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Split Thread Are Antifa and violent leftists the cause of everything wrong in America?

Trausti said:
I lived in Seattle during Occupy Wall Street. That Black Bloc/Antifa would use these protests as cover for property damage was just kind of known.
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Unfortunately, "just kind of known" isn't particularly trustworthy when coming from those who drink deep from right-wing propaganda screaming about obvious boogeymen.

Again, though, it is entirely plausible and believable that some people who identify as Antifa did and do use various protests as cover for crimes. This behavior isn't even remotely limited to Antifa, though. At last check, in the bigger picture, such actions tend to primarily be done by the far less affiliated opportunists and criminal elements of America.

When it comes to the more specifically politically motivated problems that are caused in general, of course, which is worth more of a look after this comment -

Trausti said:
The real threat is Islamism and how the Left are being its useful idiots. Again.
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UMD-Led Study Shows Disparities in Violence Among Extremist Groups
First-of-its-kind Look at Left, Right, and Islamist Extremists Explores Similarities, Differences

Alongside Katarzyna Jasko from Poland’s Jagiellonian University, James Piazza from Pennsylvania State University, and Michael H. Becker, a graduate student in public policy at American University, LaFree looked at two datasets containing information about violent acts by left-wing, right-wing and Islamist extremist groups. The researchers believe this to be the first time that acts of violence by these three groups have been directly compared; previously, researchers primarily relied on attitude-based surveys and assessments to predict each group’s propensity to commit violence.


Through the first dataset, the Profiles of Individual Radicalization in the United States (PIRUS), the researchers zeroed in on acts of extremism in the United States from 1948-2018. They found nearly no difference between the likelihood of an Islamist extremist and a right-wing extremist committing an act of violence; the probability of a violent act of extremism in the United States being committed by a left-wing extremist was found to be 0.33, 0.61 by a right-wing extremist, and 0.62 by an Islamist extremist.


The second dataset, START’s Global Terrorism Database, provided information about violent acts of terrorism from around the world from 1970-2017, with “terrorism” being defined as “the threatened or actual use of illegal force and violence by non-state actors to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion, or intimidation.” After narrowing down the dataset to only include serious acts committed by people pledging allegiance to a group that can be classified as left-wing, right-wing or Islamist extremist—five or more acts per person—the researchers were left to analyze nearly 72,000 attacks from 523 unique subgroups.


From these global insights, the researchers found that despite similarities observed between right-wing and Islamist extremists in the United States, globally, attacks by Islamist extremists are 131% more likely to result in fatalities than attacks by right-wing extremists. Consistent with findings at the U.S. level, attacks by left-wing extremists are 45% less likely to result in fatalities when compared to attacks by right-wing extremists.
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TLDR, plus just a little extra? The Left ends up as the least problematic, by far, both in probability and severity. The Right and Islam? Both far worse. Globally, Islam's worse in severity, but not really probability, but Islam's presence in the US is quite limited, while the right-wing's presence in the US is ubiquitous. Hence why, in the US, the threat of and problems caused by right wing terrorism normally notably outclasses the threat of and problems caused by Islamic terrorism and tends to utterly dwarf the threat of and actual problems caused by the already far, far less numerous Left-wing extremists.
 
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Trausti said:
Communism itself, no. Everyone knows commies are looney.
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It's blanket statements like this that prove to me that you're credibility is next to nil, and anything else you say is obviously BS in my opinion.

I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it:

Anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows that blanket statements are usually (if not always) based on lies.

IOW, have you talked to everyone in Russia, or anyone from any other communist country, or are you just making that "looney" crap up?

This is why I hate blanket statements, but it does help me to find the ones that have less than three brain cells.

And what's with this "everyone knows" crap anyway?

Who the hell are you talking about?
 
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Gulliver Foyle said:
I believe the actual address is General Daniel Cane, Office of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, The Pentagon, Arlington County, Virginia, USA.

You'll have to look up the zip code yourself.
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LOL get your point. 😁

But in our lamented interlocutor's view, antifa is a bunch of black leotard bomb throwers funded by Soros, supposedly doing the work of the global secret Star Tribunal, or the Catholic Cabal, or the Sharia Mafia...or something. You know...enemies only in his head.
 
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AmyStrange said:
They don't, but why do the maga weirdoes love the lying, POS jackass, fat clown so much?

I'll tell you why, because they love liars.
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Of course the Left does. It's nothing new. Iranian leftists celebrated the return of the Ayatollah. They were then rounded up and shot. The Left and Islamist have a shared hatred of the West. The Left are useful idiots. Queers for Palestine. Good, grief.
 
AmyStrange said:
Yeah, I live in Seattle right now, and all of that is a lie, but what do you expect from a moron who loves a fat clown that lies like the rest of breath.
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Kinda of surprising sentiment. I thought the progressive Left liked Chris Hedges.
 
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