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Does 'rape culture' accurately describe (many) societies?

The topic is not one another - I have moved the last strand of the personalisation to AAH. Keep to the topic of the thread which whatever else it may be is not one another.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat
 
You are still equating 'porn exists behind honor system age verification' with 'showing porn to kids' in the way someone could equate 'alcohol is in the home and not locked up' with 'providing alcohol to kids' so I don't think this 'tolerance' is the kind of issue that society tolerating actually showing porn to kids would be.
And in the UK it is not behind honour system age verification, it is behind strong age verification systems. If it isn't the websites and owners can face fines and criminal action. Fines can be £18 million or 10% of their annual turnover, whoever is higher, executives can face up to 2 years in jail, UK ISPs can be ordered to restrict access thus losing access to the UK market. I don't think it goes far enough, for example any payment providers should be targeted even if it is ones the UK state may not want to ban throughout the UK because of the disruption it would cause e.g. the credit card companies.

A note: this doesn't just apply to porn websites it applies to sites that carry content that we know has contributed to suicides by children and other deaths of children. So far there has been no inquests that have ruled that children accessing porn has contributed to suicides by children and deaths of children.


Yeah I know "reset".
 
I have asked Poem many times to demonstrate that watching porn is harmful. If he could, his argument might have merit. His belief or his faith that it does is not acceptable to me.
I have presented lots of evidence. For me, the overriding factor is that it is harming children. We also know that the porn business model (i.e. easy access) will never preclude such exposure. Which ever way you slice it, access to porn is, for most, more important than childhood wellbeing. In many ways, porn is worshipped as a God.

Your assumption appears to be that porn is not harmful. Evidence that it has either a positive or, at worst, neutral effect is what?
 
I have presented lots of evidence. For me, the overriding factor is that it is harming children. We also know that the porn business model (i.e. easy access) will never preclude such exposure. Which ever way you slice it, access to porn is, for most, more important than childhood wellbeing. In many ways, porn is worshipped as a God.

Your assumption appears to be that porn is not harmful. Evidence that it has either a positive or, at worst, neutral effect is what?
No, you haven't. You've presented like minded people's opinions. This hardly constitutes evidence.
 
No, you haven't. You've presented like minded people's opinions. This hardly constitutes evidence.
Evidence from those considered to be experts in the field - and a lot of it relating to children.

This will need addressing:
Your assumption appears to be that porn is not harmful. Evidence that it has either a positive or, at worst, neutral effect is what?
 
Lots and lots of totally off-topic stuff moved to AAH. The historicity of Jesus is not the topic of the thread, neither is alcohol and so on.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat
 
it’s when you start the discussion over and act like you don’t know any of the info already discussed
 
Evidence from those considered to be experts in the field - and a lot of it relating to children.
This will need addressing:
Nonsense, these individuals are hardly experts. They are religious zealots.
Your assumption appears to be that porn is not harmful. Evidence that it has either a positive or, at worst, neutral effect is what?
It's not an assumption at all. But a starting point. It must be proven that it is for me to consider any actions are needed.
 
Nonsense, these individuals are hardly experts.
No details and not proven.
They are religious zealots.
No details and not proven.
It's not an assumption at all. But a starting point. It must be proven that it is for me to consider any actions are needed.
Porn is axiomatically good for people? Certainly, under nihilism, ethical matters can be decided on a whim. In terms of right and wrong, there is no recourse if a nihilist decides that underage porn is ethically sound.

Response to the porn industry showing kids their content from a nihilist? No problem.
 
According to Fight the New Drug - they are:

non-religious and non-legislative non-profit that exists to provide individuals the opportunity to make an informed decision regarding pornography by raising awareness on its harmful effects using only science, facts, and personal accounts.
 
No details and not proven.
No, you have to prove they are experts..

Porn is axiomatically good for people? Certainly, under nihilism, ethical matters can be decided on a whim. In terms of right and wrong, there is no recourse if a nihilist decides that underage porn is ethically sound.

Response to the porn industry showing kids their content from a nihilist? No problem.
First of all, I didn't say that. I said that harm to individuals must be proven BEFORE we decide it to be harmful. I take a neutral stance until then. I contend nothing close to solid evidence demonstrates it to be harmful to the viewer. You have a much more demonstrable argument that alcohol is.

And why do you keep attacking nihilism? It has nothing to do with this subject. I generally agree with nihilist philosophy. So what? It has nothing to with whether porn is harmful to the viewer.
 
lol just a couple of college buddies starting an anti-porn movement who's arguably 2nd greatest accomplishment listed there is failing to make a single game winning 3 pointer. they sound really cool
 
lol just a couple of college buddies starting an anti-porn movement who's arguably 2nd greatest accomplishment listed there is failing to make a single game winning 3 pointer. they sound really cool
Of course. People with no last name always sound cool. If you look, every person on their team has no last name, and is therefore cool.

At this point I have no evidence that Fight The New Drug is a real organisation rather than an AI generated website designed to scam people into donating to them.
 

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