Ed Israel/US Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

[Jack by the hedge]

Shia Islam is no more a death cult than Christianity...

Yeah but, on the down side, there is that death-cult proportion of US Christianity which welcomes every war in the Middle East as, this time for sure, it will be the start of Armageddon and when almost everyone is dead, Jesus can return.

 

[Steve]

Trump, who is attempting to free the Iranian people from the murderous Ayatollahs, who is attempting to free the Middle East and the entire civilized world from terrorism sponsored by the fanatical Ayatollahs, who is attempting to free the Middle East (and beyond) by the horrors of a nuclear attack from the fanatical death cult led by the Ayatollahs—that Trump and those Ayatollahs deserve each other? That is depraved.

I agree. Trump is most definitely depraved.

 

[Planigale]

Yeah but, on the down side, there is that death-cult proportion of US Christianity which welcomes every war in the Middle East as, this time for sure, it will be the start of Armageddon and when almost everyone is dead, Jesus can return.

This I think a better analogy than you know. There's certainly in Shia Islam the equivalent to the end of times beliefs in some christian sects.

The Mahdi (Arabic: ٱلْمَهْدِيّ, romanized: al-Mahdī, lit. 'the Guided') is a messianic figure in Islamic belief. He is comparable to the Christian concept of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and the Jewish concept of Mashiach ben David. The Mahdi is said to be a descendant of Muhammad and is believed to appear at the End of Times, shortly before Jesus returns (in Islamic belief), to rid the world of evil and injustice.

the Mahdi roams the earth and is sustained by God. He is the lord of the time (صاحب الزمان sahib az-zamān) and does not age. Although his whereabouts and the exact date of his return are unknown, the Mahdi is nevertheless believed to contact some of his Shia if he wishes. The accounts of these encounters are numerous and widespread in the Twelver community. Often associated with the mysterious appearance of a dark blue box*. Shia scholars have argued that the longevity of the Mahdi is not unreasonable given the long lives of Khidr, Jesus, and the Dajjal, as well as secular reports about long-lived men. Along these lines, Tabatabai emphasizes the miraculous qualities of al-Mahdi, adding that his long life, while unlikely, is not impossible. He is viewed as the sole legitimate ruler of the Muslim world and the constitution of the Islamic Republic of Iran recognizes him as the head of the state.

Mahdi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

*ETA sentence

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Interesting. I was only aware of 'the Mahdi' who took Khartoum in the late 1800s but had no idea what the title meant.

 

[jimbob]

This I think a better analogy than you know. There's certainly in Shia Islam the equivalent to the end of times beliefs in some christian sects.

Mahdi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

*ETA sentence

Nice video on Islamic eschatology and the parallels/cross fertilisation with Jewish and Christian traditions.

 

[johnny karate]

Trump, who is attempting to free the Iranian people from the murderous Ayatollahs, who is attempting to free the Middle East and the entire civilized world from terrorism sponsored by the fanatical Ayatollahs, who is attempting to free the Middle East (and beyond) by the horrors of a nuclear attack from the fanatical death cult led by the Ayatollahs—that Trump and those Ayatollahs deserve each other? That is depraved.

What I appreciate about this post is that although it is wildly delusional, it is also concise. A lot of delusional people ramble on incessantly but this post gets right to the point and really packs in an impressive amount of delusion in a short amount of time.

Well done.

 

[Pixel42]

This I think a better analogy than you know. There's certainly in Shia Islam the equivalent to the end of times beliefs in some christian sects.

Mahdi - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

*ETA sentence

Lord of time? Numerous encounters across millenia? Doesn't age? Associated with a dark blue box?

Should the BBC expect to be sued for breach of copyright?

 

[jimbob]

And his remembering that will make what difference? Given that he forgets any times anyone helps him, so he gives no benefit for helping him l.

Just seen this making the same point.

Everyone but Trump Understands What He’s Done

Allied leaders know that any positive gesture they make will count for nothing.

www.theatlantic.com

This isn’t cowardice. It’s a calculation: If allied leaders thought that their sacrifice might count for something in Washington, they might choose differently. But most of them have stopped trying to find the hidden logic behind Trump’s actions, and they understand that any contribution they make will count for nothing. A few days or weeks later, Trump will not even remember that it happened.

 

[jimbob]

Lord of time? Numerous encounters across millenia? Doesn't age? Associated with a dark blue box?

Should the BBC expect to be sued for breach of copyright?

