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The sinking of MS Estonia: Case Reopened Part VII

Vixen said:
I think it's plausible because Braidwood, an explosives expert and at arm's length from the ship's crew and interested nations, being from the British Royal Navy and a respected trainer/lecturer, recognised what he identified as an explosive attached to one side of the bow, that had failed to ignite. You recall teams of British and Irish divers went in to survey the vessel. Jutta Rabe, too, is a serious journalist and isn't going to get involved in fake news.
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Debunked nonsense.
 
Mojo said:
Do you have a citation for that?
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Herewith:

Andi Meister (born November 17, 1938 in Lüganus ) is an Estonian engineer and politician.

1962, . The Master graduated from the Tallinn Polytechnic Institute as a traffic and bridge construction engineer. Later he worked for the Kohtla-Järve Road Administration and then for the Ministry of Road Transport and Roads of the Estonian SSR .

The master joined the Estonian independence movement, he was a member of the ERSP . In 1990 - in 1992 , he headed the Ministry of Transport and Communications, the Public Relations Department and then worked for a short time in the Estonian State Chancellery, while the Prime Minister Tiit Vahi support [1] .

In 1992 - 1994, was a champion of Mart Laar's first government transport and communications minister, and continued in the same office also Andres Tarand government ( 1994, - 1995, ).

On September 28, 1994 , the Estonia disaster occurred and after the accident, Meister was appointed head of the Estonian- Finnish - Swedish commission of inquiry; he held this position until 1996 . until. Following his resignation, he published in 1997 . in the book "Unfinished Logbook: Mayday Estonia III", which contains his personal views and thoughts on the shipwreck.

2009 . In 1987 , Meister published the novel "Light in a Non - Existent Window", the manuscript of which was completed in 1987 . for the year. [2] The Master has also studied the history of the Lüganus region.
 
Vixen said:
Andi Meister has died. He was on the JAIC for Estonia but left before the report was signed off:


As I recall, Meister wrote the Pilot's Log Book, or similar title, in which it is claimed a list[_?] of missing Estonian crew were part of helicopter log.
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Mojo said:
Do you have a citation for that?
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Vixen said:
Herewith:

Andi Meister (born November 17, 1938 in Lüganus ) is an Estonian engineer and politician.

1962, . The Master graduated from the Tallinn Polytechnic Institute as a traffic and bridge construction engineer. Later he worked for the Kohtla-Järve Road Administration and then for the Ministry of Road Transport and Roads of the Estonian SSR .

The master joined the Estonian independence movement, he was a member of the ERSP . In 1990 - in 1992 , he headed the Ministry of Transport and Communications, the Public Relations Department and then worked for a short time in the Estonian State Chancellery, while the Prime Minister Tiit Vahi support [1] .

In 1992 - 1994, was a champion of Mart Laar's first government transport and communications minister, and continued in the same office also Andres Tarand government ( 1994, - 1995, ).

On September 28, 1994 , the Estonia disaster occurred and after the accident, Meister was appointed head of the Estonian- Finnish - Swedish commission of inquiry; he held this position until 1996 . until. Following his resignation, he published in 1997 . in the book "Unfinished Logbook: Mayday Estonia III", which contains his personal views and thoughts on the shipwreck.

2009 . In 1987 , Meister published the novel "Light in a Non - Existent Window", the manuscript of which was completed in 1987 . for the year. [2] The Master has also studied the history of the Lüganus region.
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You're very bad at this. You were asked for a citation for Meister's claim that there was a list of missing Estonian crew as part of some helicopter log. What you quoted does not corroborate your claim at all, it says absolutely *nothing* about a list of missing Estonian crew on a helicopter flight log, it just refers in passing to the book he wrote.

Do you deliberately avoid answering direct questions or are your communication skills really this bad?
 
JesseCuster said:
You're very bad at this. You were asked for a citation for Meister's claim that there was a list of missing Estonian crew as part of some helicopter log. What you quoted does not corroborate your claim at all, it says absolutely *nothing* about a list of missing Estonian crew on a helicopter flight log, it just refers in passing to the book he wrote.

Do you deliberately avoid answering direct questions or are your communication skills really this bad?
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Vixen throws out a mish-mash of junk, purely in order to gain and keep attention. Rinse + repeat of the same junk is just fine, in Vixen-world.
 
Vixen said:
As I have not committed any wrongdoing, the treatment I receive as if I am a wrongdoer, I can only imagine is to do with a communication issue.
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It was never about wrongdoing, it was only ever about eagerly and stubbornly championing idiotic and contradictory nonsense. If you reckon that's a communication issue maybe have a think about how to communicate better.
 
Vixen said:
No. It was about a communication gap. I was discussing the two 'disappeared' Egyptian guys but you seem to see things more personally. How would I know what your beliefs are.
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The two Egyptian "guys" were not "disappeared" by Sweden. They were deported by Sweden - a move that was subsequently deemed unlawful on the grounds that Sweden should have known there was a significant chance of the two men being abused/tortured by the Egyptian State upon their forced return to Egypt.

You been told this explicitly several times by now - including, amusingly, by the very evidence that you present as if it's demonstrative of your warped and incorrect position on this matter. Please don't waste any more of our time on it.
 
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Vixen said:
Herewith:

Andi Meister (born November 17, 1938 in Lüganus ) is an Estonian engineer and politician.

1962, . The Master graduated from the Tallinn Polytechnic Institute as a traffic and bridge construction engineer. Later he worked for the Kohtla-Järve Road Administration and then for the Ministry of Road Transport and Roads of the Estonian SSR .

The master joined the Estonian independence movement, he was a member of the ERSP . In 1990 - in 1992 , he headed the Ministry of Transport and Communications, the Public Relations Department and then worked for a short time in the Estonian State Chancellery, while the Prime Minister Tiit Vahi support [1] .

In 1992 - 1994, was a champion of Mart Laar's first government transport and communications minister, and continued in the same office also Andres Tarand government ( 1994, - 1995, ).

On September 28, 1994 , the Estonia disaster occurred and after the accident, Meister was appointed head of the Estonian- Finnish - Swedish commission of inquiry; he held this position until 1996 . until. Following his resignation, he published in 1997 . in the book "Unfinished Logbook: Mayday Estonia III", which contains his personal views and thoughts on the shipwreck.

2009 . In 1987 , Meister published the novel "Light in a Non - Existent Window", the manuscript of which was completed in 1987 . for the year. [2] The Master has also studied the history of the Lüganus region.
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An unattributed piece of text that doesn't support your claim. Even if it is in italics.
 
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