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Transwomen are not Women - Part 15

A group of girls discover a man apparently masturbating in a cubicle in a woman's toilet, and hunt him out.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1985878088048394421

Oh, but what harm was he doing? He didn't try to harm anyone! If he'd stayed behind the closed door who would have been any the wiser? It's a victimless crime!

He's not trans! Nothing to do with trans! A real transwoman would never do this, she would only want to pee in peace!

How can anyone tell whether he's trans or not? There is no particular way to present that transwomen have to adhere to. In any case, all he has to do is to say "I'm a woman, it's my right to be here" to have everyone in authority genuflecting to him and accusing the girls of a hate crime. This is where accommodating the trans cult has got us.
 
Rolfe said:
More detail about the pro-trans bias in the BBC.

www.telegraph.co.uk

BBC trans coverage ‘censored’ by its own reporters

Corporation’s LGBT desk ‘keeps other perspectives off air’, leaked internal dossier claims
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk

Also the details about how the Panorama programme distorted its reporting of that Trump speech, although that would be better discussed in its own thread.


You may need to use "Reader View" to see this one, but it's worth it, the details are shocking. If you can access the native version of the article it shows unedited clips beside the Panorama footage, and it's absolutely damning.
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It is well known, and well understood, among those of us who pay close attention to how the various media reports stories, that both the BBC and The Guardian actively suppresses (or wilfully doesn't report or publish) any story that does not fit the political ideology of their editorial hierarchy and those higher the food chain. Anything that casts Palestinian activists or TRAs in a bad light (or puts Israel or Gender Critical people in a good light) simply does not get reported. The case in point is a classic example.... We know, for a fact that the "199 Days Later" marches actually happened. We know for a fact that they took place in London, Edinburgh and Cardiff. How do we know?
- Because they were well advertised by the organizers.
- Because they were widely reported by people who actually took part.
- Because they were live streamed (the whole three ours plus) on YouTube, and Tik Tok.

We also know there were arrests of Trans Rights Activists, because we have seen video and photos from both members of the general public, and media photojournalists.
So, how do we know the BBC and the Guardian suppressed this story? We know because not only did they not report the arrests .. there is NO mention of the march even taking place.
The BBC and The Guardian have become biased and unreliable. Their reputation for fair and balanced reporting lays in tatters.
 
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And then we say, look, these things happened, and we're met with, prove it. We point to reports in the Daily Fail and GB News, to be told that these are biassed rags and may be discounted as probably making the whole thing up. We point to eyewitness accounts on Twitter and other social media, and we're asked how we know all these people all describing the same thing (often with video) aren't making it all up. It's a "tweety" and it's a deliberate lie, of course.

Only if it's reported by the trans-cult's pet outlets will the blindly loyal trans supporters even consider for one second that it might actually be true, but these outlets will not report it.
 
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And then we say, look, these things happened, and we're met with, prove it. We point to reports in the Daily Fail and GB News, to be told that these are biassed rags and may be discounted as probably making the whole thing up. We point to eyewitness accounts on Twitter and other social media, and we're asked how we know all these people all describing the same thing (often with video) aren't making it all up. It's a "tweety" and it's a deliberate lie, of course.

Only if it's reported by the trans-cult's pet outlets will the blindly loyal trans supporters even consider for one second that it might actually be true, but these outlets will not report it.
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I am prepared to accept that media such as the Daily Mail, the Daily Mirror, the Telegraph and GB news have a right wing bias when it comes to opinions, to commentary, in their editorial slant, and in their selection of which stories to cover or publish. However, I am NOT prepared to accept that such bias invalidates their reliability when it comes to verifiable facts they publish, e.g., actual verifiable video footage, actual verifiable photographs and actual verifiable Police statements.

In the case in point, the Police reported they arrested three people.

Meanwhile, a counter-protest organised by Trans Kids Deserve Better was held in Victoria Embankment Gardens. Three individuals have since been arrested, one on suspicion of criminal damage and two others for breaching Public Order Act conditions put in place by the Met Police. ​

... The Metropolitan Police are name-checked here (for the benefit of @Thermal that is the London Police and NOT the Edinburgh police, who are known as Police Scotland). If any of this was untrue, the Metropolitan Police would call out GB News for giving false information, and their left wing rivals over at the Guardian or the BBC would jump at the chance to tell the world what liars 'tHoSe DeSpIcAbLe RiGhT wInG rAgS' are.

