Merged Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event. / Charlie Kirk Shot And Killed

Emily's Cat said:
Between this and Mangione, the hype is making political and ideological assassinations social acceptable.
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Trying to remember who recently posted this......It might have been post 504 above.... :

"You do realize that blanket statements such as yours are usually (if not always) prevaricated fabrications (IOW doublethink lies)?"
 
The hard-right is doing a u-turn on the rush to judgment now that information is coming out that the shooter was a Nick Fuentes follower.

The Civil War has been cancelled but please retain your ticket stub. You will be able to use it the next time the right threatens mass vengeance against the left. See y'all in October.
 
Interesting (and yes, a very sad) bit of news:

US colleges experiencing epidemic of swatting calls after shooting of Charlie Kirk

College campuses across America are experiencing an epidemic of hoax calls about bogus shootings and other emergencies following the shooting death of Charlie Kirk this week.

These calls -- known as swatting -- panicked at least a dozen schools as police rush to campuses, chasing phantom threats with many of them being racially motivated and targeting historically Black colleges and universities...

(SNIP)
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Here's the MAGA get out clause.

  • Robinson was registered to vote in 2021 as "unaffiliated" with any political party, according to records seen by the BBC
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They can claim he wasn't on the Right, obviously a deranged Left Wing extremist.
 
Not anyone famous but a typical view from the Right in the UK.

Anthony O'Neill
@AnthonyAinsdale

The BBC said Charlie Kirk had extreme views and Sky say he was right wing. Neither are true. He just had traditional conservative views. BBC & Sky are part of the problem. The left are deranged.
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jimbob said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1966538966401765880

Interesting. Robinson might actually have been alt right who thought Kirk was FINO
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I'm not sure that I get this:
Nick Fuentes and his Groypers are some kind of Nazis, and yet it says, "Catch this fascist" on one of the bullets. Seems strange.
IIRC, Fuentes recently seemed to turn against Trump when he asked MAGA to stop talking about the Epstein files.
Was this what caused the enmity between Fuentes and Kirk? Or is it older than that?
"If you are reading this you are gay" doesn't sound as if it's coming from somebody who is in line with LGBTQ+.
What is the stance of the Groypers on this?
 
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Fuentes did the logical thing and dumped Trump over Epstein, correctly reasoning that Trump's days are numbered either way and he has all the time in the world.

Kirk as a "moderate" (heavy quotation marks) is perhaps the greatest threat to the accelerationist in that he might cause the civil war tabula rasa to be replaced by a gradual shift to the Christian Right.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Fuentes did the logical thing and dumped Trump over Epstein, correctly reasoning that Trump's days are numbered either way and he has all the time in the world.

Kirk as a "moderate" (heavy quotation marks) is perhaps the greatest threat to the accelerationist in that he might cause the civil war tabula rasa to be replaced by a gradual shift to the Christian Right.
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Thanks!

That makes a kind of sense.
However, I'm not sure how much logic plays into it. It could just be a question of tactics and opportunism.
I am also not sure that Trump's days are numbered because of the Epstein files since logic usually has very little to do with decisions made by MAGA adherents.
 
Here is the empathetic, reasonable, moderate Kirk talking about Pelosi's husband.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1965989121190670594

ETA: Someone around here is complaining about divisive rhetoric . . . the above (and worse) was Charlie Kirk, all day, every day. Are we supposed to ignore it for the sake of . . . of what, exactly? The rwnj's want to put up statues to the man, they want this person to lie in state in the Rotunda; idiots like Schneider compare him to Jefferson and Madison and Franklin --well, he might have a point there, but not the one he intended-- yet no one in the legacy media seriously questions this idiocy. Pointing out Kirk's overt bigotry isn't divisive; it's reality, it's history, though not that which the current right wing want's the public to accept.
 
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