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Slobbering "Citizens" on the Land.

The videos in which the defendents are challenging the jurisidction of teh court amuse
Carrot Flower King said:
Yer man there, Mr Frown (sic), is quite the eejit...To the point of giving an average eejit an unwarrented reputation for excessive stupidity, rather than being, well, just a bit of an eejit.

Why is he allowed out in public unsupervised?
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Failure of the “care in the community” policy.
 
novaphile said:
May I recommend that you adopt the term: 'sovcidiots' ?

If enough people start using it, the concept that they are idiots may eventually soak into the mess that should be their minds.
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I think they’ve caught onto that, thus Résumé’s observation,
Resume said:
They're calling themselves American State Nationals now.
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(wiki link added to Résumé’s post)

PPS: I hope he/she appreciates the autocorrect of their moniker.
 
EHocking said:
I think they’ve caught onto that, thus Résumé’s observation,

(wiki link added to Résumé’s post)

PPS: I hope he/she appreciates the autocorrect of their moniker.
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He's okay with it.

Ooops; I read that wrong. It's Resume.
 
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novaphile said:
Oh damn.

Have I been misreading your handle all this time?

I've always read it as resume as in: "As you were" or "You may keep going with what you were doing".
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novaphile said:
Oh damn.

Have I been misreading your handle all this time?

I've always read it as resume as in: "As you were" or "You may keep going with what you were doing".
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You're correct; I read that post wrong.
 
Planigale said:
If you follow Scottish nationalist sites there are a number of 'sovereign citizens' posts. Essentially they claim that since the declaration of arbroath the people of scotland are sovereign so the the treaty of union is invalid, so scotland is independent and westminster laws cannot be applied to scots in Scotland. I am not sure that push it as far as not paying taxes or registering cars etc.
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Sadly in Australia, many of the 'nationalists'/Australia first idiots (the 'thinking' of, not the political party, although there is a LOT of crossover in the two groups) have a similar load of .... as in the laws dont apply since the times of Federation here, so they are all 'sovereign' and can do whatever they want - strange that they are also real big on using US sovcit stuff mixed liberally in like the whole commercial law, marine laws stuff and even some claiming protection under the US constitution lol (I fairly recently saw on youtube a Aussie sovcit loudly proclaiming that the whole arrest was invalid because they hadn't 'Miranderised him' LOL)
 
Dabop said:
Sadly in Australia, many of the 'nationalists'/Australia first idiots (the 'thinking' of, not the political party, although there is a LOT of crossover in the two groups) have a similar load of .... as in the laws dont apply since the times of Federation here, so they are all 'sovereign' and can do whatever they want - strange that they are also real big on using US sovcit stuff mixed liberally in like the whole commercial law, marine laws stuff and even some claiming protection under the US constitution lol (I fairly recently saw on youtube a Aussie sovcit loudly proclaiming that the whole arrest was invalid because they hadn't 'Miranderised him' LOL)
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Like many people before have said: It's abject, complete and abyssal stupidity.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Like many people before have said: It's abject, complete and abyssal stupidity.
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Oh the stupidity is a given of course- or they wouldn't be sovcits in the first place....

Its just amusing that the Aussie ones (and undoubtedly many of the sovcits in other countries except the US) are so eager to claim protection under US laws that have literally zero meaning outside the US- all the time protesting the laws they DO have rghts under (and in many cases far more than the limited US constitutional ones)

If the cops took them 'at their word' that they were NOT Aussie citizens, then they wouldn't be treated with kids gloves as they currently are here (I assume the courts are going easy on them because they are all considered 'short bus riders' aka not the full quid...)

Especially under the Libs/Nats coalition- 'non citizens' got shafted bigtime lol- and thats exactly what the sovcits are claiming they are...

They would have been sent to Nauru to live in tents.... not released wihin hours to repeately reoffend (ironically try doing the whole 'unrego/unlicenced' thing without the sovcit BS, and they will come down on you like a ton of bricks......
 
Sovcidiots don't need a good host to be entertaining. Just officers that are set on doing thier job in a timely manner. Not officers that ask the 348 times to please open the window, then another 76 attempts at a license and registration followed by explaining actual laws four dozen times.

A simple promise of I will ask you one more time before your window is broken followed by one question and a broken window is much more satisfying.
Judges who revoke bond and enforce contempt of court are fun. The SC then claiming that he isn't prepared because he was denied his speshul law papers in jail is always good for a response too. Followed by demands of returning his car immediately with no fines or fees for dessert.
 
It's the modern version of people who think they are magicians: utter the correct formulae and everything will work out extra good, just for you, because you are so much more clever than the common rabble! Whether it's writing your name in all-caps on a document application or inscribing sigils in blood on a parchment scroll it's the same basic idea: there are secret loopholes in the rules if you just know them.

That they don't actually work has never been an impediment to the pursuit and practice of these things.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's the modern version of people who think they are magicians: utter the correct formulae and everything will work out extra good, just for you, because you are so much more clever than the common rabble! Whether it's writing your name in all-caps on a document application or inscribing sigils in blood on a parchment scroll it's the same basic idea: there are secret loopholes in the rules if you just know them.

That they don't actually work has never been an impediment to the pursuit and practice of these things.
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Wargamers who take the game too seriously??
 
Dabop said:
(I fairly recently saw on youtube a Aussie sovcit loudly proclaiming that the whole arrest was invalid because they hadn't 'Miranderised him' LOL)
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Miranda Rights don't exist here, but an arresting police officer does have to tell you that you are under arrest, and what you are under arrest for, or the arrest is not lawful. I know this because the case in which I was pleased to do my civic duty as a juror hinged on whether the arrest was lawful or not.
 
That was the point- we do indeed have 'similar' rights and procedures- but to claim the arrest in Australia was 'illegal' because they hadn't been read a warning that is only valid in the US, a completely different country and legal system- shows their complete ignorance of the law in BOTH countries....
LOL- its like screaming about your 'second amendment rights' in Australia- we have a constitution of our own, and indeed a second amendment even...

In fact get a gun nut rabbiting on about the 'second amendment rights' here in Australia is quite hilarious- just how does the Federal government taking over the states financial debts in 1910 have anything to do with anything????

The Parliament may take over from the States their public debts as existing at the establishment of the Commonwealth, or a proportion thereof according to the respective numbers of their people as shown by the latest statistics of the Commonwealth, and may convert, renew, or consolidate such debts, or any part thereof; and the States shall indemnify the Commonwealth in respect of the debts taken over, and thereafter the interest payable in respect of the debts shall be deducted and retained from the portions of the surplus revenue of the Commonwealth payable to the several States, or if such surplus is insufficient, or if there is no surplus, then the deficiency or the whole amount shall be paid by the several States.
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1910 Australian referendum (State Debts) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

:mgduh
 
arthwollipot said:
Miranda Rights don't exist here, but an arresting police officer does have to tell you that you are under arrest, and what you are under arrest for, or the arrest is not lawful. I know this because the case in which I was pleased to do my civic duty as a juror hinged on whether the arrest was lawful or not.
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Same over here in I think all of the countries. But like in the USA you can be detained without being arrested but only under certain circumstances.
 
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