General Israel/Palestine discussion thread - Part 4

UNRWA was founded in 1949 by the UN General Assembly. Its mission was to provide relief to all refugees resulting from the 1948 Arab Israeli conflict. In 1952 Israel assumed responsibility for Jewish refugees, leaving UNRWA responsible only for the Arabs who were displaced by that conflict, both inside the territory of the former Mandate Palestine (in the West Bank and Gaza), and outside the Mandate's borders (in Jordan, Lebanon and Syria).

It is worth recalling the background to the "Palestinian refugee problem." In 1947 the General Assembly voted to partition Mandate Palestine into two states, a Jewish state and an Arab state, with Jerusalem and Bethlehem remaining under international control. The Jewish leadership accepted the partition plan, the Arab leadership, backed by all the Arab states, rejected it, and launched a war to drive the Jews out. The Arab armies were defeated, and about 700,000 Arabs became refugees. Some of these were expelled by the Israelis, some fled on the advice of their leaders, and others fled simply to escape the fighting.

The creation of a specialised agency to provide relief to these refugees made some sense in 1949. But the creation of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) in 1950 rendered UNRWA redundant, and its functions should have been taken over by the UNHCR. This was not done, for entirely political reasons. UNRWA continued to operate at the insistence of what was by then a permanent majority at the UN hostile to Israel, consisting of an opportunistic alliance of the Soviet bloc and the Muslim world. The Palestinian refugees and their offspring were to be held, in effect as hostages, in perpetuity, as a weapon to be used against Israel, and UNRWA was to be their keeper.

Another long-forgotten fact is that UNRWA's charter defines a Palestinian as any person of Arab descent who had been living in Mandate Palestine for two years before the 1948 war, as well as all their male-line descendants. This means that a large number of people who migrated to Mandate Palestine from Transjordan, Egypt and other Arab countries, attracted by the economic opportunities provided by Jewish investment and British administration, were classed as Palestinians even though they had no actual Palestinian ancestry. Their descendants are still classed as Palestinian refugees.

Now, 76 years after the creation of UNRWA, nearly all of the original 700,000 refugees are dead. Mahmoud Abbas, the self-styled and unelected president of the "State of Palestine," who was born in Safed in 1935 and is now 90, is among the last of that generation.

Nearly all of those now officially classed as Palestinian refugees are the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren of the 1949 refugees.

These descendants now number more than 5 million, almost none of whom have ever set foot in what is now Israel. Of these, 1.2 million live in Gaza and 770,000 live in the West Bank. Another 2.1 million live in Jordan, 530,000 in Syria and 450,000 in Lebanon (many of those in Syria fled to Jordan or Lebanon during the Syrian civil war).

It needs to be stressed how unique this situation is. No other refugee population in the world contains almost no actual refugees: that is, people who have fled or been forced from their homes. Nearly all of the official Palestinian refugees live where they were born, and where in most cases their parents were born. The decision to continue to class them, even to the fourth generation, as refugees was and remains a political choice made by the majority bloc at the UN.

What was the alternative? It was obvious by the mid 1950s that Israel was not going to allow the Arabs who left its territory in 1949 to return, and the 1956 Suez Crisis and 1967 war made it clear that Israel could not be coerced into doing so. At that point efforts to resettle the refugees should have begun. The obvious place to resettle them was and still is Jordan, which was originally the eastern half of Mandate Palestine and which has a population of majority Palestinian descent. Jordan is an artificial creation ruled by a dynasty imported from the Hejaz and imposed by the British. It could very easily have been redesignated as Palestine, and still could be.

Let us take the most obvious analogy from the same period of history. At the end of World War II some 12 to 15 million Germans were expelled from their homes in eastern Germany, Poland and Czechoslovakia. Today their descendants have been successfully integrated into German society. Although many retain their cultural identity as Pomeranians or Sudetenlanders, there is no agitation whatever to reverse the postwar territorial settlement.

