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Ed Miracle or Statistic?

Gord_in_Toronto

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There's a new saint ready to be minted by the Roman Catholic Church.

Italian teenager Carlo Acutis to become first millennial Catholic saint after second miracle attributed to him

An Italian teenager who was informally known as "God's Influencer" for using his computer skills to spread the Catholic faith is set to become the first saint of the millennial generation, the Vatican announced Thursday.

Carlo Acutis died of leukemia in 2006 at the age of 15. Born in London, he grew up in Milan where he managed the website for his parish and later a Vatican-based academy. He also used his computer skills to create an online database of Eucharistic miracles around the world.

An image of 15-year-old Carlo Acutis, an Italian boy who died in 2006 of leukemia, is seen during his beatification ceremony celebrated by Cardinal Agostino Vallini, center, in the St. Francis Basilica, in Assisi, Italy, Saturday, Oct. 10, 2020. Gregorio Borgia / AP

The teenager was beatified — the first step toward sainthood — in 2020 after one miracle was attributed to him. In that miracle, Acutis is credited with healing a Brazilian child of a congenital disease affecting his pancreas.
On Thursday, Pope Francis attributed a second miracle to Acutis during a meeting with the head of the Vatican's saint-making department, Cardinal Marcello Semararo.

The second miracle involved the healing of a university student in Florence who had a brain bleed after suffering head trauma, CBS News partner BBC News reported.

The attribution of a second miracle means Acutis can be elevated to sainthood, but the Vatican did not say when this would happen.

Acutis died in Monza, Italy. His body was moved to Assisi a year after his death and is on full display alongside other relics linked to him. He was also named a patron of last year's World Youth Day in Lisbon because of his "important role in evangelization through the internet," organizers of the event said at the time, Reuters reported.
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Given the number who were likely prayed for (sitechecker.pro reports a current "Organic Traffic" number for his prime website of 63826.40 per month, so it must have been quite a few), I suggest Spontaneous Remission which is known to occur in a small number of cases for a variety of medical conditions might be just as good an explanation.

Meanwhile no missing limbs have been restored at Lourdes. :(
 
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Back in the days of Pope Polish I, there'd have been saints sprouting up from 01/01/2001. Dozens by now. Hundreds. Every one a money-maker, too.

Howsomever, the Vatican has a monopoly on saintology, and we peons hafta take what we get. Wasn't always that way. Primitive Christians (before, say, 1492 or thereabouts; I'm no church historian) could make a saint by acclamation! A saint didn't even have to be dead!
 
It's an obvious PR move. Once you open the door to posthumous miracles, then just wait long enough and someone will say "Yeah, my back pain cleared up, and I think it was the guy that did it from beyond the grave." When the field is that wide open, then you can practically write the press report like you're writing a script treatment.
 
To be accurate, the miracles are required to be posthumous. The allegedly miraculous occurrence has to take place following the alleged saint's mortal demise. Miracle 1 gets you to beatification. Miracle 2—which has to occur after beatification—gets you on the ballot for sainthood. If the purported miracle is medical in nature, Vatican doctors swoop in to confirm there was no proper medical cause. And yes, the whole thing smacks of being inherently untestable.

I used to live in Italy. I'm fairly certain that boys up in their bedrooms on the computer in Italy weren't cataloguing Marian apparitions and Eucharistic miracles.

However, the prototype of my company was for a time based in San Carlos, California. So a Saint Carlo as the patron saint of messing around on computers is probably not that insurmountable.
 
JayUtah said:
To be accurate, the miracles are required to be posthumous.
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A five-year-old is expected to have a long life ahead of him with plenty of opportunities to embarrass the church if they make him a saint at this point.
So post-humous it is, just to be on the safe side.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
There's a new saint ready to be minted by the Roman Catholic Church.

Italian teenager Carlo Acutis to become first millennial Catholic saint after second miracle attributed to him



Given the number who were likely prayed for (sitechecker.pro reports a current "Organic Traffic" number for his prime website of 63826.40 per month, so it must have been quite a few), I suggest Spontaneous Remission which is known to occur in a small number of cases for a variety of medical conditions might be just as good an explanation.

Meanwhile no missing limbs have been restored at Lourdes. :(
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False attribution. Giving credit for the work doctors, nurses and other healthcare professionals have done to a dead boy who had no way to cure the alleged injury.

It's very interesting looking at the "miracles" offered up to "prove" newly minted catholic saints since Christopher Hitchens disproved the one attributed to Theresa of Calcutta. They've become increasingly vague about the person cured, where they were from and what they were cured of. The church knows the whole sainthood process is a tissue of lies and are afraid the laity will find out.
 
sackett said:
Back in the days of Pope Polish I, there'd have been saints sprouting up from 01/01/2001. Dozens by now. Hundreds. Every one a money-maker, too.

Howsomever, the Vatican has a monopoly on saintology, and we peons hafta take what we get. Wasn't always that way. Primitive Christians (before, say, 1492 or thereabouts; I'm no church historian) could make a saint by acclamation! A saint didn't even have to be dead!
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Or real!
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
There's a new saint ready to be minted by the Roman Catholic Church.

Italian teenager Carlo Acutis to become first millennial Catholic saint after second miracle attributed to him



Given the number who were likely prayed for (sitechecker.pro reports a current "Organic Traffic" number for his prime website of 63826.40 per month, so it must have been quite a few), I suggest Spontaneous Remission which is known to occur in a small number of cases for a variety of medical conditions might be just as good an explanation.

Meanwhile no missing limbs have been restored at Lourdes. :(
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And more people have died travelling to and from.
 
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