Trump's Second Term

Gulliver Foyle said:
I can see Stolen Valour Pete's future from all the way back here. He's going to address a group of National Guards at some point in the future and one of them, disgruntled at the months of being shuttled hither and tither, sleeping on floors, suffering the opprobium of their fellow citizens and all for no compensation, gives him the full metal jacket treatment.
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Would never happen IMO.
 
Garrison said:
Look behind you and squint hard, that vanishing speck on the horizon is the point of no return. Some city or state is going to refuse to co-operate and that will be that for the old USA.
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USA survied one Civil War.
A Civil War is preferable to acceptance of tyranny. ,,Unless you are a pure pacifist.
And I am no pacifist.
 
shemp said:
How long until innocent kids get shot dead in the streets for having the wrong skin color?
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Come on, shemp, if they get shot they could hardly have been innocent - innocent people would never get shot by somone upholding the law, would they? That would be illegal, and Trump is all about law and order. He has said so himself
 
Andy_Ross said:
Cleaning the forests again

Q: Could your recent dustups with Newsom impact wildfire relief?

TRUMP: Sure, maybe. He shouldn't have fires like that. You clean the floor of your forest and you won't have any forest fires.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1935344132282593647
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I said long ago: This is just another of those pachinko balls that keep tinkling down through his empty head.
 
Andy_Ross said:
INGRAHAM: Will the National Guard be detaining Americans on American soil?

PETE HEGSETH: Until title 32, which is the authorization they'll be using, they have broad latitude ... if you take a shot at them, there will be a consequence

https://twitter.com/x/status/1955045240261210223
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What a ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ dumbass. I'm not even American, and 0.03 seconds later, here is this on Wiki:
Under Title 32, National Guard remains under control of the state but is funded by the federal government.
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So he is very, VERY wrong.
 
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Helen said:
Come on, shemp, if they get shot they could hardly have been innocent - innocent people would never get shot by somone upholding the law, would they? That would be illegal, and Trump is all about law and order. He has said so himself
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It should be the responsibility of the people being shot to ensure that their behaviour is consistent with some specific crime, so that police time is not wasted inventing reasons for having shot them.

See, for example, R v Haddock (1935) Herbert's Uncommon Law 24 at 26, per Light LCJ:
It is a principle of English law that a person who appears in a police court has done something undesirable, and citizens who take it upon themselves to do unusual actions which attract the attention of the police should be careful to bring these actions into one of the recognized categories of crimes and offences, for it is intolerable that the police should be put to the pains of inventing reasons for finding them undesirable.
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shemp said:
I didn't kill Epstein, but I sure don't feel the need to call everyone and tell them I didn't. Neither do all the other people who didn't kill Epstein. But somebody sure does. Methinks he protests too much.
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I didn't kill Epstien and neither did my wife...
 
Andy_Ross said:
Trump: "If you so much as touch or even think about destroying a statue or monument in Washington DC you go to jail for 10 years."
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That's going to be rough on people who do things like make rubbings of friends' or family members' names on the Vietnam War Memorial.
It's almost like he didn't give any thought to what he was saying.
 
I’ve just watched a show on Australian TVs 4Corners called “Trump vs the Law”. It was made in the US and I will try to find out by whom.

Anyway, it outlined Trump’s many violations, with toadies like Bannon, Tucker Carlson,
Yoo and others in support of his full immunity. But it also highlighted how many conservative lawyers and even Trump appointed officials have resigned in protest. This might be the grain that turns into an avalanche.

In times like this, hope is important.

ETA the show also highlighted the unforgivable silence of the Congress. The fear Trump is engendering may be his biggest legacy.
 
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Jack by the hedge said:
Ghettos. His plan for non-whites in Texas is ghettos.
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His "othering" is subtle but powerful and comes down to the use of one word, - he said:

What we want to do is to draw districts that give those hispanics and African-Americans in the state of Texas the ability to elect their candidate of their choice.

Remove that word and the entire tone changes.

What we want to do is to draw districts that give hispanics and African-Americans in the state of Texas the ability to elect their candidate of their choice.
 
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