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Is Jesus's "this generation will certainly not pass" valid grounds for scepticism?

There is no good reason to believe he(Paul) was in contact with the person who later compiled the gospel of Matthew.
There is speculation, but I wouldn't give it a 'probably'.
Paul didn't seem to have a problem being specific about other apostles he had contact with.

That particular narrative does not appear in any of the other gospels.

Does Paul refer to that particular narrative? I can't seem to find where he does, but stand to be corrected.
 
Skeptical Greg said:
There is no good reason to believe he(Paul) was in contact with the person who later compiled the gospel of Matthew.
There is speculation, but I wouldn't give it a 'probably'.
Paul didn't seem to have a problem being specific about other apostles he had contact with.

That particular narrative does not appear in any of the other gospels.

Does Paul refer to that particular narrative? I can't seem to find where he does, but stand to be corrected.
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Matthew was understood by early scholars to have been written by the apostle Matthew. I'm aware that modern scholars doubt this (though they admit that the apostle may have been a source).

Paul claims to have met all the apostles.

I guess we are drifting off topic.
 
Poem said:
Paul claims to have met all the apostles.
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Do you have a cite for that?
Poem said:
I guess we are drifting off topic.
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I think the topic has been exhausted.

It keeps getting resurrected, and you keep responding.

You made a claim that "..he probably would have know about Matthew 18:1-5" .

So instead of " probably ", perhaps " I would guess. " would leave less room for argument.

I think of using " probably " when I have some information to explain further.
 
Poem said:
Matthew was understood by early scholars to have been written by the apostle Matthew. I'm aware that modern scholars doubt this (though they admit that the apostle may have been a source).

Paul claims to have met all the apostles.

I guess we are drifting off topic.
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Matthew is now broadly understood to have been written somewhere around CE 70-85. Acts was probably written around CE80-90. Whoever first wrote it down might have known the apostle Matthew's great grandchildren.

How much about your great grandfather can you tell me?
 
arthwollipot said:
Matthew is now broadly understood to have been written somewhere around CE 70-85. Acts was probably written around CE80-90. Whoever first wrote it down might have known the apostle Matthew's great grandchildren.

How much about your great grandfather can you tell me?
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I doubt that classical communities suffered from the same anomie as postmodern communities.

Just because our contemporaries struggle to find meaning and connection in a culture that shatters generational family ties, doesn't mean the ancients had the same problem.

I get it though. Nowadays family doesn't count unless it's found family. Your error is understandable.
 
For the record, I have a great family. Tomorrow night I'm attending my parents' 60th wedding anniversary party, at the restaurant where my nephew is the head chef. I still don't know a lot about my great grandfather.
 
arthwollipot said:
Matthew is now broadly understood to have been written somewhere around CE 70-85. Acts was probably written around CE80-90. Whoever first wrote it down might have known the apostle Matthew's great grandchildren.

How much about your great grandfather can you tell me?
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ISF member arthollipot: playing the excruciatingly long game of data mining.
 
Someone care to tell us what last few posts are all about. V. confused.
 
theprestige said:
I doubt that classical communities suffered from the same anomie as postmodern communities.

Just because our contemporaries struggle to find meaning and connection in a culture that shatters generational family ties, doesn't mean the ancients had the same problem.

I get it though. Nowadays family doesn't count unless it's found family. Your error is understandable.
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Could you explain please?
 
Poem said:
Matthew was understood by early scholars to have been written by the apostle Matthew. I'm aware that modern scholars doubt this (though they admit that the apostle may have been a source).

Paul claims to have met all the apostles.

I guess we are drifting off topic.
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Which Paul? There are at least four writers of the Pauline epistles, the earliest of which are identifed (relatively tentatively) as genuine Paul.
 
theprestige said:
I doubt that classical communities suffered from the same anomie as postmodern communities.

Just because our contemporaries struggle to find meaning and connection in a culture that shatters generational family ties, doesn't mean the ancients had the same problem.

I get it though. Nowadays family doesn't count unless it's found family. Your error is understandable.
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Do they and who are they?
 
theprestige said:
I doubt that classical communities suffered from the same anomie as postmodern communities.
Just because our contemporaries struggle to find meaning and connection in a culture that shatters generational family ties, doesn't mean the ancients had the same problem.

I get it though. Nowadays family doesn't count unless it's found family. Your error is understandable.
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No it doesn't. I agree. But there is also no reason to believe they didn't.
 
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