It will be argued that the resettlement of the German refugees was possible only because there was still a German state for them to be resettled in: they were only being resettled from one part of Germany to another. But this ignores the fact that Germany only became a united country in 1871, and that in 1945 it was a much less homogenous country than it is today. There were wide differences between, for example, East Prussians and Bavarians. They spoke different dialects, dressed differently and (most importantly) went to different churches. For a Protestant East Prussian refugee in 1945, Catholic Bavaria was in many ways a foreign country.

By contrast, despite recent efforts to create a separate Palestinian cultural identity ("Palestine music", "Palestinian food"), there is very little difference between a Palestinian born in Jaffa or Nablus and a Jordanian born in Amman. They are mostly Sunni Muslims and they speak the same Shami or Levantine dialect of Arabic (as do most Lebanese and Syrians). If the Palestinian refugees had been resettled in Jordan in the 1950s or 1960s, the "Palestinian question" in its current form would not exist. Today, after decades of nationalist propaganda (inculcated in UNRWA schools), this would be much more difficult, but not impossible.

(In fact, as everyone familiar with the issue knows, most Palestinians, wherever they live, would very happily be resettled, provided they could be resettled in North America or Western Europe. In the current political climate, after over 50 years of Palestinian terrorism, that's not very likely, although several hundred thousand Palestinians have emigrated from both Gaza and the West Bank over the past 20 years, mainly to Western Europe or Canada. Israel has quietly facilitated this exodus.)

Today UNRWA has more than 30,000 employees, nearly all of them Palestinians, to manage these 5 million official refugees. (By contrast, the UNHCR, which is responsible for the welfare of more than 20 million real refugees, has 18,000 employees.) While this is represented as "empowering refugees," what it means in practice is that UNRWA has come under the control of the Palestinian political factions to whom these employees owe their first loyalty: primarily Fatah in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza.

UNRWA provides a variety of social services to the officially designated Palestinian refugees, most of whom live in what are usually described as refugee camps but are in fact sizeable towns. This arrangement relieves Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, as well as the Palestinian Authority, of the need to provide services to these communities. It also serves to prevent the Palestinians from integrating into the societies of their host countries, and freezes them into the status of permanent, hereditary refugees, which suits the political agenda of the anti-Israel majority at the UN.

Most notably, UNRWA operates school systems in all the Palestinian localities. Before the current conflict, these schools served about 500,000 students. They are staffed entirely by Palestinians, most of whom are members or supporters of the various Palestinian political factions such as Fatah and Hamas. This is most obviously true in Gaza, where UNRWA provides schools for the large majority of the territory's students, and where Hamas has had complete control of the system since its seizure of power in 2007. It has been claimed that all of the perpetrators of the 7 October attacks on Israel were graduates of UNRWA schools. That cannot be proved, but it is likely that the great majority were.

What is undeniably true is that UNRWA schools have inculcated into several generations of Palestinian youth a visceral hatred of Israelis, Zionists and Jews. They have drawn no distinction between these three categories, which is why the Hamas attackers cheerfully murdered Israeli peace activists such as Vivian Silver. Someone also taught these young Palestinians that the gleeful murder, torture and rape of Israeli Jews is an approved form of "armed struggle" against the Zionist occupiers. If it wasn't UNRWA schools, who was it?

UNRWA's Palestinian employees also get to spend most of UNRWA's $US1.1 billion annual budget. It is a sad fact that all foreign aid programmes are riddled with corruption and embezzlement. In programmes which transfer large amounts of money from rich donors to very poor recipients, this is understandable. In the case of UNRWA, however, the principal motive for diversion of aid money is not survival, or even personal enrichment (although as the opulent mansions of the Fatah and Hamas leadership testify, that is certainly a factor). The motive is mainly military and political.

Both Fatah and Hamas have stolen huge amounts of foreign aid over recent decades, and much of that money has passed through the hands of UNRWA officials before it has been used to buy weapons, build missile sites, dig tunnels and spread antisemitic propaganda. UN officials, most of them supporters of the Palestinian cause, have made no effort to police this, and the donor countries, particularly in Europe, have not been much better. No-one wants to be called an Islamophobe or (even worse) a Zionist for trying to prevent the theft of taxpayer money to fund warfare against Israel.