Your avatar checks out

 

[Planigale]

Lord of time? Numerous encounters across millenia? Doesn't age? Associated with a dark blue box?

Should the BBC expect to be sued for breach of copyright?

The dark blue box I added; a mysterious stranger popping up through time, the BBC could probably make a mint from a muslim spin off!

 

[Axxman300]

I think the Iran was a horrible, horriblem mistake, and I despise Trump and Hesgarth as much as anybody, but I donlt think the Ayatalloahs are the good guys here. They got plenty of blood on their hands. Trump and the Ayattolahs, deserve each other.

Huge mistake. As I said before, we didn't move on Iran back in 2005/2006 when they were killing our guys in Iraq precisely for the reasons we're seeing come into play now with Iranian retaliation. We've dealt with Iran quietly for over 45 years with sanctions, and covert action. Some at Langley and in the US Senate have pushed for more aggressive covert action, but the Middle East is a complex place where we have to consider Saudi, Jordanian, Egyptian, Turkish, UAE, and other interests with each move we've made. Nixon screwed us with the Petrodollar, and even though we are oil-independent it has not relieved us of our responsibilities in the region.

In short: We're screwed.

So we've tried to do the dance in the Middle East, but 9-11 sent us off to Crazy-Town, and for reasons beyond rational thought, Americans returned Trump to the White House. The United States is now run by some of the stupidest, corrupt people in human history. And I have no idea how this all ends.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Time is running out. Glory be to God!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
Remember when I gave Iran ten days to MAKE A DEAL or OPEN UP THE HORMUZ STRAIT. Time is running out - 48 hours before all Hell will reign down on them. Glory be to GOD! President DONALD J. TRUMP

 

[Resume]

Time is running out. Glory be to God!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonald Trump
Remember when I gave Iran ten days to MAKE A DEAL or OPEN UP THE HORMUZ STRAIT. Time is running out - 48 hours before all Hell will reign down on them. Glory be to GOD! President DONALD J. TRUMP

Allahu Akbar? Is this idiot gonna obliterate (again) something in Iran on ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ Easter? Is this his Drunk Crusader's plan?

 

[Andy_Ross]

Lindsey Graham
@LindseyGrahamSC
I just had a great conversation with @POTUS. I totally support his ultimatum to the Iranian regime to open up the Strait of Hormuz and to do a peace deal.

A massive military operation awaits Iran if they choose poorly.

This regime has been severely crippled through Operation Epic Fury. Their reign of terror against the region and the world needs to come to an end, hopefully through a peace deal.

After speaking with President Trump this morning, I am completely convinced that he will use overwhelming military force against the regime if they continue to impede the Strait of Hormuz and refuse a diplomatic solution to achieve our military objectives. If it’s not clear to Iran and others by now that President Trump means what he says then I don’t know when it will ever be.

Choose wisely

 

[Andy_Ross]

So, boots on the ground.

Buy shares in body bag and coffin suppliers.

 

[Resume]

Lindsey Graham
@LindseyGrahamSC
I just had a great conversation with @POTUS. I totally support his ultimatum to the Iranian regime to open up the Strait of Hormuz and to do a peace deal.

A massive military operation awaits Iran if they choose poorly.

This regime has been severely crippled through Operation Epic Fury. Their reign of terror against the region and the world needs to come to an end, hopefully through a peace deal.

After speaking with President Trump this morning, I am completely convinced that he will use overwhelming military force against the regime if they continue to impede the Strait of Hormuz and refuse a diplomatic solution to achieve our military objectives. If it’s not clear to Iran and others by now that President Trump means what he says then I don’t know when it will ever be.

Choose wisely

Have another drink Lindsey, it'll perk you up.

 

[Andy_Ross]

The White House
@WhiteHouse
“Remember when I gave Iran ten days to MAKE A DEAL or OPEN UP THE HORMUZ STRAIT. Time is running out - 48 hours before all Hell will reign down on them. Glory be to GOD!” - President DONALD J. TRUMP

 

[Helen]

Gott mit uns!

 

[sinnikal]

FFS, you ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ illiterate thick ◊◊◊◊! It's ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ RAIN!!! get it?, RAIN. Stupid ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, how many more times???

 

[Helen]

FFS, you ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ illiterate thick ◊◊◊◊! It's ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ RAIN!!! get it?, RAIN. Stupid ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊, how many more times???

Drives me crazy as well. Not to mention the random capitals.

Oh, I forgot; everything else about him as well.