Additionally, refuting a claim about the factuality of a right wing source is NOT, repeat NOT achieved by demanding authentication from an obvious left wing source. In this case, independent sources such as photographs from unbiased photo-journalists *1, and actual video of the arrests taking place was more than enough to verify the source as accurate

*1 For those who don't know (and that will be most reading this) it is a very serious breach of professional ethics for a photojournalist to intentionally misrepresent or mis-caption the content and subject of a photograph they have taken. Its is even worse if they subsequently have it published with a false caption or citation, or if they register it with an image licensor such as Alamy, Getty Images or Newscom.
Doing so will almost certanly end their ability to register image content and licence to others.
 
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BTW, just thought I'd mention that I'm off to Christchurch this weekend to hear Dr. Helen Joyce speak at the Free Speech Union on Saturday afternoon. We're bound to run into some scummy TRA morons at this event, although I'm told security is going to be very tight.

I will try to post a few thoughts after the event.
 
Oh, great stuff. She's an excellent speaker.

The thing is, there was an error in the initial GB News article about this, at least in the headline. (They may have corrected it since then, I don't know.) The headline said that the arrests had been made when the TRAs clashed with the women's rights protestors. Everyone who was there said that's not what happened. The police kept the screaming mob of abusive TRAs away from the women, and no such clash occurred. Rather, the arrests happened when the TRAs, enraged by not being able to shout down the speakers at the women's event (as the police had allowed them to do at previous events), became violent and tried to break through the police cordon.

I think this was unintentional sloppy journalism, but it did give the false impression that the women protestors were involved in a violent clash. If GB News was as biassed as all that, they wouldn't have made such a mistake. However, when I mentioned the mistake earlier, all I got from Thermal was a sneer that supposedly GB News never makes mistakes.

I think the absolutely outrageous situation in September when the Scottish police protected Tom Harlow, allowed him to drown out a women's event (which had permission to be there) with earsplitting "music", and then announced that criminal charges would be brought against the organiser of the women's event for touching the already-broken umbrella he brandished in her face, might have been the last straw. This garnered extraordinary bad publicity for the police and there are indications that senior officers are annoyed and embarrassed. Let's hope the policing of these events continues to be better, going forward.

Let's hope also that the Welsh police get the memo. They turned up to the event in Cardiff in a squad car festooned with pro-trans stickers and allowed the TRAs to do what they liked and disrupt the women's event. That caused extremely bad feeling.

GB News are odd. They pander to right-wing viewers in general. They run a fair number of articles bashing electric cars. But they also report accurately on the increasing popularity of the cars and sometimes run an article pointing out how great they are. The comments on these latter articles are hilarious.
 
Waiting for Thermal to return and tell us again that the women were the counter-protestors who "brought violence" to a peaceful pro-trans event. How there were two arrests, not three, and one of those arrested was a women's rights protestor. And how this happened in Scotland. Except it didn't because there is no record of an arrest by the Scottish police. And how the entire thing, despite being widely advertised in advance and many eyewitness accounts with video being available on social media, never happened at all but was invented for propaganda purposes by GB News and the Daily Mail. Who nevertheless reported the truth, that violent women attacked a peaceful pro-trans event.

And how, despite this all being a Gish Gallop of nonsense, he still occupies the moral high ground because he's "sledgehammering the delivery". And all the many lurkers on this thread (which most members here never come near) understand perfectly the subtle and devastating point he's making (although they never post to explain this), and it's just us yahoos with PhDs and Mensa-level IQs who are too dumb to understand his genius.
 
smartcooky said:
For those who don't know (and that will be most reading this) it is a very serious breach of professional ethics for a photojournalist to intentionally misrepresent or mis-caption the content and subject of a photograph they have taken. Its is even worse if they subsequently have it published with a false caption or citation, or if they register it with an image licensor such as Alamy, Getty Images or Newscom.
Doing so will almost certanly end their ability to register image content and licence to others.
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What the BBC did with their "creative" editing of the Trump speech, as exposed by the Telegraph, was very similar to this. They misrepresented what Trump actually said, blatantly and deliberately. But Thermal thinks that's all just fine, because Trump actually said these words (just not in that order), and it was a while ago anyway.