It should be noted in passing that the great majority of UNRWA's funding comes from Western countries. Before the current conflict, the largest donors were the United States, the European Union, Germany, Britain and Sweden. The EU and its member states together provided over 40% of UNRWA's funds, while the United States provided 29%. The only Arab states to make significant contributions were Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Qatar, although between them they gave less than Sweden. China, India and Russia gave only token amounts, Iran gave nothing. Australia gave $20 million a year.

What this means in effect is that Western taxpayers, including Australia's, have been forking out more than a billion dollars a year to keep 5 million Palestinians penned up in refugee camps in perpetuity, to be used as a weapon in the campaign of the anti-Israel (and anti-Western) majority bloc at the UN to destroy Israel and either kill or drive into exile the 7 million Jews who live there. And all this to create another poor, corrupt, despotic Arab state, run either by the gangsters of Fatah or the religious fanatics of Hamas.

The 7 October attack on Israel and the accompanying atrocities have brought all these matters to a head. Hamas of course knew that the attack would provoke an immediate and massive Israeli response, but they seem to have underestimated the depth of the anger and revulsion that the behaviour of their "fighters" would provoke, not only in Israel but in most of the Western world. They appear not to have anticipated that the attack would force Western governments to acknowledge what they knew all along – that UNRWA has long ago been captured by the Palestinian factions, and that Hamas has been funding its sophisticated military infrastructure in Gaza using Western taxpayer money funnelled to them by UNRWA.

Israel will probably also insist that UNRWA be expelled from Gaza – certainly its control of the education system must end. More broadly, the governments of the Western world – who are paying UNRWA's bills – must now accept that its continued existence is a serious obstacle to any long-term settlement of the Israel-Palestine conflict. It should be disbanded and its functions transferred to agencies not under Palestinian control. It is very unlikely that the anti-Israel majority at the UN will agree to this, but if the Western governments permanently cut off UNRWA's funding, and direct their humanitarian aid to the Palestinians elsewhere, its ability to do further harm will be greatly reduced.

How then have I been inoculated against the biases I criticise my fellow commentators in this thread for showing? I believe the answer, paradoxically, is my membership of the ALP, and more particularly the ALP Right. Since my political affiliation is formal and known in ALP circles, I have to guard especially carefully against partisanship. And since I support a faction dominated by hard-boiled pragmatists and generally hostile to the views of the Australian Greens and the inner urban cosmopolitan elite that forms their voting base, I am better equipped to avoid the trap of that elite groupthink into which many others have fallen and which i regularly see at federal and state election time.)
That residents were defined as persons resident for more than two years in Palestine does not mean that all Palestinians are descended from persons only resident for 2 years and a day. Most were multi-generational residents. Why they fled is irrelevant, they should have been allowed to return, their property should not have been expropriated.

It is notable that Jews who have only very distant relatives resident in Israel / Palestine more than a thousand yers ago are entitled to residence but you deny non-Jews whose ancestors were resident a hundred years ago a right of return.

It is also interesting to look at the way arabs and Palestinians are illustrated in Israeli school textbooks.

Independant audits have not shown that your claims about UNWRA money's being misdirected to be true. This is Israeli government propaganda. Please provide independent evidence to support your claims.

Many Israelis speak a russian dialect (or take any other european language) indistinguishable from Russian, on your argument hey should be settled in Russia. If language defines right of residence, then arguably those who speak a semitic language such as arabic have a greater right than those who speak European languages. (This is your arguement not mine.)
 
I am probably the only person posting here who is married to someone who served in the IDF.
You're certainly the only one here who's claiming special consideration for being an IDF spouse without any supporting evidence. Does your spouse know you're invoking their alleged military service to try to achieve some kind of rhetorical advantage? Do they even know you're posting here?

In case you're inclined to ignore me, I should point out that my spouse is a deputy director in an intelligence agency that I will not name, so of course I know a thing or two about a thing or two. So don't challenge me.
 
