Merged (edited) General thoughts about Christianity and the bible

[acbytesla]

You seem uninformed about the assembly of the canon.

LMAO. I am in fact well versed on the assembly of the Bible.

You go first. You tell us how you came to accept the Bible you use. Tell me why you believe this is the word of God and other writings are heretical.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

That's reality. Some people find proven facts inconvenient, but that's no excuse to ignore them. Ignorance is sometimes excusable, but willful ignorance never is.

Ignorance of YOUR view?
There are MANY supporting views which you conveniently ignore.

 

[acbytesla]

Yes, I would treat any other ancient book that way, if someone told me that everything in it was true, and that I must follow all its rules, or be punished. I enjoy a lot of ancient books, including parts of the bible, I like fiction and love mythology, but if someone claims they are true, I want evidence.

Amen sister!

 

[Rusty Tyler]

I enjoy a lot of ancient books, including parts of the bible, I like fiction and love mythology, but if someone claims they are true, I want evidence.

What would suffice as evidence?

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Really?

Yes, really.

As several others have pointed out you are the one who brought the bible and your christian beliefs into this discussion, everyone else is merely responding to you.

If anyone in this thread (or a couple of adjacent ones) has an agenda...

 

[acbytesla]

Based on a lack of maps to identify Nazareth?

Based on a desperate attempt to connect Jesus to Jewish prophecies and getting it wrong.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

You go first. You tell us how you came to accept the Bible you use. Tell me why you believe this is the word of God and other writings are heretical.

You are "well-versed" in the canon, so you understand where it came from. (assuming you got it right) Unlikely.

I accept the work done to canonize the scriptures. Not that there aren't problems, but it is what it is.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Hogwash.
You're being chased by a bear. Hello?

Brain would know; stomach, intestines and the rest, not so much.

Did you miss that Mojo was being very literal in what he wrote?

 

[Carrot Flower King]

How would I do that?
Why would you discount the biblical account?

Why would I believe any one of the many conflicting bible accounts of purportedly the same events?

What was that about agendas?

 

[Darat]

Wouldn't that have been sorted out when they assembled the canon of scriptures?

There was no such point in time.

 

[Darat]

Agree.
That is a problem.
The old testament God and the new testament God seem to be two different entities.

Not according to the bible they don't.

 

[Pixel42]

Ignorance of YOUR view?

No, ignorance of proven facts.

There are MANY supporting views which you conveniently ignore.

It's supporting facts I'm looking for. Opinions which are unsupported by evidence can be safely dismissed.

 

[acbytesla]

What would suffice as evidence?

No offense intended. But this is a stupid question. I would only know post hoc.Any attempt to answer that question would be incomplete and preliminary at best.

But what is poor evidence is scripture. Especially any writing that describes supernatural events. I wouldn't believe such events if my friends or my own father told me. Just like I don't believe the idiots today that say the earth is flat and astronauts didn't land on the moon.

 

[zooterkin]

How would I do that?
Why would you discount the biblical account?

Do you discount the account of Grendel in the tale of Beowulf?

 

[acbytesla]

You are "well-versed" in the canon, so you understand where it came from. (assuming you got it right) Unlikely.

I accept the work done to canonize the scriptures. Not that there aren't problems, but it is what it is.

What work and why do you accept it?. This seems to be a deliberate attempt of yours not explain why you accept the present Bible is true.

 

[acbytesla]

Do you discount the account of Grendel in the tale of Beowulf?

How about Odysseus and the cyclops or the sirens?

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Why would I believe any one of the many conflicting bible accounts of purportedly the same events?

Many? I can only think of a couple.
Like when the fig tree withered? (immediately, or overnight)

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Do you discount the account of Grendel in the tale of Beowulf?

Not familiar. Send help.

 

[Rusty Tyler]

Tell me why you believe this is the word of God and other writings are heretical.

I don't believe that in the standard way.
I limit what I consider to be divine revelation.
An English translation was created by men.

 

[Helen]

Brain would know; stomach, intestines and the rest, not so much.

Did you miss that Mojo was being very literal in what he wrote?

Strange, he seems quite knowledgable about literalism.