They've done similar in the past. Notoriously, at the time of the miners' strike in the 1980s, they reversed the order of footage to make it look as if the pickets had begun rioting before the police charged (at Orgreave, I think), when in fact the mounted police had charged a peaceful assembly, sparking the rioting. Something about making it look as if the Queen had marched out of some event in the huff when she did no such thing has also been mentioned. Don't trust them.
 
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Rolfe said:
Waiting for Thermal to return and tell us again that the women were the counter-protestors who "brought violence" to a peaceful pro-trans event. How there were two arrests, not three, and one of those arrested was a women's rights protestor. And how this happened in Scotland. Except it didn't because there is no record of an arrest by the Scottish police. And how the entire thing, despite being widely advertised in advance and many eyewitness accounts with video being available on social media, never happened at all but was invented for propaganda purposes by GB News and the Daily Mail. Who nevertheless reported the truth, that violent women attacked a peaceful pro-trans event.

And how, despite this all being a Gish Gallop of nonsense, he still occupies the moral high ground because he's "sledgehammering the delivery". And all the many lurkers on this thread (which most members here never come near) understand perfectly the subtle and devastating point he's making (although they never post to explain this), and it's just us yahoos with PhDs and Mensa-level IQs who are too dumb to understand his genius.
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Since you called out to lurkers, of which I've been one for years, (maybe the only one?) will you please just let this go. It's been like 4 pages of crowing about one mistake Thermal made. Yeah he doubled down, like 99% of people on the internet do. He isn't going to grovel at your feet for apology as you get more and more haughty and obnoxious. Going on and on and on and on about it isn't making him more wrong. It's making me look a lot more closely at what you claim happened and wonder where the charges are for affray, violent disorder, assault and whatnot.
 
Rolfe said:
Oh, great stuff. She's an excellent speaker.
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Indeed. I'm going with my daughters (both TERFS of course, especially after their experiences) and my teenage granddaughters (also TERFS). Should be a good day.

Rolfe said:
The thing is, there was an error in the initial GB News article about this, at least in the headline. (They may have corrected it since then, I don't know.) The headline said that the arrests had been made when the TRAs clashed with the women's rights protestors.
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Nope, I'm not giving him the benefit of that doubt.

The article @Thermal got his panties in a bunch over over was the one I posted in this post. It was a Daily Mail article not a GB News article

The date/time of that post was Sunday, 02 Nov 2025 @ 02:59 UTC.

I just went to the Wayback Machine and found the article as it was captured on Saturday 01 Nov 2025 @ 22:35 UTC ...

That is 4 hours 24 minutes before I posted it - and the two articles are the same

In London, the demonstrations led by Grassroots Women kicked off in Parliament Square before concluding in a rally on Richmond Terrace. ​
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'A static counter-protest, led by Trans Kids Deserve Better, took place in Victoria Embankment Gardens. Conditions were put in place under s.14 Public Order Act to prevent serious disruption.​
'Officers made three arrests at the counter-protest, one on suspicion of criminal damage and two for breaching the Public Order Act conditions.​
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If he is claiming that the article said there were only two arrests and one of them was one of the Grassroots Women protesters and not the TRAs, then I have caught him in another lie.... well colour me surprised.
 
Shrinker said:
Since you called out to lurkers, of which I've been one for years, (maybe the only one?) will you please just let this go. It's been like 4 pages of crowing about one mistake Thermal made. Yeah he doubled down, like 99% of people on the internet do. He isn't going to grovel at your feet for apology as you get more and more haughty and obnoxious. Going on and on and on and on about it isn't making him more wrong. It's making me look a lot more closely at what you claim happened and wonder where the charges are for affray, violent disorder, assault and whatnot.
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The problem is, this wasn't a mistake... it was intentional misrepresentation of the facts. When called on it, he doubled down and continued to double down, and then, as usual, getting more and more insulting.

If a poster continues to lie, I WILL continue to call those lies out.
 
Shrinker said:
Since you called out to lurkers, of which I've been one for years, (maybe the only one?) will you please just let this go. It's been like 4 pages of crowing about one mistake Thermal made. Yeah he doubled down, like 99% of people on the internet do. He isn't going to grovel at your feet for apology as you get more and more haughty and obnoxious. Going on and on and on and on about it isn't making him more wrong. It's making me look a lot more closely at what you claim happened and wonder where the charges are for affray, violent disorder, assault and whatnot.
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It's far more than one mistake. And not only is he doubling down, he's asserting the moral high ground because five-dimensional chess or something. He does it repeatedly, in between calling other posters deliberate liars if they post something he doesn't think stands up to his rigorous fact-checking standards (that is, does it support his world-view?)