Just a note: The left opposes the fact that was the Unionist-controlled pre-1972 Stormont as disregarding self-determination and equal rights for the Catholics (and atheists and more) -- but support the 1947-8 Arab Muslim attempt to impose such a regime in the territory of Mandate Palestine.
This does not make sense; what fact does the left oppose? There was no unanimous view on issues regarding Palestine from the left in 1948, Stalinist Russia supported the creation of Israel, and British Marxists followed that line.
 
You're certainly the only one here who's claiming special consideration for being an IDF spouse without any supporting evidence. Does your spouse know you're invoking their alleged military service to try to achieve some kind of rhetorical advantage? Do they even know you're posting here?

In case you're inclined to ignore me, I should point out that my spouse is a deputy director in an intelligence agency that I will not name, so of course I know a thing or two about a thing or two. So don't challenge me.
All very good points. Yes my spouse does know I post here. My views and those of my spouse are not entirely aligned, but my spouse is on the left, and opposed to current Israeli government policy. We have been on demonstrations against the war together. My response was related to the ad hominem attack suggesting my posts were driven by simple antisemitism. Individual experiences are an appropriate response to individual attacks, but aren't appropriate here, where we try to be more fact based. I should have reported the post to the mods rather than responding. You are correct to pull me up on this.

I would hope your spouse does not share with you intelligence, and certainly the history of intelligence is such (Iraqi WMD) that it should be challenged! A good example of how intelligence at the senior level is hopelessly biased by political views is the nonsense about the origin of SARS-CoV2 put out by the White House and the inability of the combine US intelligence agencies to understand the natural history of pandemics.

ETA Most of my posts are fact based and supported by links to reliable sources. I don't usually repeat links previously provided.
 
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In case you're inclined to ignore me, I should point out that my spouse is a deputy director in an intelligence agency that I will not name, so of course I know a thing or two about a thing or two. So don't challenge me.
Does your spouse know that you're invoking their alleged intelligence position to try to achieve some kind of rhetorical advantage? Do they know that you're using their position to claim an unchallengeable argument?
 
You do know that a significant number of Palestinians are Christians, and the Palestinian state proposed was always a non-Islamic state (even Hamas recognises the rights of Christians). Israelis meanwhile attacks Christian villages in the West Bank.


The mention of fear of Islamism (such as, well, Hamas) so do not try that ever again. Rushdie is the good man your lot pretend Chomsky is. No cowering from a fatwa or losing an eye for Noamie-kins.
 
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Here's a geography lesson for the Friends of Palestine. At left is the river (the Jordan, at the alleged baptismal site of Jesus). At right is the sea (the Mediterranean, at Yafo, looking north to Tel Aviv). The distance between these two spots is only 75km. On that thin strip of land live 7.5 million Jews, about half of all the Jews in the world. This has been the homeland of the Jewish people for over 3,000 years, and they have never ceded sovereignty over it, despite centuries of dispossession at the hands of successive occupiers, from the Romans to the Ottomans. Now your childish banners accuse them of "genocide," while your friends in Hamas openly call for the death or expulsion of 7.5 million Jews, which would the greatest act of genocide since .... since the last attempt to kill all the Jews, in which (as you will recall) the Nazis had the vocal support of the Palestinian leader Amin al-Husseyni. Fortunately, unlike in 1942, the Jews now have a state and a defence force more than capable of defending it from you and your friends. Here are some of them, at the Jordan River site, where Jewish soldiers protect Christian pilgrims.



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The people of Gaza are huddled in their shacks and tents. Winter is about to unleash the rains (the cold and wet weather turns Gaza into a nightmare during regular times; now with everything lying in shambles and the sewers & waste-facilities mostly destroyed, one heavy downpour will be catastrophic).

Jews pray for rain.
 
I am probably the only person posting here who is married to someone who served in the IDF.

My respect, in that case. Not because of who you are, or who your spouse is or was: but because of the position you so steadfastly take here despite that.

