Do you think that Trump's tariffs are an attempt to protect unions?
No, and nobody pays me to do anything.
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My IRL friends call me Chris on bsky, July 8, 2026
Helping US tech comps & natural gas sales.
Alberta "aims to attract $100 billion in investment. Projects to date amount to over 18 GW, which would be supported by natural gas power plants"
“If 18 GW were added supported by natural gas, this could generate...almost 3% of Canada’s total emissions”
How did Stout put it? "We have to pay for these expensive social problems the population is demanding somehow."
Because 'the population' just can't get enough data centers, those insatiable bastards!
Beginning of thread with examples of gas-powered data centers:
T. Ryan Gregory on bsky, July 9, 2026
There will always be a Carney fan along to defend him, often by deflecting to the provinces.
A few reminders...
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At first glance, the title of this video may not seem to have much to do with anthropogenic global warming:
Why Advanced Aliens Probably Don’t Build Dyson Spheres (Anton Petrov on YouTube, July 9, 2026 – 15:23 min.)
However, ...
Why Advanced Aliens Probably Don’t Build Dyson Spheres (Anton Petrov on YouTube, July 9, 2026 – 15:23 min.)
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That brings us back to politicians writing big numbers on pieces of paper thing, and now we'll just have to wait.
Trump? Dunno, but super-lefty mega-woke Justin Trudeau imposed a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs to protect the domestic auto industry which, as I'm sure you're aware, employs thousands of ununionized auto workers.
What? Are you seriously trying to equate data centers with things like health care and education? I mean visiting Dr. Google and going to YouTube high may be the European normal but it's not something the majority of Canadian voters are trying to emulate.
As I'm sure you're aware, protecting the domestic auto industry is very different from protecting workers, unionized or not. Workers are employed only as long as employers think they're useful for their purpose in life which is the bottom line of the company, not the people living paycheck-to-paycheck.
Measures to protect the business interests of capitalists are always potrayed as a service to help workers, which I'm sure that you ... no, you're probably not even aware of that, much the same way you are not aware that the purpose of AI centers isn't to employ thousands of unionized AI-center workers.
Why on earth would I equate data centers with health care and education? Data centers are supposed to make HCWs and teachers redundant, which I doubt is something the majority of Canadian voters for or will appreciate.
In related news:
All to protect unionized workers, and just what Canadian voters always desired and voted for, right?!
No doubt the corporate fat cats red The Secret and treated themselves to a luxury retreat where they sat around willing the autos and parts to simply manifest themselves but I highly suspect that approach was a failure and they actually really need those tens of thousands of workers to actually make their product. Much in the way that data centers are going to need people to build them, and their power supplies.
The why is my question. The only reason Dr. Google is gaining so much ground is due to a meatspace doctor shortage. As for teachers being replaced by AI? Doubt it. Good unionized factory workers need somewhere to drop off their kids while they're busy operating the means of production.
Because the only way to make workers superfluous is to 'will the autos and parts to simply manifest themselves,' right?
How dumb does he think we are?
And the data centers that will replace people will also need people to build them and their power supplies.
As I already said in post 2,426:
Somehow, it never occurs to the promoters of global warming that wind turbines and solar parks "need people to build them" and maintain them.
Again, factory workers (even in factories manufacturing solar panels and wind turbines) need institutions to look after their kids, but as far as teaching goes, you have to be extremely uninformed to not know that teachers' jobs are some of those that AI fans hope to replace. 'Meatspace doctors,' too, but as always capitalists will argue that AI is only there to make their jobs easier.
So AI it is, instead of educating and training more doctors and nurses.
A post in another tread about swing voters and their attitude to the climate-change policies of Democrats and Republicans.
Roger Ramjets
Philosopher
Robots ‘to make 100pc of cars by 2030’
Yes, people will be needed to build factories, set up production lines and maintain the equipment, - but not very many of them. 90% of the workers that were needed to build automobiles in the 1960s have already been shed. In the next 5 years it may be 95%, and this will be a good thing because it means vehicles get cheaper and human labor is freed up for more important work.
