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Cont: The thread for stupidity from GQP politicians who don't have their own thread Part II

Safe-Keeper said:
Fuentes will have his comeuppance. I'm sure of it. And no, I'm not AdVoCaTinG FoR VioLeNce or even talking about violence, I'm saying that what he's saying is bad enough that it will cost him, down the road. If he wants to isolate himself to only appeal to a tiny subset of woman-hating, racist people, so be it. He'll regret it down the road.
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Given the situation, and the great possibility that Vance will end up at least for a while in power, attacking him seems poor policy for a Republican. It's kind of amusing, though, for those who expect the post-Trump era to be a scrambling of vultures. In any case, though I'm not convinced that racist woman hating people are a tiny subset, I do think those who identify as such are, and saying the quiet parts out loud is imprudent.
 
bruto said:
Given the situation, and the great possibility that Vance will end up at least for a while in power, attacking him seems poor policy for a Republican.
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Nick is a nazi not a republican so I don't see why it would be better for him to go against brand and suddenly support race mixing and the like. What next stop being anti semitic if there was someone powerful in the republican party who was jewish?
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
All objectivists think that the government should play no part in helping people, except when it comes to themselves alone.

It's what their god, the grate St Ayn herself proclaimed.
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"Objectivists" should logically think that?? Why?

Objectively, it is financially and socially a better outcome that some form of universal health care is employed to support of unwell people in a community. It keeps the community stronger by keeping more of them healthy and thus productive and contributing to that community. Better health also keeps communities "happier" and cohesive. And it is a generally more effective and efficient way to expend community treasure to achieve that outcome. Most societies on this planet have already caught on to this.

Objectively, this notion that every man is their own island when it comes to their health is extraordinarily primitive and selfish. You could even say it is anti-family.
 
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I don't understand what is going on here. What exactly is Karen Mace complaining about? That security did something, didn't do something? And why was security needed?
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That nobody anticipated that she'd royally ◊◊◊◊ up and cover every eventuality (at ridiculous expense during a shutdown tbat's hurting millions).
 
Norman Alexander said:
"Objectivists" should logically think that?? Why?

Objectively, it is financially and socially a better outcome that some form of universal health care is employed to support of unwell people in a community. It keeps the community stronger by keeping more of them healthy and thus productive and contributing to that community. Better health also keeps communities "happier" and cohesive. And it is a generally more effective and efficient way to expend community treasure to achieve that outcome. Most societies on this planet have already caught on to this.

Objectively, this notion that every man is their own island when it comes to their health is extraordinarily primitive and selfish. You could even say it is anti-family.
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I never mentioned logic. All objectivists are obliged to cultishly obey every pronunciamento of the grate god St Ayn, no matter how illogical and contradictory (such as women not being allowed to have any power over men).
 
Norman Alexander said:
So... The who, now??

This sort of thing does grate, yes.
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Objectivism is a religion philosophy named by that religion's philosophy's inventor, Ayn Rand. If you're a masochist, you can read her novels. For everyone else, the basic ideas of objectivism are summarized pretty well by the following "Ask Ayn Rand" parody, which appeared in an MIT student newspaper, and which I attempt to quote from memory.

Dear Ayn: I agree with Objectionable Philosophy that reality must be as we perceive it, as otherwise it would be confusing. My friend says that doesn't follow. Whenever I press the point, he turns inside out and vanishes. What can I say to convince him?​
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Ayn: Your friend is obviously a solipsist. My advice is to buy yourself another friend.​
 
W.D.Clinger said:
Objectivism is a religion philosophy named by that religion's philosophy's inventor, Ayn Rand. If you're a masochist, you can read her novels. For everyone else, the basic ideas of objectivism are summarized pretty well by the following "Ask Ayn Rand" parody, which appeared in an MIT student newspaper, and which I attempt to quote from memory.

