Cont: Musk, SpaceX and future of Tesla II

[Andy_Ross]

SpaceX literally has not built a single vehicle of their lunar lander contract. No HLS, no tanker, no depot variant.
Nothing!

 

[Andy_Ross]

Yes, because he's always famously been about stealing from the poor and keeping it for himself.


Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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Lauren Chen
@TheLaurenChen
It's crazy to me how Robin Hood is now popularized as "stealing from the rich to give to the poor"
(Socialist Messaging)

Mattheus Maximus
@Matthew__707
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Robin Hood stole back unjust taxes from a tyrannical government - not “wealth redistribution.”

Facts beat socialist revisionism every time.

 

[junkshop]

Noel is a dumbo.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

European type approval for Tesla FSD in the Netherlands

RDW has issued a type approval for Tesla’s driver assistance system, FSD Supervised (Full Self Driving Supervised). This driver controlled assistance system has been extensively examined and tested for more than one and a half years on our test track and on public roads.

Tesla’s driver controlled assistance system supports the driver more than other systems because, when enabled, it takes over multiple driving tasks. Using driver assistance systems correctly makes a positive contribution to road safety because the driver is supported in their driving tasks; it is a supplement to the driver. Through continuous strict monitoring of the driver in the vehicle, the system is safer than other driver assistance systems.

For now only the Netherlands; later possibly admission across the entire European Union

This is a big deal for Tesla in Europe. It gives them an edge over other auto makers whose vehicles don't have proper autonomous driving.

Tesla sales in March are already much higher in many European countries than the same period last year:- up 315% in Germany, 203% in France, 178% in Norway, 144% in Sweden, 98% in Denmark, 89% in Belgium, 72% in the Netherlands, 32% in Italy and 25% ⁠in Spain. Tesla also grew its market share in many EU countries:- eg. from 12.1% to 27.4% in Norway, 1.6% to 3.5% in France, 3% to 4.6% in Sweden, and 4.1% to 5.3% in Denmark.

Having passed the stringent tests in the Netherlands, approval across the rest of the continent will probably follow shortly. Tesla's future in Europe is looking bright!

 

[arthwollipot]

SpaceX literally has not built a single vehicle of their lunar lander contract. No HLS, no tanker, no depot variant.
Nothing!

Of course not. They're still iterating.

 

[Darat]

So Tesla is making some progress in catching up with other manufacturers.

 

[junkshop]

...It gives them an edge over other auto makers whose vehicles don't have proper autonomous driving...

Neither, according to your source, do Tesla's:

FSD Supervised is an advanced driver assistance system. This means that vehicles using FSD Supervised can take over many driving tasks, but are NOT autonomous or self-driving.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
The vaccine dosage was obviously too high and done too many times.

I had the original Wuhan virus before there was any vaccine and it was much like any other cold/flu. Bad, but not terrible.

But my second vaccine shot almost sent me to the hospital. Felt like I was dying.

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PeterSweden
@PeterSweden7
This should be headline news EVERYWHERE.

A Pfizer insider who was former head of toxicology in Europe has just come out and said something that many "conspiracy theorists" suspected.

He estimates that 20 000 to 60 000 people in Germany have died from the c*vid vaccine.

This was said at a parliamentary enquiry commission in Germany.

So why isn't this massive news being reported everywhere?

Is the mainstream media that has recieved millions in funding from Bill Gates deliberately covering this up...

 

[Andy_Ross]

Elon Musk
@elonmusk
South Africa won’t allow Starlink to be licensed, even though I was BORN THERE, simply because I am not Black!

We were offered many times the opportunity to bribe our way to a license by pretending that a Black guy runs Starlink SA, but I have refused to do so on principle.

Racism should not be rewarded no matter to which race it is applied.

Shame on the racist politicians in South Africa. They should be shown no respect whatsoever anywhere in the world and shunned for being unashamedly RACISTS!

 

[dirtywick]

LOL

 

[jeremyp]

It's a complete redesign of the engine.

No it isn't. It's an evolution of Raptor 2. Raptor 2 was a complete redesign of Raptor 1.

 

[jeremyp]

Yes, because he's always famously been about stealing from the poor and keeping it for himself.


Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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Lauren Chen
@TheLaurenChen
It's crazy to me how Robin Hood is now popularized as "stealing from the rich to give to the poor"
(Socialist Messaging)

Mattheus Maximus
@Matthew__707
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Robin Hood stole back unjust taxes from a tyrannical government - not “wealth redistribution.”

Facts beat socialist revisionism every time.

Robin Hood is fictional.

 

[jeremyp]

European type approval for Tesla FSD in the Netherlands



This is a big deal for Tesla in Europe. It gives them an edge over other auto makers whose vehicles don't have proper autonomous driving.

No it isn't. It's still run by Elon Musk so a lot of people won't by the Swasticars.

By the way, your link describes FSD (supervised)* as a driver assistance system, not autonomous driving.

* got to laugh at Full Self Driving (not self driving) haven't you.

Tesla sales in March are already much higher in many European countries than the same period last year:- up 315% in Germany, 203% in France, 178% in Norway, 144% in Sweden, 98% in Denmark, 89% in Belgium, 72% in the Netherlands, 32% in Italy and 25% ⁠in Spain. Tesla also grew its market share in many EU countries:- eg. from 12.1% to 27.4% in Norway, 1.6% to 3.5% in France, 3% to 4.6% in Sweden, and 4.1% to 5.3% in Denmark.

Having passed the stringent tests in the Netherlands, approval across the rest of the continent will probably follow shortly. Tesla's future in Europe is looking bright!

Tresla sold basically nothing in the first quarter of 2025. If you sell four cars instead of one, that's a big increase in percentage terms but really not that great.

Elon Musk is a shyster and a con artist and you glazing him will not change that.

 

[jeremyp]

Of course not. They're still iterating.

When are they going to stop iterating and produce something?

It's OK, you don't need to answer that, it's basically never.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Yes. I think he announced the concept 11 years ago and since then everybody who's tried to develop the technology has failed and given up.


I did the maths. Apparently "current demand" is roughly 20,000 people a day (one way). That seems low.

To be absoutely fair to the Galaxy Nazi, the concept was over a hundred years old when he "came up" with it. All he did was adding a silly name and a few trademarks to it.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Which schedule? Elon's schedule or a realistic and practical one?

The schedule they are contracted to. Take the date that thy were supposed to achieve stage one goals, work out the time between then and now and add "and counting" at the end.

Best thing NASA could do at this stage, by far, is to cut their losses and walk away from the contract Musk broke.

 

[Gulliver Foyle]

Yes, because he's always famously been about stealing from the poor and keeping it for himself.


Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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Lauren Chen
@TheLaurenChen
It's crazy to me how Robin Hood is now popularized as "stealing from the rich to give to the poor"
(Socialist Messaging)

Mattheus Maximus
@Matthew__707
True
Robin Hood stole back unjust taxes from a tyrannical government - not “wealth redistribution.”

Facts beat socialist revisionism every time.

Libertarians looking at their preferred form of government and not recognising it, example no. 11,370,426,587.

 

[arthwollipot]

Best thing NASA could do at this stage, by far, is to cut their losses and walk away from the contract Musk broke.

And then what would they do for a lander?

 

[Darat]

And then what would they do for a lander?

Has SpaceX already got one?

 

[jeremyp]

And then what would they do for a lander?

NASA originally contracted three companies to produce the lander and I think Blue Origin is still in the running as an alternative.

Has SpaceX already got one?

No. Nor have they got a depot ship to store the fuel in. Nor have they got a ship capable of taking the fuel up to the depot ship.