the spouse of one.

 

[jimbob]

Kirk advocated dialogue as an alternative to violence, and practiced what he preached.

He was killed for it. Because some people prefer violence to dialogue. And you're going after the man who engaged in dialogue, not the man who engaged in violence.

Also.

It's bad that he was shot. But he liked making jokes about the victims of political violence.

And advocated killing homosexuals

https://twitter.com/x/status/1800678317030564306

He advocated violence against trans people.

And in calling for Nuremberg trials of doctors treating trans people, was calling for them also to be killed.

So not exactly an advocate for peace.

 

[Ziggurat]

It's bad that he was shot. But he liked making jokes about the victims of political violence.

People make jokes about all sorts of things that they think are bad. Making a joke about something is not a sign of approval for that thing. Why do you need this explained to you?

And advocated killing homosexuals

You really don't understand his argument at all, which had nothing to do with Kirk advocating killing homosexuals (he didn't), and everything to do with calling out Ms. Rachel as being a faker on religious issues.

 

[dirtywick]

his wife didn't even care when he died

 

[ahhell]

I don't think anyone involved was drunk.

I wouldn't bet on that.

 

[Ziggurat]

his wife didn't even care when he died

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

If the occasional school shooting is the price for the 2A, isn't the occasional assassination an equal price?

Again, shouldn't he be proud of his fellow Americans standing up against tyranny with guns?

 

[Ziggurat]

If the occasional school shooting is the price for the 2A, isn't the occasional assassination an equal price?

Letting guilty criminals go is the price of the 5th amendment. It would be silly to argue that anyone supporting the 5th amendment WANTS criminals to go free.

And school shootings are a recent phenomenon, but the 2nd amendment isn't. If school shootings are actually what you care about, look for what changed. Because it isn't access to firearms that changed.

Again, shouldn't he be proud of his fellow Americans standing up against tyranny with guns?

Charlie wasn't a tyrant. He was someone who thought we should discuss our differences rather than resort to violence. It's rather pathetic to try to blame him for his own death.

 

[Emily's Cat]

you clearly didn't feel the need to voice your disapproval for what happened and then said about an old man who tired to stay private, but did need to act all outraged about comment on a very public figure who's entire stick was to draw attention and criticism.

It's clearly not about decorum, only ideology - don't pretend otherwise.

. I disapprove.

Now… did ANYONE HERE AT ISF attempt to defend their murder or imply that it was justified? Was it in a thread that I was even aware of?

 

[Emily's Cat]

It's rather pathetic to try to blame him for his own death.

Kirk really shouldn’t have been wearing such a skimpy dress.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Letting guilty criminals go is the price of the 5th amendment. It would be silly to argue that anyone supporting the 5th amendment WANTS criminals to go free.

And school shootings are a recent phenomenon, but the 2nd amendment isn't. If school shootings are actually what you care about, look for what changed. Because it isn't access to firearms that changed.

Charlie wasn't a tyrant. He was someone who thought we should discuss our differences rather than resort to violence. It's rather pathetic to try to blame him for his own death.

Ah, but that's the thing isn't it? If you propagate the myth that the 2A is needed to prevent tyrants from taking control, you will run into the problem that various people have various ideas of who is a tyrant-to-be.

Stalin wasn't a tyrant either when he was young.

 

[jimbob]

People make jokes about all sorts of things that they think are bad. Making a joke about something is not a sign of approval for that thing. Why do you need this explained to you?

What is your complaint about people saying that it was ironic that someone who advocated ideological violence and against gun restrictions was killed by shooting?

 

[jimbob]

Charlie wasn't a tyrant. He was someone who thought we should discuss our differences rather than resort to violence. It's rather pathetic to try to blame him for his own death.

He advocated Nuremberg trials for doctors. Even imprisonment would be violence but we all know* that that was a coded message for capital punishment of them.


*Handily a lot of those advocating "Nuremberg 2" or similar helpfully include pictures of hangings.

 

[Ziggurat]

Ah, but that's the thing isn't it? If you propagate the myth that the 2A is needed to prevent tyrants from taking control, you will run into the problem that various people have various ideas of who is a tyrant-to-be.

Stalin wasn't a tyrant either when he was young.

Robinson didn't shoot Kirk because he thought Kirk was a tyrant, or even a tyrant to be.

 

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Robinson didn't shoot Kirk because he thought Kirk was a tyrant, or even a tyrant to be.

I guess that is something that might come out during his trial, but I admire your telepathy.

Oh and as for the school shooting thing, in case you forgot, that was not my, but Kirks argument in favour of the 2A. You know, in one of his freedom discussions about how the occasional murdered children are just the price to pay as otherwise the right to play with guns might be slightly curtailed.