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Cuomo defeated in NYC Democratic Mayoral Primary

Hercules56 said:
Seriously, its really not that big a deal, I dont see why folks are having such a cow over this.

Move on people.
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Checking what some people think is the wrong box/combination of boxes on a confusing (incomprehensible to most outside the US) form when you're 17 is not a big deal either, so why are you having such a cow over that?

Some people just have bug bears about things other people don't have a problem with. Mine's misplaced apostrophes.
 
Pixel42 said:
Checking what some people think is the wrong box/combination of boxes on a confusing (incomprehensible to most outside the US) form when you're 17 is not a big deal either, so why are you having such a cow over that?

Some people just have bug bears about things other people don't have a problem with. Mine's misplaced apostrophes.
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It's a twofer for "centreists" (absolutely not MAGAites).

Firstly they hate anything that smacks of DEI so any application process which asks for any kind of demographic information, presumably to deny a white, Christian, man their rightful place, is an attack on America and American values. By extension, anyone who might have benefited from having provided this information is simply a DEI "hire" and their subsequent achievements can be discounted as a result.

Secondly, they are desperately looking for a reason not to support the Democratic Party candidate. For sure they could simply state their preference for the Republican candidate but that would break the veneer of centreism. Instead they look for any small perceived infraction (such as ticking a box on a college application decades ago) which allows them to discount that candidate and instead choose the candidate belonging to the part whose figurehead is an adjudged rapist and convicted felon. The box ticking perceived infraction is all the sweeter because it hints at impropriety in the "DEI" process - invalidating it even further.

All of the above simply IMO obvs.
 
The Don said:
It's a twofer for "centreists" (absolutely not MAGAites).

Firstly they hate anything that smacks of DEI so any application process which asks for any kind of demographic information, presumably to deny a white, Christian, man their rightful place, is an attack on America and American values. By extension, anyone who might have benefited from having provided this information is simply a DEI "hire" and their subsequent achievements can be discounted as a result.

Secondly, they are desperately looking for a reason not to support the Democratic Party candidate. For sure they could simply state their preference for the Republican candidate but that would break the veneer of centreism. Instead they look for any small perceived infraction (such as ticking a box on a college application decades ago) which allows them to discount that candidate and instead choose the candidate belonging to the part whose figurehead is an adjudged rapist and convicted felon. The box ticking perceived infraction is all the sweeter because it hints at impropriety in the "DEI" process - invalidating it even further.

All of the above simply IMO obvs.
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Obvs.
 
it's a common, and all-too-human thing: you decided to dislike something/someone, no time needed for that at all.
What takes time is to figure out a reason why you do that doesn't make you look like a ◊◊◊◊◊◊ douchebag but someone with something like a coherent arguement.
 
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I think the issue of spelling his name and his racial identity has gotten enough attention. Let's move on.
 
So what do you think the selection of Zohran Mamdani as the democrat canditate for Mayor of NYC says about the diametrically opposed political choices on offer come election time.
Is there any lesson to be drawn from the shock (to some) nomination that at first sight seems to indicate that there is a massive divide between two groups of not a massive difference in size, with nothing in common and plenty dividing them?

Or is it just a freak result, signifying nothing?
Take it away Herc.;)
 
sinnikal said:
So what do you think the selection of Zohran Mamdani as the democrat canditate for Mayor of NYC says about the diametrically opposed political choices on offer come election time.
Is there any lesson to be drawn from the shock (to some) nomination that at first sight seems to indicate that there is a massive divide between two groups of not a massive difference in size, with nothing in common and plenty dividing them?

Or is it just a freak result, signifying nothing?
Take it away Herc.;)
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I think many people are desperate and are willing to believe someone telling them things that sound magical but in reality can never happen.
 
Hercules56 said:
Very much agreed. Momdani, Mamdani, Momdanee, all sound the same. All are simply the Anglaphide version of a non-English name.

The important thing is SAYING it right.

And I say "Mom-DAH-knee", which is very accurate. Even my emphasis on the middle syllable is accurate.
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As someone with a difficult foreign name, I don't think saying it right is important either. Saying my name with the proper inflection and enunciation is extremely difficult for most native English speakers. Even bastardizing the pronunciation to more closely approximate something "naturalistic" for English speakers still leaves many tongue-tied. I have zero interest in making that a problem for anyone I interact with.

Anyway, yeah. Let's get back to more important matters: Like how he thinks the NYPD can enforce ICC warrants, and the mayor of New York has arrest authority.
 
sinnikal said:
You don't think that there could be a growing number who are deeply concerned about the current direction of US government and are registering their discontent in one of the few political ways they can?
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No I think this is more about Zohran promising to freeze everyone's rent and other magical things that in reality cannot happen.
 
theprestige said:
As someone with a difficult foreign name, I don't think saying it right is important either. Saying my name with the proper inflection and enunciation is extremely difficult for most native English speakers. Even bastardizing the pronunciation to more closely approximate something "naturalistic" for English speakers still leaves many tongue-tied. I have zero interest in making that a problem for anyone I interact with.

Anyway, yeah. Let's get back to more important matters: Like how he thinks the NYPD can enforce ICC warrants, and the mayor of New York has arrest authority.
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I disagree, I think when people have informed you of the proper pronunciation, you should attempt to pronounce it correctly.

I actually used to pronounce it kam-ALA , till my wife insisted that I really try hard to pronounce it KAM-ala I didn't really see the difference, but Im a good husband. :)
 
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sinnikal said:
You don't think that there could be a growing number who are deeply concerned about the current direction of US government and are registering their discontent in one of the few political ways they can?
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Nah, that's only allowed when it brings us a Trump. The other side of the spectrum must select only perfect angels, and do so for perfect reasons. Any flaw in the candidate or any flaw in the reason behind voting for them renders them so tainted it would be better to not vote at all, and let the other side win.
 
Hercules56 said:
I disagree, I think when people have informed you of the proper pronunciation, you should attempt to pronounce it correctly.
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If I held people to that standard, it would be awkward and embarrassing for both of us. I have no interest in making people uncomfortable around me because they're worried I'll hold a grudge if they don't get my name correctly enough.

Anyway, let's get back to the candidacy of Mint Milano, or whatever his name is.
 
theprestige said:
If I held people to that standard, it would be awkward and embarrassing for both of us. I have no interest in making people uncomfortable around me because they're worried I'll hold a grudge if they don't get my name correctly enough.

Anyway, let's get back to the candidacy ofMint Milano, or whatever his name is.
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LOL!!!
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The underlying claim here by anyone promoting BoxGate is that NO ONE ELSE has done anything similar or worse.
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Not really. That's a bit like claiming the underlying claim of an accusation of theft is that nobody else had stolen anything. Fairly silly accusation. The underlying claim is that checking the wrong box matters. I say know but I'm not sure what evidence I can bring to bear that would "prove" that.
 
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