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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Emily's Cat said:
There seems to be a pretty common theme involved in the Top 10. They're all books that contain sexually explicit passages. Seems a lot of people don't support public institutions providing literary pornography to minors. Weird.
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"I can't define pornography but I know it when I see it!" :oops:
 
Hercules56 said:
With parental consent, kids can see movies that show sex. Books with porn should not be banned from kids unless their parents agree.
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That's at the heart of the issue though - the parent's aren't consenting. The top 10 books are ones that were made available to kids without their parents knowledge or permission in middle school and high school libraries, or were placed in children and youth sections in public libraries.

Do you genuinely think that pornographic materials should be provided to kids by public schools?
 
Emily's Cat said:
That's at the heart of the issue though - the parent's aren't consenting. The top 10 books are ones that were made available to kids without their parents knowledge or permission in middle school and high school libraries, or were placed in children and youth sections in public libraries.

Do you genuinely think that pornographic materials should be provided to kids by public schools?
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ONLY if their parents think its ok.
 
Emily's Cat said:
How do you know that they're racists in the first place?
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Because they wave English flags, and object to tens of thousands of illegal migrants coming across the channel by the boat load being given free accommodation in hotels as well as free iPhones, iPads and PlayStation consoles. These illigal migrants also get free dental care, free medical care, free prescriptions, eye-tests & glasses or contact lenses, free travel to medical treatment and free sports tickets.

Additionally, they get a £50 weekly allowance and free, taxpayer funded legal aid so that they can fight deportation.

Nice work if you can get it.
 
smartcooky said:
Because they wave English flags, and object to tens of thousands of illegal migrants coming across the channel by the boat load being given free accommodation in hotels as well as free iPhones, iPads and PlayStation consoles. These illigal migrants also get free dental care, free medical care, free prescriptions, eye-tests & glasses or contact lenses, free travel to medical treatment and free sports tickets.

Additionally, they get a £50 weekly allowance and free, taxpayer funded legal aid so that they can fight deportation.

Nice work if you can get it.
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Free sports tickets??

Are these people seeking refugee status and asylum?
 
smartcooky said:
OK Neville Nitpicker, so the Bell is a three star hotel not a four star... Whoopady Doo.

Still doesn't detract from my point. You progressives love to judge people's motives by pre-judging the people.
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It may have been a three star hotel. Converted to a hostel for asylum seekers, with no hotel services, no room service, etc, it can no longer be called a hotel, and has no stars.

Referring to it as a 'three star hotel' plays into the hands of the right wing parties trying to stir up unrest by painting a picture of the residents living a life of luxury.
 
zooterkin said:
It may have been a three star hotel. Converted to a hostel for asylum seekers, with no hotel services, no room service, etc, it can no longer be called a hotel, and has no stars.

Referring to it as a 'three star hotel' plays into the hands of the right wing parties trying to stir up unrest by painting a picture of the residents living a life of luxury.
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Seems to be the way that some posters here would like to play it. Telling porkies to support bigotry.
 
zooterkin said:
It may have been a three star hotel. Converted to a hostel for asylum seekers, with no hotel services, no room service, etc, it can no longer be called a hotel, and has no stars.

Referring to it as a 'three star hotel' plays into the hands of the right wing parties trying to stir up unrest by painting a picture of the residents living a life of luxury.
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Not to mention, multiple occupancy rooms and catering contracted out to the lowest bidder. And before anyone starts crying about 'well at least they get fed' they are barred, by law, from working until their case has been decided. If there isn't catering at the accommodation then the asylum seeker gets £50/week for food and all their other needs, otherwise it's £9.


www.theguardian.com

A day in the life of an asylum hotel: inside the UK’s most controversial accommodation

The media often stigmatises asylum hotels – and they are sometimes physically attacked too. But behind closed doors are people who dream of work, wheels, security and the simple freedom to choose what they eat
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

www.refugee-action.org.uk

Heartbreak Hotels

These hotels are no longer places where people take a break, they are places where people seeking asylum are being broken.
www.refugee-action.org.uk www.refugee-action.org.uk
 
smartcooky said:
OK Neville Nitpicker, so the Bell is a three star hotel not a four star... Whoopady Doo.

Still doesn't detract from my point. You progressives love to judge people's motives by pre-judging the people.
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What on earth is a progressive?
 
zooterkin said:
It may have been a three star hotel. Converted to a hostel for asylum seekers, with no hotel services, no room service, etc, it can no longer be called a hotel, and has no stars.

Referring to it as a 'three star hotel' plays into the hands of the right wing parties trying to stir up unrest by painting a picture of the residents living a life of luxury.
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Many are 4 to a room - double bunk beds, just like all the 3 star hotels I’ve stayed in over the years.
 
Hercules56 said:
Just because the flag is waved by a racist, doesn't make the flag racist.
Why is that hard for you to understand?

If a Nazi waves a picture of a hamburger, does that make hamburgers racist?
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You do know that is a restatement of of what I posted?
 
smartcooky said:
Because they wave English flags, and object to tens of thousands of illegal migrants coming across the channel by the boat load being given free accommodation in hotels as well as free iPhones, iPads and PlayStation consoles. These illigal migrants also get free dental care, free medical care, free prescriptions, eye-tests & glasses or contact lenses, free travel to medical treatment and free sports tickets.

Additionally, they get a £50 weekly allowance and free, taxpayer funded legal aid so that they can fight deportation.

Nice work if you can get it.
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Most of the above is untrue. The true bits are the healthcare.
 
Hercules56 said:
ONLY if their parents think its ok.
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Do you think it's reasonable to expect that all parents would be in unanimous agreement on this issue?

I tend to think this is a topic where it's far more responsible for public entities to not provide sexually explicit books to kids. If the parents are okay with their kids reading it, the parents can check it out of a library or order the book themselves, and hand it to their kid.
 
Darat said:
Who
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The people you've decided are using your nation's flag for racist reasons.

Darat said:
But apparently having a flag on your door or your car or your backpack is seen as racism.
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No it isn't, it's seen as racism when it is being used by racists to promote their racism.
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If it's only seen as racism when it's being used by racists to promote their racism... how do you know they're racists in the first place?
 
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