Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed

[SteveAitch]

In fairness they're all notoriously difficult to convey in a text only format and the satire was very on point (indeed within the range of 'serious' comments on other platforms.

Howzabout a new rule that says all sarcastic/satirical post must be in Comic Sans?

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Howzabout a new rule that says all sarcastic/satirical post must be in Comic Sans?

Nah, I'd mix it up with my resume.

 

[dann]

This is exclusively for people who understand German, but if you aren't already familiar with meme culture, the Alt-Right scene and the Groyper ◊◊◊◊, it's a pretty good introduction since it doesn't assume that the audience knows anything at all about it.
Kirk Attentäter ein Nazi? So radikalisierte sich Tyler Robinson - Alt-Right, Memes & Groyper (Sascha Pallenberg on YouTube, Sep 13, 2025 - 34:15 min.)
Apparently, photos of Tyler Robinson are being photo-shopped to make it seem as if he's wearing Harris-Walz T-shirts!!! (--> 29:35)

ETA: Also here:

Drew on X, Sep 13, 2025
Your team. The evidence is clear

 

[Walter]

Here we have a group of skeptics. Reasoning, logical, objective, rational, scientific thinkers attempting to find justification for the murder of another human. This could easily be the basis for a doctoral thesis in psychology or philosophy or ethics at Harvard or Oxford.

I will never forget when an angry group of people found justification for the murder of a hundred or so humans in France several years ago. I immediately wrote an email to a customer based in Paris expressing my concern. He and his family were fortunately not in the city that day. And who can forget the horrible crime committed by those employees of a newspaper. Satire was the crime.

Please. Try to avoid making a rational, objective, reasoning and scientific distinction between those events and what happened in Utah.

 

[zooterkin]

Here we have a group of skeptics. Reasoning, logical, objective, rational, scientific thinkers attempting to find justification for the murder of another human.

Where is this place you're talking about?

 

[Darat]

Here we have a group of skeptics. Reasoning, logical, objective, rational, scientific thinkers
attempting to find justification for the murder of another human. This could easily be the basis for a doctoral thesis in psychology or philosophy or ethics at Harvard or Oxford.

I will never forget when an angry group of people found justification for the murder of a hundred or so humans in France several years ago. I immediately wrote an email to a customer based in Paris expressing my concern. He and his family were fortunately not in the city that day. And who can forget the horrible crime committed by those employees of a newspaper. Satire was the crime.

Please. Try to avoid making a rational, objective, reasoning and scientific distinction between those events and what happened in Utah.

There hasn't been a single member doing that here. Have you posted this on the wrong forum?

 

[dirtywick]

there's so many layers of dishonesty in that post, but i think the worst part is the persistent need to victimize themselves even when it's not true. nobody finding justification for the murder? well, you still want to feel that feeling of being the victim, so just lie. it's a little white lie, who cares? it makes you feel good, you're being persecuted by the mean lefties. they should feel as upset as you're pretending to feel, what monsters.

 

[johnny karate]

there's so many layers of dishonesty in that post, but i think the worst part is the persistent need to victimize themselves even when it's not true. nobody finding justification for the murder? well, you still want to feel that feeling of being the victim, so just lie. it's a little white lie, who cares? it makes you feel good, you're being persecuted by the mean lefties. they should feel as upset as you're pretending to feel, what monsters.

More and more, the right’s entire belief system is based on delusion.

 

[dann]

It always was! It has just become a little more conspicuous recently.

 

[Dr.Sid]

This is exclusively for people who understand German, but if you aren't already familiar with meme culture, the Alt-Right scene and the Groyper ◊◊◊◊, it's a pretty good introduction since it doesn't assume that the audience knows anything at all about it.
Kirk Attentäter ein Nazi? So radikalisierte sich Tyler Robinson - Alt-Right, Memes & Groyper (Sascha Pallenberg on YouTube, Sep 13, 2025 - 34:15 min.)
Apparently, photos of Tyler Robinson are being photo-shopped to make it seem as if he's wearing Harris-Walz T-shirts!!! (--> 29:35)

ETA: Also here:

I've seen the same photo with red Trump shirt. These are insanely simple these days with AI.

