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Ed Israel/US Attacks Iran /Yet Another Country/Iran

By non-state actors? Sure. After all, article 5 wasn't invoked when US-backed terrorists were blowing up British soldiers in Northern Ireland.

Not until recently when Trump showed the UK how little he cared for their contributions with tariffs and insults.

Reports of her death are exaggerated.

Sure, but in the meantime volunteering for Operation Cannon Fodder does not sound like as inviting as you may think it does.
To be fair that's because they knew the time to do so was when British state run terrorist groups started murdering innocent civilians because they were the wrong religion and were peacefully protesting for equal rights.
 

The Cato Institute is not a fan.

The Trump administration has led the United States into war with Iran, assuming it could secure a quick victory with limited costs. They were wrong. After more than two weeks of consistent bombing, new US intelligence suggests Iran’s regime is now consolidating power, unlikely to collapse, and led by a cadre more extreme than before. Despite this, Washington is deploying thousands of additional troops to the Middle East, and Trump inches closer to a potential ground campaign inside Iran. It is time to face reality: tactical successes cannot mask what has quickly become another strategic failure in the Middle East.

The rest is pretty spot on
 
ultimately since you don't really have a lot of choice in the matter they all work to varying degrees, my point was i don't think there's a draft format where people are too happy about the situation.

Besides which there's a big difference between drafting people to leave their lives and families and go fight in a foreign country compared to a foreign army is invading and bombing your country where your life and family is. There was no pay negotiation scene in 'Red Dawn' for a reason and it it wasn't running time.
 
The Taliban were driven out by our invasion, back to Pakistan, but they were never really defeated and we did not pursue them (how'd that work out for Pakistan?).

I don't think the mullahs of Iran really have anywhere to retreat to. And if they fall, the people of Iran will put the nail in their coffin, not us. Iran is not Afghanistan.
I don't think you know what the word 'mullah' means. It is a title like doctor. It is applied to people learned in Islam, usually those who have studied Islam at university and often having a postgraduate qualification usually in Islamic (sharia) law. Mullahs will be imams in mosques, teachers, lawyers and judges. They may be unwilling to leave their people, and I don't think the Iranian people are going to allow de-Islamicisation to occur. They could go through out the Islamic world. As previously posted there will be over a 100,000 mullahs in Iran.
 
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I don't think even the blindest Americaphile would claim they won either of those.


How did that go in Afghanistan? Are you still winning there?
The question I responded to was what would an Iranian victory look like; my response was like a Vietnamese, or Cambodian or as said an Afghanistan victory. The country bombed, devastated, poisoned, millions killed. The nation still existing.
 
His latest threat against Iran's biggest power plant, with a two-day ultimatum (not "Two Weeks"?) is a big deal. If it goes through, I believe it will definitely be a war crime as described in a post I saw. Oh, to see him on trial on the world stage! (But that would mean thousands of civilians affected or killed, so I'm not hoping for it.)
He has said he would start with Iran's largest power plant, this is a nuclear plant. This would be a breach of the Geneva convention. Perhaps the military might refuse as it would be a war crime.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/api-1977/article-56
 
Trump posted on his Truth Social platform at 23:44 GMT on 21 March, meaning Iran has until 23:44 GMT on 23 March (03:14 in Tehran on 24 March), to meet the US president's demand.

He posted: "If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST!"

 
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The Cato Institute is not a fan.



The rest is pretty spot on
Well written and referenced article. The depressing thing is the concept that this has happened because of the incompetence of Witkoff and Kushner, and their over confidence in their technical knowledge and refusal to engage with real technical experts. I can't help being concerned that their ties with Israel biased their views and actions.
 
The question I responded to was what would an Iranian victory look like; my response was like a Vietnamese, or Cambodian or as said an Afghanistan victory. The country bombed, devastated, poisoned, millions killed. The nation still existing.

I would add to that list, "and millions of people who hold the USA responsible, hate America and who will seek revenge".
 

The Cato Institute is not a fan.



The rest is pretty spot on
The Cato Institute, unlike so many other so-called libertarian and conservative think tanks, are one of the few to have stuck with their principles to oppose tariffs, militarized masked goons on the streets, chipping away at freedom of expression in print and broadcasts, imperial presidency, over-riding of state governments and, of course, reckless foreign policy adventures.

I don't agree with a lot of what they otherwise stand for, but it is nice to at least see some remnants of principle.
 

Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו
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Iran has proven again in the last 48 hours that it is the enemy of civilization and a danger to the free world: targeting children, families, and the elderly with terror missiles, threatening Jerusalem’s holy sites, launching long-range missiles, and trying to blackmail the world through the Strait of Hormuz. I ask the leaders of the free world: what are you waiting for? Israel is fighting not only for itself, but for all of you
 
Trump posted on his Truth Social platform at 23:44 GMT on 21 March, meaning Iran has until 23:44 GMT on 23 March (03:14 in Tehran on 24 March), to meet the US president's demand.

He posted: "If Iran doesn’t FULLY OPEN, WITHOUT THREAT, the Strait of Hormuz, within 48 HOURS from this exact point in time, the United States of America will hit and obliterate their various POWER PLANTS, STARTING WITH THE BIGGEST ONE FIRST!"

I thought Iran's response was pretty on point - you do that and we'll target desalination plants and energy infrastructure. Their guy on X has a good sense of humour, too. "Hormuz isn't close... to people not shooting at us and their pals." Seems fair.

I have to say, for a country which has been utterly destroyed and all of its weapons and missiles destroyed, Iran is doing a pretty good job of blowing things up.

If Bibi and the Zionists are crying about Iran "murdering" Israelis, then something is clearly still working. It's also noticeable that the much-vaunted iron dome appears to have sprung a few leaks. Pity about that.

When will USA and Israel get tired of winning so much?
 

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