If he keeps this up, I'm going to keep challenging him.
 
smartcooky said:
Nope, I'm not giving him the benefit of that doubt.
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I wasn't suggesting that at all. I was pointing out that there was an inaccuracy, but that it was nothing at all to do with his misinterpretation of the story. I agree entirely that his wild misunderstandings were mainly of the Daily Mail article, mainly as regards who were the protestors and who were the counter-protesters, how many arrests were made, which side of the dispute the arrested people were on, and whether this took place in London or Edinburgh.

Asking an AI about arrests in Edinburgh when the article clearly reported arrests in London complete with a clear verbatim statement from the Metropolitan Police was a new low.

And if all our "lurkers" can do is say, quit challenging poor wee Thermal even though he's obviously in the wrong, maybe they better go back to lurking.
 
Well, I'm prepared to admit when I'm wrong. I opined that the bloke in the women's changing room at Gold's gym was probably an ordinary pervert just trying it on because he knew he could. Sorry.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1986334405393330634

He had already been kicked out of two other gyms for the same behaviour and he is certainly trans.
 
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This compilation montage of the pro-trans counter-protestors at the 199-days events gives a good flavour of what they're like. Absolute roasters. These are the people Thermal and others think we should "be kind" to and allow into our intimate spaces.

I've occasionally heard trans allies declare that no, it's only the nice, vulnerable ones who should be allowed in. But nobody has any suggestions as to how we keep any of these guys out, if  some males are allowed in.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1986203230616097066

Note the other trans-activists in the background. Masks, black clothes and so on. Exactly the outfits Thermal claimed were likely to indicate women's rights activists. Er, no.
 
Shrinker said:
Since you called out to lurkers, of which I've been one for years, (maybe the only one?) will you please just let this go. It's been like 4 pages of crowing about one mistake Thermal made. Yeah he doubled down, like 99% of people on the internet do. He isn't going to grovel at your feet for apology as you get more and more haughty and obnoxious.
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This guy gets it. Thank you, Shrinker. I was wondering how long this would go on.

Admittedly, I made a mistake on the first comment. Then the trolling started, and yes, I counter trolled, even making more fact-switching. I'm not sure if that makes me a bad poster, but I've been doing it for years here, mirroring trolling right back at them. But I probably shouldn't do that, I guess.
Shrinker said:
Going on and on and on and on about it isn't making him more wrong. It's making me look a lot more closely at what you claim happened and wonder where the charges are for affray, violent disorder, assault and whatnot.
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And that was the reason. These guys won't engage when called out. Hell, I called out one for a bull ◊◊◊◊ retweety just prior to this, and she wouldn't defend a word of it, as has been her multi-year habit. But she'll deliver a magnum opus when she knows she's in the right (see the wall o' text above).

So yeah, I probably shouldn't have done that. Mea culpa. It wasn't going to be productive, so I should have let it go. But it ultimately sorta got the desired result. They engaged in the facts for a change, and the facts are not as strong as the initial assertion would lead a reader to think.
 
You weren't being trolled, you were being corrected. Pretending that your doubling-down is some kind of performance art is quite hilarious though. Even Shrinker didn't fall for that.

And the facts are rock solid. With a verbatim statement from the Metropolitan Police to support them.
 
Rolfe said:
You weren't being trolled, you were being corrected. Pretending that your doubling-down is some kind of performance art is quite hilarious though. Even Shrinker didn't fall for that.

And the facts are rock solid. With a verbatim statement from the Metropolitan Police to support them.
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Rolfe, you of all people know I read the ◊◊◊◊. I call you out repeatedly for posting lies, and present receipts. I just did so with your Halloween porch pirate.

Yes, I made an inconsequential mistake when I started. Then I blatantly trolled, adding yet more fact switching. Even now, you won't accept a full acknowledgement of what I most assuredly sledgehammered.

You, and the others, are behaving exactly as anticipated for bad faith posters. Pages and pages you go on, but you won't defend a single lie that you get called out on.
 
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