 

[Carrot Flower King]

Here we have a group of skeptics. Reasoning, logical, objective, rational, scientific thinkers attempting to find justification for the murder of another human. This could easily be the basis for a doctoral thesis in psychology or philosophy or ethics at Harvard or Oxford.

I will never forget when an angry group of people found justification for the murder of a hundred or so humans in France several years ago. I immediately wrote an email to a customer based in Paris expressing my concern. He and his family were fortunately not in the city that day. And who can forget the horrible crime committed by those employees of a newspaper. Satire was the crime.

Please. Try to avoid making a rational, objective, reasoning and scientific distinction between those events and what happened in Utah.

You mean pointing out how Kirk would have approved of his own shooting as collateral damage for maintaining Second Amendment rights?

Which is absolutely just the same as Charlie Hebdo's cartoons...Yeah completely the same thing...

 

[AmyStrange]

Here we have a group of skeptics. Reasoning, logical, objective, rational, scientific thinkers attempting to find justification for the murder of another human. This could easily be the basis for a doctoral thesis in psychology or philosophy or ethics at Harvard or Oxford.

I will never forget when an angry group of people found justification for the murder of a hundred or so humans in France several years ago. I immediately wrote an email to a customer based in Paris expressing my concern. He and his family were fortunately not in the city that day. And who can forget the horrible crime committed by those employees of a newspaper. Satire was the crime.

Please. Try to avoid making a rational, objective, reasoning and scientific distinction between those events and what happened in Utah.

Well, there is the time I was reading an article from Fox Entertainment (the home of suckers and losers) about the planned attack on a Taylor Swift concert in Europe, and in the comment section, there were a bunch of sick POS who were cheering on the terrorist.

I've never read anything even close to that here.

 

[Brainster]

So let me get this straight; this MAGA, groyper-type is in love with a transwoman? Must have been a temporary situation while he waited for his trad-wife to appear.

 

[Resume]

Here we have a group of skeptics. Reasoning, logical, objective, rational, scientific thinkers attempting to find justification for the murder of another human.

No.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

It's a key aspect of current US Conservatism: trying to understand something is necessarily the same as making a value judgement, hence understanding itself must be avoided if at all possible. Knowledge is never a Good in itself.

 

[dann]

So let me get this straight; this MAGA, groyper-type is in love with a transwoman? Must have been a temporary situation while he waited for his trad-wife to appear.

If I have understood it correctly, they were more than two young people sharing a flat. More has then been made of it than that.
But, of course, if they are all Mormons ...

 

[SteveAitch]

Ho hum, well, we all know what Friedrich Schiller said, ""Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain.""

 

[dann]

Here we have a group of skeptics. Reasoning, logical, objective, rational, scientific thinkers attempting to find justification for the murder of another human.

No, no, here we have a group of skeptics trying to find out what the hell happened and a couple of people trying to pin it on Antifa, the Radical Left, whatever.

 

[zooterkin]

So let me get this straight; this MAGA, groyper-type is in love with a transwoman? Must have been a temporary situation while he waited for his trad-wife to appear.

Do you have a source for that?

I saw a post (equally reliable, obviously) that said that the person was the owner of the flat that the shooter was sharing, and had been pictured in a furry onesie while playing computer games. No indication of being trans, nor of a relationship closer than landlord and tenant.

 

[8enotto]

I occasionally watched clips from a few Kirk college events. They are broken up into him debating the most clueless rainbow colored hair ditzies. Usually about things not related to guns but actually moral/trans issues.
He played hard on the complete lack of research they did.
Moralizing when your bible is held to a bat by barbed wire is one thing, but he usually kept it to the authority a bible carried for himself.

I agreed with a select few views he held on family issues but couldn't agree to his why a lot. Most things he was just beating a Christian right's drum that would open a door to bigger and uglier issues in the current climate in the US.

He was no hero. He is no martyr. He just ticked off the wrong psycho.