(I've said as much to another poster here, who it turned out was a sock: but I'll go out on a limb and say the exact same thing to you as well, taking you at your word, as I did him. ...One of the stark differences, to me, between the two sides, is the fact that, since way before this recent genocidal atrocity by Netanyahu, and under him by Israel and IDF, among the most vocal and best informed and consistently committed critics of Israel's colonial-like apartheid-like policy of suppression of the Palestinians have been Israeli Jews, themselves brought up in that same system, who fought for the same system, and yet had the wits and the spine to eventually realize that they were the bad guys here, and who had the courage and the character to vocalize that loud and clear to the world at large, even at some cost to themselves. ...Gideon Levy comes to mind, but he's not the only one, there's many others whose names I can't recall offhand.)

Being opposed to the actions of the present Israeli government is not anti-Semitic.

Agreed. Such vilification is part of the Israeli playbook, and the playbook adopted by many of its propagandists and cheerleaders. But it's plain dishonest to suggest that equivalence. Of course it isn't antisemitic to criticize Israel's apartheid-like policies and its genocidal barbarity, or to criticize the war criminal Netanyahu.

The denial of the reality of Israeli state terrorism and multiple crimes against humanity only makes you look blind. You are deliberately trying to avoid seeing the reality before you and resorting to ad hominem attacks.

You can find multiple accounts of how German PoWs were treated in the UK. The policy was simple Britain was better than Germany, it obeyed the rules of law. Israel could have decided that it was better than Palestinian terrorists, that it would allow ICRC access to prisoners, that it would not allow abuse of prisoners, but the present Israeli government decided it could be as wicked as its enemies. I have always been explicit in condemning the crimes committed by Hamas. I am also explicit in condemning the crimes committed by the Israeli government. the crimes are similar in nature, but the magnitude of the crimes by the Israeli government is greater, just because they have more fire power. When eichman was hunted he was to be captured alive and tried. Golda Meir said no innocents should be killed in the hunt for the Munich terrorists. Now we see any amount of innocents are to be sacrificed in the hunt for the 7/10 terrorists. A perfect illustration of the slippery slope once governments decide they are above the law.

Extra-judicial murder now seems de rigour, with the US carrying out extra-judicial executions of alleged criminals.

Let me gently suggest that you go back and read one more time the two recent posts of mine that you replied to. Both my initial post addressed to @The Great Zaganza , that you originally responded to, as well as my reply to your response, that you've responded to now.

It wasn't my intent to mislead you, or anyone else, about the intent of my post. I thought my meaning, and my implied criticism, would be completely obvious. But nor do I blame you, or think you obtuse, for having been misled by the obvious parody in my initial post: that only goes to demonstrate how utterly asinine in their brazen disingenuousness and general callousness are the views expressed by the pro-Israel propagandists.

I was just a bit surprised, though, that my explicitly spelling out my parody in so many words in my response to you, still ended up not registering. But no matter. Once again, my sympathies in these troubled times, and my respect for going on defending the truth and defending plain decency, despite the antagonism you no doubt have to face for your views. Please carry on doing that, your substantial posts are much appreciated.
 
Support an actual independent source that isn't Khaldi-ist or well to the left or takes at face value claims by such people - or of groups such as the PLO.

Palestinians are Arabs in culture and language. Palestinian is not a race or an ethnic group.

The Arab League and local leadership launched an explicitly exterminationist war in 1948. They proclaimed, "might means right" and lost.

Allowing them to return was judged to be suicidal.

When you gamble on all or nothing and lose, you get nothing.

A likely State of Palestine will make the worst IDF rogue soldier seem like a romantic boat ride.
 
...and then there were two.

Two Jewish hostage remains are still unaccounted-for, after the return of Meny Godard.

Also there's a Thai national who lost his life & was snatched into Gaza, and Israel is attempting to repatriate his body back home.

While the matter of those final few remains is being handled, the IDF has made some strides towards resolving other issues -- namely, opening the Zikim (WestErez) Crossing which is a full-service transfer facility for large amounts of truck cargo; the provision of aid and materials to the militia groups (clans); safe-passage to around 200 HAMAS cadres who were trapped in tunnels soon being allowed to exit, unarmed, and be provided airline tickets into exile.

And no ceasefire in Judea & Samaria.
Nor in Lebanon.
 