There won't be many unionized (or other) factory workers.
You are assuming the AIs won't unionize?
EHocking
Penultimate Amazing
If they did, would they be supervised by a slop floor steward?
Interesting synergy.
Watching that, I wondered if another contribution to 'greening the desert' was the solar panels acting as dew traps*. Clearly reducing surface winds not only reduces water loss by evaporation but also soil loss by reducing surface soils from being blown away. The shading effect and reducing soil heating and thus evaporation is the most obvious effect.
The reverse synergy is that the grasses by 'fixing' the soil probably reduce dust settling on the solar panels which reduces their efficiency. Then you can use the wool from the sheep to clean the solar panels!
Effectively the Solar farm may be carbon negative if it is leading to carbon trapping by grasses and locking organic matter in to soils.
*This paper directly links solar panels and dehumidification (fancy dew traps);
Although if you start breeding sheep to graze around solar farms, the ghg released by the sheep would not do the scheme any favours being ruminants .Interesting synergy.
Watching that, I wondered if another contribution to 'greening the desert' was the solar panels acting as dew traps*. Clearly reducing surface winds not only reduces water loss by evaporation but also soil loss by reducing surface soils from being blown away. The shading effect and reducing soil heating and thus evaporation is the most obvious effect.
The reverse synergy is that the grasses by 'fixing' the soil probably reduce dust settling on the solar panels which reduces their efficiency. Then you can use the wool from the sheep to clean the solar panels!
Effectively the Solar farm may be carbon negative if it is leading to carbon trapping by grasses and locking organic matter in to soils.
*This paper directly links solar panels and dehumidification (fancy dew traps);
The sheep not the solar panels.
But...but...but leftist super hunk Justin Trudeau told us it was all about the workers.
Look here
If you can't trust a woke environmentalist who's currently jet setting around the world following some Epstein class Hollywood chick, who can you trust?
Yea, but those people are futurists who live in domed houses, wear metallic silver jumpsuits and dream of commuting to work using a jet pack. Nobody cares about what they have to say.
Your link talks about using AI to share healthcare data, there's nothing about replacing doctors in there.
Notice that Stout for some reason calls Trudeau a leftist and a woke environmentalist. In comparison to Stout, it may be true, I guess, but he never was.
There is never anything "about replacing doctors," nurses, teachers, factory workers or anybody else. That's the point of that kind of propganda.
Stout's claims are in line with all other bourgeois accounts, in this respect. Everything is always claimed to be for the benefit of "good unionized factory workers."
It's always about creating jobs and making work easier. The latter is just another euphemism for making work so 'easy' that workers are no longer needed and thus laid off. See Roger Ramjet's post.
Gavin Yamey on bsky, July 11, 2026
A key characteristic of the MAGA/MAHA Administration:
They say they want to “make America healthy again” but their actions worsen health & increase sickness, suffering, & early death
They’ve worsened climate change
And now they’ve appointed a climate denialist
Trump Administration Taps Climate Science Critic to Oversee National Climate Assessment (NYT, July 10, 2026)
Matthew W. Wielicki has criticized the scientific consensus on global warming as alarmist. Now he'll oversee a major federal report on the topic.
Fake news CCP propaganda
The moisture comes from the water used to clean the solar panels. There's a big river with a hydroelectric dam right next door and Big Solar has deemed using sheep as the most cost effective way of controlling grass growth.
Just in case you were looking for something else to keep you up at night. Australia would like us to know that climate change enables pedophilia. So, ugh, more money for NGOs?
www.abc.net.au
Girls married off as a climate change 'coping strategy'
Climate change is now believed to be a leading contributor to more frequent and younger nuptials, with 12 million girls tipped to become child brides this year.
www.abc.net.au