Dear Ayn: I agree with Objectionable Philosophy that reality must be as we perceive it, as otherwise it would be confusing. My friend says that doesn't follow. Whenever I press the point, he turns inside out and vanishes. What can I say to convince him?​
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Ayn: Your friend is obviously a solipsist. My advice is to buy yourself another friend.​
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That's the philosophy part. The political application of Objectivism has always been "certain people are special and that's why they're extremely wealthy", or perhaps they're extremely wealthy because they're special. Either way, Rand's modern day political fans adore the men (it's always males) who they'd call "entrepreneurs" and everyone else would call "plutocratic oligarchs". They're special men, you see. These are the people who buy into the notion that Elon Musk is a super genius -- he simply must be, otherwise he wouldn't have all that money! They also think that they're these special ubermen, too...but most of them are just temporarily embarrassed billionaires. They'll get their money eventually, because they deserve it, and the universe owes it to them, and so does the rest of humanity, which they hold in contempt because they are superior.

I'm not a big fan, does it show? It's hard to come up with a more anti-American set of beliefs.
 
W.D.Clinger said:
Objectivism is a religion philosophy named by that religion's philosophy's inventor, Ayn Rand. If you're a masochist, you can read her novels. For everyone else, the basic ideas of objectivism are summarized pretty well by the following "Ask Ayn Rand" parody, which appeared in an MIT student newspaper, and which I attempt to quote from memory.

Dear Ayn: I agree with Objectionable Philosophy that reality must be as we perceive it, as otherwise it would be confusing. My friend says that doesn't follow. Whenever I press the point, he turns inside out and vanishes. What can I say to convince him?​
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Ayn: Your friend is obviously a solipsist. My advice is to buy yourself another friend.​
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I've always found this (from Wikipedia) rather telling about her:

In 1974, Rand had surgery for lung cancer after decades of heavy smoking. In 1976, she retired from her newsletter and, despite her lifelong objections to any government-run program, was enrolled in and claimed Social Security and Medicare with the aid of a social worker. Her activities in the Objectivist movement declined, especially after her husband died on November 9, 1979. One of her final projects was a never-completed television adaptation of Atlas Shrugged.
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I guess she never did get to be one of those rich people she admired.

She was truly a piece of ◊◊◊◊.
 
shemp said:
I've always found this (from Wikipedia) rather telling about her:



I guess she never did get to be one of those rich people she admired.

She was truly a piece of ◊◊◊◊.
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The objectivist leaders tend to be hypocritical. Ayn ended up being one of those people that she preached hate about. Rand Paul was a "taker" before getting wealthy and being a "giver." Objectivists are usually people that have all the things and stuffs preaching to others that they should never have to pay taxes and help others who don't have things and stuffs. It's just another Republican philosophy "I got mine, screw everyhone else."
 
MAGA congressional candidate blocks Black woman from voting—calls her "the Jasmine Crockett type."

"You are a stereotypical Black woman that nobody likes to deal with," he says.

Theodis Daniel is father of teen cancer survivor DJ Daniel—who was sworn in as honorary ICE agent on May 16, 2025—and a special guest of Trump during his State of the Union.

"Following his remarks, Mr. Daniel went so far as to attempt to interfere with my right to vote," wrote Charity Zhoni.

"I am very aware of who Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is... I know he meant it as an insult, but I took it as one of the highest compliments I've ever received in my life."

The incident occurred outside the Acres Homes Multi-Service Center in Houston, Texas.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1986476553392251004
 
Andy_Ross said:
MAGA congressional candidate blocks Black woman from voting—calls her "the Jasmine Crockett type."

"You are a stereotypical Black woman that nobody likes to deal with," he says.

Theodis Daniel is father of teen cancer survivor DJ Daniel—who was sworn in as honorary ICE agent on May 16, 2025—and a special guest of Trump during his State of the Union.

"Following his remarks, Mr. Daniel went so far as to attempt to interfere with my right to vote," wrote Charity Zhoni.

"I am very aware of who Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett is... I know he meant it as an insult, but I took it as one of the highest compliments I've ever received in my life."

The incident occurred outside the Acres Homes Multi-Service Center in Houston, Texas.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1986476553392251004
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Who the ◊◊◊◊ are these ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ clowns? In any normal world, the cops would be here, and they'd all be cuffed on the ground and charged with violating her civil rights to vote!
 
shemp said:
Who the ◊◊◊◊ are these ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ clowns? In any normal world, the cops would be here, and they'd all be cuffed on the ground and charged with violating her civil rights to vote!
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There was some tiny little cop standing beside the first dude with the cellphone. Couldn't he have done his sworn duty and kept these harassers at bay, away from this woman? No?
 
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