BigFooty.com forums: "I just can't believe the blatant propaganda. Not only the obvious hypocrisy of the whole thing, but the willingness of the population to completely swallow it and opinion polls consistently showing that they're completely on-board with terrorist attacks on the West Bank while complaining about terrorism being a problem for them."



Given that the Palestinian groups with any real power want to destroy their country and murder or expel them?



This poster is not stupid. Please may they not keep being stupid.



Israel has all the land of Mandate Palestine, the only functioning market economy in the region and the strongest military. It can afford the long game.

The Arabs who identify as Palestinians cannot.
 
I will also repeat my debunking of the western left-Global South's unholy alliance's main talking point.

The relevant piece of international law is the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide of 1948. It defines genocide as follows:

Genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

(a) Killing members of the group;

(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

To establish that a country is guilty of genocide, therefore, it is not enough to show that the country has committed some or all of the listed acts. It is necessary to show that they did so "with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group." The key word is INTENT. To convict Israel of genocide, you need to show that Israel INTENDS to destroy the Palestinian people, or at least those of them living in Gaza.

The intellectual left-leaning allies of the collection of authoritarian and corrupt states that are the majority in the UN cannot do that, because it is not in fact Israel's intent to destroy the Palestinian people. If it was, they could have killed the entire population of Gaza from the air ten times over by now, without risking the life of a single Israeli soldier. Israel's military operations in Gaza are intended to destroy Hamas, not to kill Palestinians. Civilian casualties in Gaza are the product of two decisions by Hamas - to start a war by launching the 7 October 2023 attack on Israel, and to use the population of Gaza as human shields in the conduct of that war.

Hamas and its cheer-squad in the west claim that 70,000 people have been killed in Gaza. We have no way of verifying that number, but let's assume it's correct. If it is, that means that Israel has killed about 3% of the population of Gaza (2.2 million), and of course that figure includes about 12,000 Hamas combatants. This is in fact not a very high figure. It is about what we would expect after two years of intense urban warfare, particularly warfare in which one side deliberately exposes the civilian population to danger by placing its military infrastructure in and under schools, hospitals, mosques and apartment blocks.

It is instructive to compare Israel's alleged genocide in Gaza with other examples of genocide in modern times.

* The Turks (who now accuse Israel of genocide), killed up to 1.5 million Armenians in two years (1915-17).

* In occupied Poland, the Germans killed 1.5 million Jews in 18 months in Action Reinhard (1942-43).

* In Hungary, the Germans and their Hungarian allies killed 430,000 Jews in three months (May-July 1944).

* In Nigeria, 3 to 4 million Igbo people were deliberately starved to death during the Nigerian Civil War (1967-70).

* In Bangladesh, the Pakistani army killed 500,000 people in eight months (March-December 1971)

* In Rwanda, the Hutu killed 600,000 Tutsi in four months (April-July 1994).

* In Sudan, the army killed 200,000 people in the Darfur region in two years (2003-05) and is still doing so now.

It does seem strange that the Israelis, who have themselves, within living memory, experienced an attempted genocide, and who ought to be very clear about how to commit genocide, have proved so completely incompetent at committing genocide in Gaza.
 
We have seen entire cities blocked , violent protests , universities blockaded ( Jewish professors attacked in their own offices)

We have had singers at festivals call for death to the IDF and Oscar winners villainize israel in their speeches. We saw Greta and friends get enormous publicity for their ( Hamas owned ) flotilla.

But in relation to Darfur there is nothing but silence.

No one is filling town squares or blockading campuses.

Celebrities aren’t heading toward the African coast on a flotilla.

Nothing.

Just silence.

If the recent protests about Gaza were really about starvation and genocide they would now be in the streets demanding action in Darfur.
 
We have seen entire cities blocked , violent protests , universities blockaded ( Jewish professors attacked in their own offices)

We have had singers at festivals call for death to the IDF and Oscar winners villainize israel in their speeches. We saw Greta and friends get enormous publicity for their ( Hamas owned ) flotilla.

But in relation to Darfur there is nothing but silence.

No one is filling town squares or blockading campuses.

Celebrities aren’t heading toward the African coast on a flotilla.

Nothing.

Just silence.

If the recent protests about Gaza were really about starvation and genocide they would now be in the streets demanding action in Darfur.
Can you provide evidence that the flotilla (i.e. all or most of the boats) was owned by Hamas?

Which cities have been entirely blocked?

Can you provide a link to the Jewish professor attacked in their own office?

There is not silence over darfur;

I am unaware of anyone trying to justify the deaths of civilians in Darfur as legitimate collateral damage etc. There aren't the protests because western governments aren't supplying arms to either side, and everyone thinks it is wrong.
 
Can you provide evidence that the flotilla (i.e. all or most of the boats) was owned by Hamas?


"...a significant number of the vessels were either owned or financed by Hamas or affiliates, including a front company named “Neptune Cyber” linked to the NGO Palestinian Conference for Palestinians Abroad."

The Israelis are moving ahead with legal proceedings to confiscate the vessels.
Specific evidence of ownership or financing will be presented in court.

'Global Samud' is not going to try that ◊◊◊◊ again.

Which cities have been entirely blocked?
New York City, USA: Protesters blocked major infrastructure points including the Brooklyn Bridge, Manhattan Bridge, Williamsburg Bridge, and the Holland Tunnel, causing significant commuter chaos.
San Francisco/Seattle, USA: Anti-Israel activists blocked the Golden Gate Bridge and the expressway leading to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.
Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia, and Washington D.C., USA: Protesters also blocked major roadways in these cities. (arteries serving as key access routes being blockaded is sufficient to prevent people from entering and leaving the cities)

While the word 'entirely' may be disputed, the general effect is clear: Disrupt the normal flow of the population and cause widespread anger & aggravation.

Can you provide a link to the Jewish professor attacked in their own office?

Also, just a few days ago, Toronto Police responded to a violent incident at Toronto Metropolitan University, where a guest lecturer (an Israeli) was speaking.

And in regards to Canada --
 

"...a significant number of the vessels were either owned or financed by Hamas or affiliates, including a front company named “Neptune Cyber” linked to the NGO Palestinian Conference for Palestinians Abroad."

The Israelis are moving ahead with legal proceedings to confiscate the vessels.
Specific evidence of ownership or financing will be presented in court.

'Global Samud' is not going to try that ◊◊◊◊ again.


New York City, USA: Protesters blocked major infrastructure points including the Brooklyn Bridge, Manhattan Bridge, Williamsburg Bridge, and the Holland Tunnel, causing significant commuter chaos.
San Francisco/Seattle, USA: Anti-Israel activists blocked the Golden Gate Bridge and the expressway leading to Seattle-Tacoma International Airport.
Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia, and Washington D.C., USA: Protesters also blocked major roadways in these cities. (arteries serving as key access routes being blockaded is sufficient to prevent people from entering and leaving the cities)

While the word 'entirely' may be disputed, the general effect is clear: Disrupt the normal flow of the population and cause widespread anger & aggravation.



Also, just a few days ago, Toronto Police responded to a violent incident at Toronto Metropolitan University, where a guest lecturer (an Israeli) was speaking.

And in regards to Canada --
Masked protestors storm classroom; so NOT an attack on a professor in his office. I condemn the harassment of this individual merely because he served in the IDF. Most people join the IDF as teenagers, and are conscripted. They have little choice and plenty of time for opinions to mature. The video shows a noisy protest but no physical assault.

The second was a visiting IDF veteran giving a talk, so NOT an attack on a professor NOR in his office.

There is no evidence all or most of the flotilla boats were owned by Hamas. Some may have been owned by non-Hamas pro-Palestinian groups. Israel may well be able to argue in Isreali courts for seizure of boats illegally intercepted on the high sea outside of Israeli (or Palestinian) territorial waters. It doesn't make your claim true.

There are no doubt posters here more familiar with the protests in the US who can clarify if those cities were entirely blocked or whether you are exaggerating for effect.

There is no need to exaggerate. Lying just makes your case seem weak. Stick to the facts.
 
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